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Now that the Mini 4 Pro is out, do we know if the waypoint system is any good? and is it worth the money to by the M4P?
  

2023-9-25
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Dirty Bird Posted at 9-25 12:32
Looks identical to what is available to the Mavic 3 & Air 3.  I don't know what max speed it supports?  Ideally I would like to see 30 mph even it that means OA is disabled.  I have always used Litchi for creating Waypoint missions but the DJI system is similar.  You can either create missions manually using the map view in the Fly app, or you can fly the drone to the points & record them live.  I have always plotted my missions manually, but this involves RECON & test flights to get everything just right.  Recording the points by flying to them gets everything right the first time.  Altitude, heading, gimbal angle, zoom, all of these settings are captured for each waypoint.  DJI Waypoints also support POIs for dramatic flybys.  I will be testing out their Waypoint system soon.

Are you getting the M4P?
2023-9-25
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Dirty Bird Posted at 9-25 14:10
Ordering the Mini 4 Pro Flymore Plus package with Care Refresh Plus 2 Year as soon as the webpage goes from "Reserve Now" to "Order Now".

Can't resist the Waypoint support & the other features are icing on the cake!

I'll probably just wait till they release the mini 5 pro in the next year or so. until then the mini 3 pro is still a great bird and i'm super happy with it even though the M4P is nice
2023-9-25
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Look at minute 19:20 of this video on YouTube, about the waypoints on the Mini 4 Pro.

2023-9-25
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Hi there. Thank you for reaching out. The waypoints feature used by the DJI Air 3, DJI Mavic 3/Mavic 3 Cine/Mavic 3 Classic/Mavic 3 Pro is the same as the DJI Mini 4 Pro as it uses the same app, DJI Fly. For more information about the said feature, you may refer to the link below. Thank you for your valued support.

https://repair.dji.com/help/cont ... ;paperDocType=paper
2023-9-25
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Can anyone clarify whether the Waypoint mode allows full video recording (4k @ 100 FPS)  or Hyperlapse video only?  The Air 3 manual specifically says Hyperlapse and if the Mini 4 is the same - wouldn't that mean the waypoint mode isn't true video like Litchi?
2023-9-25
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DroneTraveler Posted at 9-25 18:21
Can anyone clarify whether the Waypoint mode allows full video recording (4k @ 100 FPS)  or Hyperlapse video only?  The Air 3 manual specifically says Hyperlapse and if the Mini 4 is the same - wouldn't that mean the waypoint mode isn't true video like Litchi?

I believe  they added true waypoints. ask dirty bird. he'll know.
2023-9-25
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I watched some videos on YouTube of people who purchased the Mini 4 Pro. Then I see that they create the waypoint on the spot on the controller. I don't know how it works on DJI's more expensive models. But you can also use the Litchi Beta app to create a Waypoint on the PC with the Mini 3 pro. It would be nice if this was also possible with DJI Mini 4 pro software from DJI itself
2023-9-27
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Philipjgr Posted at 9-27 06:14
I watched some videos on YouTube of people who purchased the Mini 4 Pro. Then I see that they create the waypoint on the spot on the controller. I don't know how it works on DJI's more expensive models. But you can also use the Litchi Beta app to create a Waypoint on the PC with the Mini 3 pro. It would be nice if this was also possible with DJI Mini 4 pro software from DJI itself

Then I see that they create the waypoint on the spot on the controller. I don't know how it works on DJI's more expensive models

I think that is true, that the waypoints can be made on the remote.
2023-9-27
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Dirty Bird Posted at 9-27 18:34
I don't know if it allows 4K @ 100 as that is intended for slow motion?  It may but all the other resolution & frame rates should be supported.

