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Things to remember. OA4 has slightly bigger sensor and bigger pixels than Pocket 2. But remember

1. OA4 is always upscaling image. It is not native full read out 4k from sensor. Pocket 1/2/3 without zooming is full read from 4k sensor.
2. Pocket 2 aperture is 1.8 and Pocket 1 aperture is 2.0. OA4 aperture is 2.8. Pocket 1 and 2 gains a lot more light to the sensor than OA4.
3. Pocket 1/2/3 use lens focusing. OA4 is fixed lens and focus.
4. OA4 needs faster like 1/200 shutter speed to make EIS work. Pocket 1/2/3 can use slower shutter speed like 1/50 even in the dark. So Pocket 1/2/3 can expose sensor longer leading to that Pockets are again gaining more light than OA4.
5. Yes OA4 has a bit deeper dynamic range but that only matter if you are interested of it.
6. OA4 has bigger pixel size but that cannot alone over run at all aperture, shutter speed, upscaling and focusing system.

Just to remember when comparing these to different cameras. Even if the sensor size is the same the image is generated using all these important values and process.

Yes I'm sad P3 does not have removable battery. With my OA4 it is super important. I also hope P3 has Low mpx and Large pixel size.
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Aavalaakso Posted at 10-14 09:33
Things to remember. OA4 has slightly bigger sensor and bigger pixels than Pocket 2. But remember

1. OA4 is always upscaling image. It is not native full read out 4k from sensor. Pocket 1/2/3 without zooming is full read from 4k sensor.

Have you seen the spec leak - https://ag4tech.com/dji-osmo-pocket-3/
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Yes. Like I said hope P3 has Low mpx and Large pixel size. I don't care about sensor size it is not important. Pixel size and others matter.
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Aavalaakso Posted at 10-10 02:09
1 inch brings only problems. Like focus issues because it has more depth of field. If focus is not correct then image is blurred. Another thing is it eats more battery and generates more heat. And it brings more easier Rolling Shutter problem..

I prefer 12 mpx with huge pixel size to gain more light. It is pixel size that gains light not sensor size. Maybe same like OA4 has but it would be a lot better because of the 1.8 aperture and full sensor reading lenght without crop and upscale like OA4 is doing.

I have a little surprise for you. Bigger pixels need more space and therefore bigger sensor ;-)
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JustName Posted at 10-14 14:26
I have a little surprise for you. Bigger pixels need more space and therefore bigger sensor ;-)

That totally depends of how many megapixels in total. They did it right with OA4. Low resolution with big pixels.
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Aavalaakso Posted at 10-14 10:03
Yes. Like I said hope P3 has Low mpx and Large pixel size. I don't care about sensor size it is not important. Pixel size and others matter.

I think it depends on what you compare with this,   better than the P2 most definitely,   up there with a Sony A7 not so much.
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DAFlys Posted at 10-14 21:57
I think it depends on what you compare with this,   better than the P2 most definitely,   up there with a Sony A7 not so much.

I compare Pocket vs Action and I often see how people are talking totally nonsense things about sensors. It also depends is camera made for video or photos. Action vs action then yes OA4 is super great but Action vs Pocket Oa4 cannot over run other values like aperture no matter what sensor.
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2. Yes Pocket 2 have bigger aperture f/2.0 vs f/2.8 on OA4, but you have to take in factor that Pocket 2 have almost 50% of sensor size so you have to calculate for that. So it will also get less light than f/2.0.
Another thing is the true light gathering, that is only measured in T-stop and that depend on the lens. So since OA4 have a high quality lens it could be that it gather in total with theese factors, same or more light than Pocket 2.
This is physics.

Also since OA4 have less MP + bigger pixels, the quality of light is better.

