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The M3E feels like a beta test build but here comes its successor.
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Johnnokomis
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Let me start by saying I am not one of those people who complain when a new drone comes out better than the one I own. We all know that when the Mini 4 is announced in a week or 2 the internet will be full of Mini 3 Pro owners whining about it. It's how progression works. What DJI is about to do with the Mavic 3 Enterprise and Mavic 3 Thermal feels so much different though. Sometime soon they're about to release this Matrice 3D that will be the nail in the M3E coffin and all hope of them finishing devolopment of it will be gone. The Mavic 3 was rushed out missing most of the expected features. It was able to gain them all within 6 or so months after release through firmware updates. The M3E will turn one year old in 12 days and so far we have gained what via firmware..? A badly implemented POI mode back in March?  Real-Time terrain follow before that? There's been some app changes and other small improvements but not the kind that we have become used to from a DJI drone. One year later there's still no active track, quick transfer, spotlight, video settings, white balance, AEB, frame rates, RC Plus compatibality, mastershots etc. This drone could have been great but I'm afraid it isn't far from being shadow banned by the same company who refused to finish it's development. This explains why updates have been few and far between. DJI's team seems to move on to the next product development before the current one is finished. The Phantom 4 Pro came out 5 years ago and I've heard surveyers say their company is going back to that platform instead of the M3E more times than they have praised it. This drone looks sweet and I'm not upset because it's on the way. I'm upset because DJI pulled the bait and switch on all of us.   
Anyone wanna speculate on what all kind of payloads with be made for this? 4 mounting holes, removable door, built in RTK leaving an open OSDK port to use.

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9-15 21:34
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It looks great, but I will need to see the real specs when it launches rather than speculation.  I have been let down quite a bit lately.  Not just gonna buy automagically.
9-16 02:30
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looks like it will have an improved mapping camera and the same thermal and zoom specs and hints the name dji matrice "3D" im excited to see what it has but i wont upgrade from my mavic 3t because im not big on mapping. Possibly it could have a mechanical shutter  
9-18 02:50
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djiuser_OEpotuwAFi8O Posted at 9-18 02:50
looks like it will have an improved mapping camera and the same thermal and zoom specs and hints the name dji matrice "3D" im excited to see what it has but i wont upgrade from my mavic 3t because im not big on mapping. Possibly it could have a mechanical shutter

I think a Matrice 3 name was inevitable. First Matrice 300, then a Matrice 30 and now a Matrice 3. The D could be a sign that it'll come in a few variants. I think a mechanical shutter like the M3E is a given. It probably has the 4/3" main camera of the M3E with the thermal sensor of the M3T. It'll probably have a new Ocusync 4 Enterprise along with a new RC Pro 2 Enterprise. Making it incompatible with anything else, much like the M3E/M3T are. It's hard to get a sense of scale from the available photos. I can't help but wonder what the M3E would be like right now if the R&D behind this future drone would have instead been put towards finishing the current "flagship". I mean they've developed a totally new product line faster than we can have white balance control.  

Edit - This is all speculation. DJI is hard to predict because what they tend to release/develop never makes sense.
9-18 15:21
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Johnnokomis Posted at 9-18 15:21
I think a Matrice 3 name was inevitable. First Matrice 300, then a Matrice 30 and now a Matrice 3. The D could be a sign that it'll come in a few variants. I think a mechanical shutter like the M3E is a given. It probably has the 4/3" main camera of the M3E with the thermal sensor of the M3T. It'll probably have a new Ocusync 4 Enterprise along with a new RC Pro 2 Enterprise. Making it incompatible with anything else, much like the M3E/M3T are. It's hard to get a sense of scale from the available photos. I can't help but wonder what the M3E would be like right now if the R&D behind this future drone would have instead been put towards finishing the current "flagship". I mean they've developed a totally new product line faster than we can have white balance control.  

Edit - This is all speculation. DJI is hard to predict because what they tend to release/develop never makes sense.

All good points, but I appreciate the insights and will keep my eye on this one.  If they can round out some features, this could be the drone I am looking for.  : )
9-19 18:39
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TonyPHX Posted at 9-19 18:39
All good points, but I appreciate the insights and will keep my eye on this one.  If they can round out some features, this could be the drone I am looking for.  : )

The roadmap to a successful product launch and top selling drone is already at their fingertips. Take all of our feature requests, complaints and ideas that are well documented here on M3E and put it in this Matrice 3. If they'll listen to their customers they'll have a hard time manufacturing enough to keep in stock. This is asking a lot from DJI though. They hear us customers fine. The problem is they don't listen.
9-19 19:43
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Johnnokomis Posted at 9-18 15:21
I think a Matrice 3 name was inevitable. First Matrice 300, then a Matrice 30 and now a Matrice 3. The D could be a sign that it'll come in a few variants. I think a mechanical shutter like the M3E is a given. It probably has the 4/3" main camera of the M3E with the thermal sensor of the M3T. It'll probably have a new Ocusync 4 Enterprise along with a new RC Pro 2 Enterprise. Making it incompatible with anything else, much like the M3E/M3T are. It's hard to get a sense of scale from the available photos. I can't help but wonder what the M3E would be like right now if the R&D behind this future drone would have instead been put towards finishing the current "flagship". I mean they've developed a totally new product line faster than we can have white balance control.  

