Dear guys...
Why isn't there a mapping application for Mavic 3 Pro yet?
Thank you.

Because DJI think that if you want to do mapping, you should buy another drone (that costs twice as much).

Hi, djiuser_lqlT8OCbjMVH. Thank you for reaching out. For consumer drones, there is no mapping/photogrammetry function. The reason for this is that the surveying and mapping function has high requirements for the aircraft’s positioning system and camera lens. Currently, DJI Consumer drones cannot support such a professional function. If you need professional mapping requirements, recommend that they purchase a DJI Enterprise product (such as Matrice 300 RTK/Phantom 4 RTK). Thank you for your kind understanding.. Have a safe flight always!

DJI Gamora Posted at 9-22 19:38
Hi, djiuser_lqlT8OCbjMVH. Thank you for reaching out. For consumer drones, there is no mapping/photogrammetry function. The reason for this is that the surveying and mapping function has high requirements for the aircraft’s positioning system and camera lens. Currently, DJI Consumer drones cannot support such a professional function. If you need professional mapping requirements, recommend that they purchase a DJI Enterprise product (such as Matrice 300 RTK/Phantom 4 RTK). Thank you for your kind understanding.. Have a safe flight always!

With a statement like what you just made you knew someone was bound to call you out. So here it comes..

No, just no. If mapping requires high positioning systems then why is the Mavic 3 Enterprise RTK module an optional accessory? It maps/models perfectly fine without RTK/PPK corrections applied. For years DJI drones with only navigation grade GNSS and electronic shutters have mapped perfectly fine. The Mini 3 Pro still does since it has an SDK available. Your mapping recommendations are pretty ridiculous. Maybe people don't need professional mapping, what if they just need mapping? The two best suggestions from you are between an $18K setup and a P4 that is no longer sold. It has actually been illegal for DJI to sell for over a year now.

OP - Don't believe this D.J.lie from Gamora. We all know the real reason behind the SDK being oddly missing from the Mavic 3's. It's all about the money and DJI is trying to milk us for all they can.

Labroides Posted at 9-22 04:31
Because DJI think that if you want to do mapping, you should buy another drone (that costs twice as much).

Thank you so much

DJI Gamora Posted at 9-22 19:38
Hi, djiuser_lqlT8OCbjMVH. Thank you for reaching out. For consumer drones, there is no mapping/photogrammetry function. The reason for this is that the surveying and mapping function has high requirements for the aircraft’s positioning system and camera lens. Currently, DJI Consumer drones cannot support such a professional function. If you need professional mapping requirements, recommend that they purchase a DJI Enterprise product (such as Matrice 300 RTK/Phantom 4 RTK). Thank you for your kind understanding.. Have a safe flight always!

Currently, DJI Consumer drones cannot support such a professional function. If you need professional mapping requirements, ecommend that they purchase a DJI Enterprise product
That's just nonsense.

Thankyou for your kind understanding.
Having been involved in drone mapping before DJI released Enterprise models, I have a good understanding of what's actually involved and it's not what you said above.

Long before RTK/PPK GPS was available for drones, the Phantom 4 pro and Mavic 2 were the drones that professionals used for mapping.
The Mavic 3 pro would also be excellent if only DJI would allow it.
But DJI don't want users to map unless they buy your unnecessarily overpriced Enterprise models.
And for some bizarre reason, those overpriced enterprise models aren't anywhere near as useful for general photography or video!!

DJI policy is acting against the wishes of their customers.

DJI Gamora Posted at 9-22 19:38
Hi, djiuser_lqlT8OCbjMVH. Thank you for reaching out. For consumer drones, there is no mapping/photogrammetry function. The reason for this is that the surveying and mapping function has high requirements for the aircraft’s positioning system and camera lens. Currently, DJI Consumer drones cannot support such a professional function. If you need professional mapping requirements, recommend that they purchase a DJI Enterprise product (such as Matrice 300 RTK/Phantom 4 RTK). Thank you for your kind understanding.. Have a safe flight always!

So mini 3 pro is not consumer? As far as I know it has sdk support so it can be used for mapping and photogrammetry.  

These admins are clueless about this subject and are just piecing together word salads.


surveying and mapping function has high requirements for the aircraft’s positioning system - Totally false. You can strip out ALL positioning data from a group of images and still create a map with high relative accuracy. As long as you have proper overlap in the images. It's the same concept as stitching together a panorama photo and consumer drones handle this with ease. Nobody is buying this sorry explanation from DJI.