Okay, when you get yours, would you (or anyone else) mind sharing a definitive answer on which framerates/resolutions are supported?  Basically is it true video or Hyperlapse.  Thank you.
2023-9-28
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Yippie, yes I bought the Mini 4 Pro. Not flown yet, no good weather here yet. Started with waypoint and maps. What is not going well, or am I doing wrong? With profile/offline maps I select an area using the WiFi. When I have downloaded and opened the area, the area is much smaller.
2023-10-3
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Only the one circled in red stores the RC maps
2023-10-3
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My 1st flight with the Mini 4 pro and also with waypoints. There was a strong wind.  I just have to try out whether you have to indicate recording at every waypoint, or only when you want to stop recording. What is a shame, as far as I have experienced, is that you cannot use the gimbal with up and down during the waypoint flight.


2023-10-5
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Philip J Posted at 10-5 09:05
My 1st flight with the Mini 4 pro and also with waypoints. There was a strong wind.  I just have to try out whether you have to indicate recording at every waypoint, or only when you want to stop recording. What is a shame, as far as I have experienced, is that you cannot use the gimbal with up and down during the waypoint flight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc67fJ9kvvk&t=130s

that's pretty neat.
2023-10-5
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Philip J Posted at 10-5 09:05
My 1st flight with the Mini 4 pro and also with waypoints. There was a strong wind.  I just have to try out whether you have to indicate recording at every waypoint, or only when you want to stop recording. What is a shame, as far as I have experienced, is that you cannot use the gimbal with up and down during the waypoint flight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc67fJ9kvvk&t=130s

All you need do is set multiple POIs with different altitudes. Set different waypoints to aim at the various waypoints. You just need to be mindful of the built-in curve, that happens with altitude change also.
2023-10-5
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Mobilehomer Posted at 10-5 10:38
All you need do is set multiple POIs with different altitudes. Set different waypoints to aim at the various waypoints. You just need to be mindful of the built-in curve, that happens with altitude change also.

With the Litchi app you can also point the camera downwards during flight. This was nice when you saw something on the screen to film from above. You do not see this yet while creating waypoints. As far as I have experienced on my 1st flight, the wheel of the lens up and down does not work. Of course, during normal flights. Am I doing something wrong or is the camera stuck during the waypoint flight? Otherwise it would be nice to be able to do it in the next update.
2023-10-7
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Philip J Posted at 10-7 00:49
With the Litchi app you can also point the camera downwards during flight. This was nice when you saw something on the screen to film from above. You do not see this yet while creating waypoints. As far as I have experienced on my 1st flight, the wheel of the lens up and down does not work. Of course, during normal flights. Am I doing something wrong or is the camera stuck during the waypoint flight? Otherwise it would be nice to be able to do it in the next update.

If you are setting the waypoints as you set up the mission, you can adjust the gimbal however you want it.
2023-10-7
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Mobilehomer Posted at 10-7 05:50
If you are setting the waypoints as you set up the mission, you can adjust the gimbal however you want it.

Ok thanks, but what I actually want is to create the mission at home and have the option to change the gimbal down or up while performing the flight. I understand from this that this is not possible, only if you create a mission on the spot.
2023-10-7
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I have a saved waypoint mission on my controller. I want to redo the waypoint mission every certain time (autumn-winter-summer). Now there is a chance that I want/need to reset the DJI Mini 4 pro. I have now secured a KMZ file on my PC. I could put it back later after a reset. I also tried to open the KMZ file in Google Earth, on the PC and on my Android phone. These give an error message. Is DJI's KMZ different?
Or do I want something that is not possible
2023-10-19
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Dirty Bird Posted at 10-19 02:27
The file may be encrypted.

When I put the file back 1 to 1 after a reset controller. Would I then be able to continue my waypoint mission again? I don't want to lose my waypoint mission by trying it out. Is it possible to make a complete backup of the controller to the PC? I can't find this anywhere or overlooked.
2023-10-19
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I’m having issues with my Mini 4 Pro and the Waypoint Hyperlapse feature. I’m trying to do a day to night transition and when I went to do my first attempt during the day everything went smoothly
, the hyperlapse looked amazing, but when I went to repeat the saved route at night, the gimbal was swerving left to right the entire time.
2023-10-20
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Dirty Bird Posted at 10-21 03:05
I discovered if you set aircraft heading & gimbal tilt to MANUAL, then you can control the aircraft yaw & camera tilt with the RC as the bird executes the Waypoint mission.  Basically a programmable cablecam in the sky.