Edit - This is all speculation. DJI is hard to predict because what they tend to release/develop never makes sense.

i see this as a possibility but on the picture the drone having a 4/3rd sensor is unlikely to me it looks like an improved wide sensor
9-24 06:25
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I personally hear what you are saying but I have to ask, why did you buy the Mavic 3E if it didn't fit your needs at launch? I've never understood the complaint that "______ company didn't develop the product I purchased into the device that I need...". Why not just purchase the drone that fits your needs in the first place? All the complaints about the M3E are addressed by other drones on the market from DJI and other manufacturers.

DJI doesn't operate in a vacuum, there are other manufacturers in this space. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that the M3E performs all of the functions that were promised at launch, correct? Now the complaint is that it doesn't perform functions that weren't promised? It's also humorous that you all are complaining that you'll never get those features because a new drone is coming out... Yet that's rarely been the case with DJI. I mean, they just released a huge update for the Mavic 3 consumer line, that no one was expecting BTW. They've also updated the Mini 3 Pro, even though the Mini 4 Pro launches tomorrow. The Matrice 3D will fit a certain use case and buyer, just like the Mavic 3E, Mavic 3T, Matrice 30 and Matrice 300 do. Purchase the drone that fits your needs, from DJI or other manufacturers and go make your money! Put the FOMO away, it's a waste of precious time and energy.
9-24 09:02
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Lon Denard Posted at 9-24 09:02
I personally hear what you are saying but I have to ask, why did you buy the Mavic 3E if it didn't fit your needs at launch? I've never understood the complaint that "______ company didn't develop the product I purchased into the device that I need...". Why not just purchase the drone that fits your needs in the first place? All the complaints about the M3E are addressed by other drones on the market from DJI and other manufacturers.

DJI doesn't operate in a vacuum, there are other manufacturers in this space. Correct me if I am wrong but I believe that the M3E performs all of the functions that were promised at launch, correct? Now the complaint is that it doesn't perform functions that weren't promised? It's also humorous that you all are complaining that you'll never get those features because a new drone is coming out... Yet that's rarely been the case with DJI. I mean, they just released a huge update for the Mavic 3 consumer line, that no one was expecting BTW. They've also updated the Mini 3 Pro, even though the Mini 4 Pro launches tomorrow. The Matrice 3D will fit a certain use case and buyer, just like the Mavic 3E, Mavic 3T, Matrice 30 and Matrice 300 do. Purchase the drone that fits your needs, from DJI or other manufacturers and go make your money! Put the FOMO away, it's a waste of precious time and energy.

Most of the missing functions on the M3E aren't something that can be found on a spec sheet. Like missing white balance control, missing flight modes, missing basic features like Quick Transfer that are standard on all other modern DJI's. One would understandably assume that it would be available since it's standard on cheaper, non-professional drones. One thing on the spec sheet that for example is what it states about the RC Pro Enterprise. Use with any other drone is has never even been hinted towards even though it still states this today.. RCProEnterprise.jpg


To continue, I'll show articles widely available on the internet today. Even though not directly from DJI, these are DJI Enterprise dealers who are authoroized resellers of the M3E saying these completely incorrect things about the M3E. I have highlighted the lies for easy visuals. Source - https://www.dronedubai.ae/blog/dji-mavic-3-enterprise-revolutionizing-industries-with-advanced-technology/
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More examples from different DJI Dealers. Source - https://ts2.space/en/dji-mavic-3e-a-comprehensive-review-of-the-drone/


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So are we still so wrong when one would assume these features/flight modes would be present in the M3E? After all, approved DJI resellers are quoted as saying so. Along with a link nearby where they will gladly sell you an M3E. Only to find out once you recieve it that all these modes are missing.


"Purchase the drone that fits your needs" you say. The problem is DJI no longer makes one and that has been done intentionally. I need RTK positioning, an available SDK and the standard photo and video camera settings. These 3 things cannot be found in a drone from DJI's current offerings unless you go for an Inspire 3 which is not realistic for most people.





9-24 10:06
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