Hi, everyone. We appreciate your perspective and feedback. Consumer drones are often designed for recreational use and may lack the precision and specialized sensors required for detailed mapping and surveying.

The recommendation to consider DJI Enterprise products like the Matrice 300 RTK or Phantom 4 RTK was because Enterprise-grade drones are typically equipped with more advanced features, including precise positioning systems like Real-Time Kinematic (RTK) and specialized cameras with better optics for mapping and surveying applications. These drones are better suited for tasks that require high-accuracy data collection.

For individuals or organizations with professional mapping and surveying needs, investing in an enterprise-grade drone with the necessary capabilities is a sensible choice to ensure accurate and reliable results.

Thank you for sharing your insights and perspective on this matter. Your firsthand experience is valuable for anyone considering drone mapping and for the broader drone community. We will also take them as suggestions and forward them to our relevant team. Thank you for your continued support.

DJI Gamora Posted at 9-28 19:56
Hi, everyone. We appreciate your perspective and feedback. Consumer drones are often designed for recreational use and may lack the precision and specialized sensors required for detailed mapping and surveying.

The recommendation to consider DJI Enterprise products like the Matrice 300 RTK or Phantom 4 RTK was because Enterprise-grade drones are typically equipped with more advanced features, including precise positioning systems like Real-Time Kinematic (RTK) and specialized cameras with better optics for mapping and surveying applications. These drones are better suited for tasks that require high-accuracy data collection.

Thank you for sharing your insights and perspective on this matter. Your firsthand experience is valuable for anyone considering drone mapping and for the broader drone community.
However DJI has no interest at all in what you have to offer,
DJI has made the conscious choice to prevent users from using consumer drones for mapping and force anyone wanting to carry out mapping, to buy the overpriced enterprise models (that aren't capable of being used for regular photography or video as consumer models).

We will also take them as suggestions and forward them to our relevant team. Thank you for your continued support.
Give it a rest.
We've all heard this hundreds of times and nothing ever comes of it.
It would be better to just say nothing instead of insulting users again and again with this empty platitude.

DJI Gamora Posted at 9-28 19:56
Hi, everyone. We appreciate your perspective and feedback. Consumer drones are often designed for recreational use and may lack the precision and specialized sensors required for detailed mapping and surveying.

The recommendation to consider DJI Enterprise products like the Matrice 300 RTK or Phantom 4 RTK was because Enterprise-grade drones are typically equipped with more advanced features, including precise positioning systems like Real-Time Kinematic (RTK) and specialized cameras with better optics for mapping and surveying applications. These drones are better suited for tasks that require high-accuracy data collection.

thanks to the communication/marketing team for this wonderful reading.

johnethan Posted at 2-14 15:38
Suppose you are going to do 3D mapping. In that case, I recommend using april tags VR markers.

Can you say more?  What will VR markers bring to mapping?

There is no option to use your M3P for mapping.  DJI did not, and will not, release an SDK for the M3P, which they consider a consumer device, and as a consequence, 3rd party software developers like Drone Deploy cannot include M3P on their mapping software development roadmap.

Depending on your mapping requirements, you can consider the DJI Phantom 4 Pro v2, which is still available on the secondary market, is still relevant as a simple mapping platform, and is Remote ID capable.  Your only other DJI option is to go with the DJI Enterprise series aircraft.

As for me, not unlike many other operators on this forum, I had to purchase an M3E RTK for serious mapping operations, and use my M3P for general imaging and inspection work.

Of course, this is just the way DJI Marketing wanted it.

Fly Safe.

The admin said:

The reason for this is that the surveying and mapping function has high requirements for the aircraft’s positioning system and camera lens. Currently, DJI Consumer drones cannot support such a professional function.

LOL

247Ha mapped manually....8.8 cm of GSD and only 0.88meters of GPS Error with my MAVIC 3 ....I have an Emlid Reach for PPK so I don't need an enterprise drone....but....bussines are businnes..right DJI?

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fans696534c0 Posted at 6-27 06:46
The admin said:

The reason for this is that the surveying and mapping function has high requirements for the aircraft’s positioning system and camera lens. Currently, DJI Consumer drones cannot support such a professional function.