I like that idea, what about during RTH like one could with previous models? I suppose because of the sensors its still not possible?
2023-10-21
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djiuser_HQjBLv4gZD7Z Posted at 10-20 21:35
I’m having issues with my Mini 4 Pro and the Waypoint Hyperlapse feature. I’m trying to do a day to night transition and when I went to do my first attempt during the day everything went smoothly
, the hyperlapse looked amazing, but when I went to repeat the saved route at night, the gimbal was swerving left to right the entire time.

I don't know, as I haven't done any of those yet. ask dirtybird. he will probably know
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Dirty Bird Posted at 10-21 03:32
I don't think it will work during RTH because OA is always active during OA (even if set to OFF) & OA wants the camera facing forwards.  Interesting though because the Mini 4 Pro has 360° OA so technically it should function regardless of aircraft orientation.

Yeah, it is a shame as it was a good feature even if it was accidental.
2023-10-21
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Does anyone know if this can work or have experience with it? I returned my previous Mini 4 pro. I now have a new Mini 4 pro. On the previous one I had saved a waypoint, the woods still with leaves, so I could film it again via waypoint later in the fall. I then saved the KMZ files on my PC. I have now put them back on the new controller via my PC. But when I open waypoints I don't see a map or KMZ.
2023-11-5
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Philip J Posted at 11-5 08:24
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Does anyone know if this can work or have experience with it? I returned my previous Mini 4 pro. I now have a new Mini 4 pro. On the previous one I had saved a waypoint, the woods still with leaves, so I could film it again via waypoint later in the fall. I then saved the KMZ files on my PC. I have now put them back on the new controller via my PC. But when I open waypoints I don't see a map or KMZ.

Hi,

don`t understand your post.

afaik the waypoint kmz files are on the RC2, not on your old or new drone.
so why copy to your pc and back again ?

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JJB* Posted at 11-5 11:29
Hi,

don`t understand your post.

With my returned mini 4 pro including the controller, I made a waypoint recording and saved it on the controller. When this had to be returned, I connected the controller to my PC to copy the folder with waypoints on the internal memory. Now I have copied it into the waypoints folder of the new controller. You see them there, but the controller does not see them when I go to the waypoint icon on the controller screen.
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Philip J Posted at 11-5 11:55
With my returned mini 4 pro including the controller, I made a waypoint recording and saved it on the controller. When this had to be returned, I connected the controller to my PC to copy the folder with waypoints on the internal memory. Now I have copied it into the waypoints folder of the new controller. You see them there, but the controller does not see them when I go to the waypoint icon on the controller screen.

oke,

more related files on the RC2 for waypoint logs....

check this
\\DJI RC 2\Internal shared storage\Android\data\dji.go.v5\files\LOG\CACHE\Waypoint

i made a waypoint file today and in this folder i find log file to this waypoint file....

try to make new waypoint file, check this folder and detele the log. If file doesnt show up on your screen.....

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2023-11-5
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I'll look further in the files tomorrow, I thought I was in the right place. A KTM file must be the same on both controllers.
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I contacted the DJI chat service, I received this answer.
Strange that this is not possible, suppose your controller is broken or lost. Have you lost everything? It was indicated that a backup function might become possible with an update. Then I'll just recreate the waypoint route and fly. Now start with bare trees, winter and then spring. the other way around :-)

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Ok, thanks, I hadn't found that out yet. As soon as the weather here is better I will definitely try this. A new Mini 4 pro since this week. It is nice if you can control the camera tilt yourself during the flight. It would also be nice, just like with Litchi, that you could plan the route on your PC, laptop or tablet. A little more space than the small control screen.Your waypoints are also saved on your PC or tablet
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I am sorry for bumping an old thread but i have a question:

I can create a waypoint flight mission just with the controller from the comfort of my house and then go fly the mission to record video just fine.

However, the same waypoint mission cannot be used as a hyperlapse mission. It seems like different missions must be created for hyperlapse and video. Which I dont understand to be honest.