So if anyone have both P2 and OA4, test it out with same settings in low light.
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5. Dynamic range have a lot to say about the quality of footage captured. I'm not talking about 10 vs 8 bit here, but with in general better dynamic range it will be able to capture better high-lights and low-lights with more data for each. And when 10 bit vs 8 bit it is even more colors captured also in those sceneries.
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1-Inch CMOS & 4K/120fps Recording
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Mini Tripod
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Question is... what mega pixel? what aperture lens?
(That's huge lens opening compared to OP2)
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johansenfoto Posted at 10-15 02:14
2. Yes Pocket 2 have bigger aperture f/2.0 vs f/2.8 on OA4, but you have to take in factor that Pocket 2 have almost 50% of sensor size so you have to calculate for that. So it will also get less light than f/2.0.
Another thing is the true light gathering, that is only measured in T-stop and that depend on the lens. So since OA4 have a high quality lens it could be that it gather in total with theese factors, same or more light than Pocket 2.
This is physics.
Yes I have all of these cameras. Pocket 2 has clearly best Image quality but oa4 is close.

The upscaling is huge on oa4 and P2 is very sharp when focusing correctly. P2 is 1.8 not 2.0. Image gets benefit also from narrow fov. Etc..
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OA4 vs Pocket 2 vs a6700 at night (In Japanese but easy to follow). Pocket 2 easily beats OA4 in really low light. Actually, I still carry it with me when I know I will have to deal with really "low light".
Another missing spec of Pocket 3: Price. Going to be big too!

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Aavalaakso Posted at 10-15 04:48
Yes I have all of these cameras. Pocket 2 has clearly best Image quality but oa4 is close.

The upscaling is huge on oa4 and P2 is very sharp when focusing correctly. P2 is 1.8 not 2.0. Image gets benefit also from narrow fov. Etc..

I had Pocket 2 and never remembered it to be a low light king, but I just checked that video Yaman posted and it looks a bit too good

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johansenfoto Posted at 10-15 05:53
I had Pocket 2 and never remembered it to be a low light king, but I just checked that video Yaman posted and it looks a bit too good

Not gonna say "Like I said"

I only tell what I tested by myself. I use these cameras nearly daily here in dark and snowy.

I have also Sony AX53 from 2015 and it is nearly the same with Pocket 2. It has 1/2.5 Stacked Sensor and super sharp.

Anyways what ever Pocket 3 will be I'm gonna buy it. It will be better than Pocket 2
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Aavalaakso Posted at 10-15 09:17
Not gonna say "Like I said"

I only tell what I tested by myself. I use these cameras nearly daily here in dark and snowy.

Hehe it's ok just say it
I did test Pocket 2 against GP10 last year but couldn't find the footage, think I deleted it all.
But gopro was terrible in comparsion.
Hehe you should tried it up here in the far north of Norway, here even GP10 did shutdown in summer last years since it was too cold with enduro battery
And that's why I love DJI products in general, they can handle the cold + good in our ISO 800 daylight in December.

Pocket 3 will be amazing, only wish I needed it since it will be a beast.
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johansenfoto Posted at 10-15 09:35
Hehe it's ok just say it
I did test Pocket 2 against GP10 last year but couldn't find the footage, think I deleted it all.
But gopro was terrible in comparsion.

That area is close enough Other side of the border.

That is true. I don't use gopro products anymore. No need to tell more about it.
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Night/low light shoots with Pocket 2 earlier this year whilke I was in Japan.






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Tide Posted at 10-15 04:34
Mini Tripod
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Mini Tripod seems a bit bulky compared to the one on the P2. I'll probably just carry that instead.
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Wiz33 Posted at 10-15 12:00
Mini Tripod seems a bit bulky compared to the one on the P2. I'll probably just carry that instead.
It's probably intended as an extra grip.
Long screen of OP3 leaves a little space to hold over the buttons.

Wonder how it feels to hold by itself.
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Tide Posted at 10-15 18:50
It's probably intended as an extra grip.
Long screen of OP3 leaves small space to hold over the buttons.

True. I'm looking forward to see if they have a new extension rod as I find it very useful at time when I can extend it above the crowd.
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johansenfoto Posted at 10-15 02:14
2. Yes Pocket 2 have bigger aperture f/2.0 vs f/2.8 on OA4, but you have to take in factor that Pocket 2 have almost 50% of sensor size so you have to calculate for that. So it will also get less light than f/2.0.
Another thing is the true light gathering, that is only measured in T-stop and that depend on the lens. So since OA4 have a high quality lens it could be that it gather in total with theese factors, same or more light than Pocket 2.
This is physics.