I was wondering whether PPK was possible with the Mavic 3 consumer version. How do you make the ppk corrections? Do you just use the image's exif data? Which Software do you use?

djiuser_21vazN53a4oJ Posted at 6-28 00:21
I was wondering whether PPK was possible with the Mavic 3 consumer version. How do you make the ppk corrections? Do you just use the image's exif data? Which Software do you use?

To start for both RTK and PPK you need one or two RTK/GNSS receivers like Emlid, where one acts as a base and the other as a rover. It cannot be done directly from the drone.
RTK AND PPK WITH EMLID
The difference between a consumer drone like the mavic 3 vs a mavic 3 Enterprise is that you can attach an RTK/GNSS receiver to the second one as an accessory, transforming the drone into a rover. If you add to that a receiver that acts as a base you would have the same result as doing everything separately (mavic 3 consumer drone + 2 RTK receivers)

Because there is a model called Mavic 3 Enterprise

So DJI please Answer? why you can do mapping with DJI Mini 3 Pro and NOT with a more robust pro line Mavic 3 Classis?

leomuni Posted at 7-3 06:24
To start for both RTK and PPK you need one or two RTK/GNSS receivers like Emlid, where one acts as a base and the other as a rover. It cannot be done directly from the drone.
RTK AND PPK WITH EMLID
The difference between a consumer drone like the mavic 3 vs a mavic 3 Enterprise is that you can attach an RTK/GNSS receiver to the second one as an accessory, transforming the drone into a rover. If you add to that a receiver that acts as a base you would have the same result as doing everything separately (mavic 3 consumer drone + 2 RTK receivers)

Thank you. Would that still work if instead of rover (RTK module) data I would use timestamps and coordinates from the image's EXIF data. And instead of a base station I would use NTRIP data to correct the image's position. Would the EXIF data be too inaccurate? Am I missing something?

AEROVISUALES Posted at 7-3 09:48
So DJI please Answer? why you can do mapping with DJI Mini 3 Pro and NOT with a more robust pro line Mavic 3 Classis?

because they didn't want to make a DJI Mini 3 Enterprise ..

djiuser_21vazN53a4oJ Posted at 7-5 03:14
Thank you. Would that still work if instead of rover (RTK module) data I would use timestamps and coordinates from the image's EXIF data. And instead of a base station I would use NTRIP data to correct the image's position. Would the EXIF data be too inaccurate? Am I missing something?

No that would not work at all. You need a lot more than just coordinates and a timestamp to PPK your images. The RTK module records a RINEX file which contains tracking of satellites individually as they are observed. With a photos coordinate in the metadata, there's no way to improve this geolocation since that's all you have to go off of. Also, NTRIP data is the same as a base station. You're just using a base station observation file that is being provided by your NTRIP service.

Johnnokomis Posted at 7-19 13:12
No that would not work at all. You need a lot more than just coordinates and a timestamp to PPK your images. The RTK module records a RINEX file which contains tracking of satellites individually as they are observed. With a photos coordinate in the metadata, there's no way to improve this geolocation since that's all you have to go off of. Also, NTRIP data is the same as a base station. You're just using a base station observation file that is being provided by your NTRIP service.

Ok, clear now. Thank you.

Labroides Posted at 2023-9-22 21:53
Currently, DJI Consumer drones cannot support such a professional function. If you need professional mapping requirements, ecommend that they purchase a DJI Enterprise product
That's just nonsense.

The enterprise series are for professionals for specific tasks.  You cant blame the M30t because it doesnt capture survey accuracy.  You must not understand that it was built for inspection, SAR, and investigation. It does those tasks well and to add its built in the same mold as a Mavic for quick launch but has redundancy built in and being IP rated. We have so many uses for ours and trying to get more time behind it.  Its the best "tool" out of all the sUAS's I have had over 15 years.  

fans6545ef2b Posted at 8-16 06:05
The enterprise series are for professionals for specific tasks.  You cant blame the M30t because it doesnt capture survey accuracy.  You must not understand that it was built for inspection, SAR, and investigation. It does those tasks well and to add its built in the same mold as a Mavic for quick launch but has redundancy built in and being IP rated. We have so many uses for ours and trying to get more time behind it.  Its the best "tool" out of all the sUAS's I have had over 15 years.

You must not understand that it was built for inspection, SAR, and investigation.
You didn't understand anything that I wrote in this thread (nearly a year ago).
And you have no idea about what I understand.

You cant blame the M30t because it doesnt capture survey accuracy.
???
You are the only one who has mentioned that model in this thread.