My question is, is there a way to create a hyperlapse waypoint mission from the comfort of my house (like it can be done with video mission) or does it mean that for hyperlapse missions you can only do them with the drone during flight? Thanks!
2023-12-29
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Hi! Does anyone know how to export waypoints from a flight with the intention of using them on another drone (even if it is the same Mini 4 Pro model)?

Hola! Alguien sabe cómo exportar los waypoints de un vuelo con la intención de utilizarlos en otro dron (aunque sea el mismo modelo Mini 4 Pro)?
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Juan70 Posted at 7-28 11:25
Hi! Does anyone know how to export waypoints from a flight with the intention of using them on another drone (even if it is the same Mini 4 Pro model)?

Hola! Alguien sabe cómo exportar los waypoints de un vuelo con la intención de utilizarlos en otro dron (aunque sea el mismo modelo Mini 4 Pro)?

Hi there, thank you for reaching out. Regrettably,  there's currently no direct method to export waypoints from one DJI drone and import them into another, even if they're the same model. However, if you have a detailed flight map or recorded video, you can manually replot the waypoints on the new drone's flight planning app.

Thank you for your understanding and support!
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DJI Natalia Posted at 7-28 23:21
Hi there, thank you for reaching out. Regrettably,  there's currently no direct method to export waypoints from one DJI drone and import them into another, even if they're the same model. However, if you have a detailed flight map or recorded video, you can manually replot the waypoints on the new drone's flight planning app.

Thank you for your understanding and support!

I think you CAN use multiple drones with same waypoints - even using different models (Mini 4P, Air 3) - but you have to use same controller.

So you cannot transfer/copy waypoints to different controller, but you can use different drones with same controller.
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bJako Posted at 7-29 03:30
I think you CAN use multiple drones with same waypoints - even using different models (Mini 4P, Air 3) - but you have to use same controller.

So you cannot transfer/copy waypoints to different controller, but you can use different drones with same controller.

Hi there, thank you for the above response. You're right however, kindly take note that not all remote controller can be used with DJI mini 4 Pro as it's only compatible with DJI RC2 and DJI RC-N2.

Thank you for the contribution and we truly appreciate it. Keep us posted always!
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DJI Natalia Posted at 7-29 03:45
Hi there, thank you for the above response. You're right however, kindly take note that not all remote controller can be used with DJI mini 4 Pro as it's only compatible with DJI RC2 and DJI RC-N2.

Thank you for the contribution and we truly appreciate it. Keep us posted always!

Many thanks to both of you. I have the DJI RC2, I'm going to give it a try. I just started recording a demolition that will last 5 years and I don't know if my drone will live that long. How do I export the waypoints?
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bJako Posted at 7-29 03:30
I think you CAN use multiple drones with same waypoints - even using different models (Mini 4P, Air 3) - but you have to use same controller.

So you cannot transfer/copy waypoints to different controller, but you can use different drones with same controller.

Sure, I understand, then there is no point in exporting the waypoints.
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Juan70 Posted at 7-29 07:36
Many thanks to both of you. I have the DJI RC2, I'm going to give it a try. I just started recording a demolition that will last 5 years and I don't know if my drone will live that long. How do I export the waypoints?

Most welcome ! Aside from that, regarding your inquiry on how to export waypoints, as I mentioned in reply#34, currently, waypoint flight missions cannot be exported. However, you may save the routes by tapping the list icon on the left side of the Waypoint operation panel to enter the route task list, and manually save the current route. I hope this helps with your inquiry. Thank you and have a good day !
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DJI Natalia Posted at 7-29 13:17
Most welcome ! Aside from that, regarding your inquiry on how to export waypoints, as I mentioned in reply#34, currently, waypoint flight missions cannot be exported. However, you may save the routes by tapping the list icon on the left side of the Waypoint operation panel to enter the route task list, and manually save the current route. I hope this helps with your inquiry. Thank you and have a good day !

You mean to Save as - WP version but to same controller again? so now we have tho identical WP routes in controller but still we cannot export them?
How can this help OP?  
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