I have both of them and a lot of low light videos done by Pocket 2. OA4 delivers much better footage.
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Wiz33 Posted at 10-15 11:53
Night/low light shoots with Pocket 2 earlier this year whilke I was in Japan.

https://youtu.be/X161ejL4F6E

I would never use 60 fps in low light. If you lower it to the 30, 25, or 24 each frame has double time to gain light because it allows shutter speed be slower. The bigger value does not mean better. You probably know this but I often hear this from people
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Aavalaakso Posted at 10-16 01:07
I would never use 60 fps in low light. If you lower it to the 30, 25, or 24 each frame has double time to gain light because it allows shutter speed be slower. The bigger value does not mean better. You probably know this but I often hear this from people

Yea, I was too lazy to change setting after using it during the day. I also kinda want to see the worst case scenario and I have another friend shooting the Gundam with a good SLR with a large aperture lens. I thought the end result is good enough for personal use.
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Product announcement is now up on the DJI Store page for 10/25 9:00AM EDT
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I don't know. Battery replacement was my most important feature. My scenarios comes so suddenly that I don't have time to put it to the charger.

Action 4 and 3 batteries are how it should be. Just grab full from the case and its 100%. And when it ends. just switch another.
With Pocket 2 it is hard to use it even hald day. Have to keep in the powerbank in backpack always when not used. With OA4 can charge all 3 batteries at home. No need to hashle during the day.

So its actually missing the main priority what I needed. This gives separate thoughts.
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Aavalaakso Posted at 10-18 21:38
I don't know. Battery replacement was my most important feature. My scenarios comes so suddenly that I don't have time to put it to the charger.

Action 4 and 3 batteries are how it should be. Just grab full from the case and its 100%. And when it ends. just switch another.

One of the rumours I saw suggested there was a battery grip available in the bundle for the Pocket 3.  
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Replaceable battery grip would be a step to the right direction, but not a complete replacement for a truly replaceable battery. I wish these devices would be made to take a similar direction as with phones, I've heard the European Union is driving for legislations that would make it obligatory for phone manufacturers to make sure the batteries in their phones are easily replaceable.
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HGDC84 Posted at 10-19 09:55
Replaceable battery grip would be a step to the right direction, but not a complete replacement for a truly replaceable battery. I wish these devices would be made to take a similar direction as with phones, I've heard the European Union is driving for legislations that would make it obligatory for phone manufacturers to make sure the batteries in their phones are easily replaceable.

Wasnt it a regulation though that made lithium batteries have to be protected from explosion which is why they are not typically replaceable.  
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HGDC84 Posted at 10-19 09:55
Replaceable battery grip would be a step to the right direction, but not a complete replacement for a truly replaceable battery. I wish these devices would be made to take a similar direction as with phones, I've heard the European Union is driving for legislations that would make it obligatory for phone manufacturers to make sure the batteries in their phones are easily replaceable.

This is true and coming. In the future all devices including smartphones sold in EU must have user replacement battery because 70% of the problems are causing the battery.

But yes this is coming.
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Hope it will have a little bit of optical zoom,  instead of digital zoom via the app.
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Teaser on the DJI homepage now. Coming on the 25th it seems.
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Pocket 3 unboxing video up on facebook

https://www.facebook.com/1000235 ... ity=332340624221384
Found the same video on YouTube


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It seems someone that understand indonesian watch the video and said the price translate to roughly US$499 in the comments
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https://twitter.com/Quadro_News/status/1715503161945825346?t=hrHR8aOqOeT5scLJ5ceffg&s=19
Unboxing video.
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All cliped from the unboxing video. The Youtube link works if you click on it.
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Wiz33 Posted at 10-20 17:56
All cliped from the unboxing video. The Youtube link works if you click on it.

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