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Renovation update 25
I have been painting windows and window frames. Lots of sides and layers to that job, so it takes quite long.
(drying is also slow now)
And Marcel installed the internals of the sockets today.
The rest will be done after wallpaper + painting.

1-5 12:39
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Really nice update Peter.    No doubt all that detailed painting takes time as well as the wait for it to dry before a second coat if needed.  Good to see Marcel back doing a bit more electrical work.  
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Getting there!
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Another step on the road to completion
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Windows,   they look more like picture frames with the quality of the painting that good.   
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DowntownRDB Posted at 1-5 15:06
Really nice update Peter.    No doubt all that detailed painting takes time as well as the wait for it to dry before a second coat if needed.  Good to see Marcel back doing a bit more electrical work.

Yup. Today the final 'outdoor' coat that I will apply when they are still indoor.
Next job (Monday) will be some indoor paint.
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DowntownRDB Posted at 1-5 15:06
Really nice update Peter.    No doubt all that detailed painting takes time as well as the wait for it to dry before a second coat if needed.  Good to see Marcel back doing a bit more electrical work.

And absolutely. Very glad the sockets got connected.
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Slowgress
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Blériot53 Posted at 1-5 23:14
Another step on the road to completion

Very true.
Long road it is, but I'll get there .
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Montfrooij Posted at 1-6 02:11
Very true.
Long road it is, but I'll get there .

Your persistence is commendable
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DAFlys Posted at 1-6 01:47
Windows,   they look more like picture frames with the quality of the painting that good.

Thanks.
One more layer today and then I'm ready for the 'inside' part of the wood.
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Montfrooij Posted at 1-6 02:14
Thanks.
One more layer today and then I'm ready for the 'inside' part of the wood.

Hopefully it's not turning cold there like here.  
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DAFlys Posted at 1-6 02:17
Hopefully it's not turning cold there like here.

It is getting colder for sure.
But the glass will be installed next Friday or Monday. And I have decided to keep the plywood on the outside, so I don't have to worry about the sealing yet.
That will come when the temp gets above 5 at night for a longer period of time.
I will first focus on the inside jobs.
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Blériot53 Posted at 1-6 02:13
Your persistence is commendable

I need to kick myself in the back part every now and then (like now.....)
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Montfrooij Posted at 1-6 02:21
I need to kick myself in the back part every now and then (like now.....)


Get on with it then!  
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Montfrooij Posted at 1-6 02:21
It is getting colder for sure.
But the glass will be installed next Friday or Monday. And I have decided to keep the plywood on the outside, so I don't have to worry about the sealing yet.
That will come when the temp gets above 5 at night for a longer period of time.

Does that mean you have to take the ply down to install the window and then re install the plywood?
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DAFlys Posted at 1-6 02:51
Does that mean you have to take the ply down to install the window and then re install the plywood?

Technically, we could install them from the inside and leave the plywood in place. But we want to cut the outside rods as well, so we need to measure the outside too. (which can only be done once the glass is installed).
But it's a 15 min job to remove the plywood and re-install it (with 2 man even less I think) so I will do that probably.
That way we can also judge if the windows are looking good from the outside (those seams will be most visible, inside they will be covered). So yeah, we will take it away briefly and replace the plywood when we are done.
I still have to paint the cuts from the rods, so we can't install those immediately.
Long story, but I hope it makes sense.
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Blériot53 Posted at 1-6 02:28
Get on with it then!

I will soon.
First have lunch.
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Montfrooij Posted at 1-6 03:01
I will soon.
First have lunch.

Eet smakelijk
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Montfrooij Posted at 1-6 03:01
Technically, we could install them from the inside and leave the plywood in place. But we want to cut the outside rods as well, so we need to measure the outside too. (which can only be done once the glass is installed).
But it's a 15 min job to remove the plywood and re-install it (with 2 man even less I think) so I will do that probably.
That way we can also judge if the windows are looking good from the outside (those seams will be most visible, inside they will be covered). So yeah, we will take it away briefly and replace the plywood when we are done.

Im not sure what you mean by rods?
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DAFlys Posted at 1-6 03:03
Im not sure what you mean by rods?

Oh wait, that did not translate well.
It's I think it is called a 'grille' which is a piece of wood that mimics the old way they used to overcome the limit in glass size they could make when they wanted bigger windows.
So they had these wooden pieces that were creating smaller panes where pieces of glass would be fit in.
Nowadays it's usually one big piece of glass, sometimes with dividers 'inside' the double glass and you just stick the wooden grille on top.
We used to have real ones in the top windows, but now we made the fake ones.
But still with this divider in between, so you can't see through the grilles.





(not our window btw)

So the aluminium inside is just 'fake' (the glass is in one piece) but the wood outside mimics the old way.
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DAFlys Posted at 1-6 03:03
Im not sure what you mean by rods?

Here you can see the old top windows with the original ones (that really divided the glass in 4 separate pieces.

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Thanks.
Final layer on the outside of the windows is applied.
Now 2 days of drying and then the inside part of the windows
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Montfrooij Posted at 1-6 05:12
Thanks.
Final layer on the outside of the windows is applied.
Now 2 days of drying and then the inside part of the windows

I hate painting windows. We opted for UPVC last time.
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Montfrooij Posted at 1-6 02:10
Yup. Today the final 'outdoor' coat that I will apply when they are still indoor.
Next job (Monday) will be some indoor paint.

Woohoo, that's more progress.  You'll be a master at painting once you finish all those edges and detailed areas.
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Montfrooij Posted at 1-6 02:10
And absolutely. Very glad the sockets got connected.

Getting the sockets in puts another check in the block for sure.  No doubt he'll be back once you get the wallpaper up to finish with the electrical stuff.
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Blériot53 Posted at 1-6 05:42
I hate painting windows. We opted for UPVC last time.

Yeah, sometimes I think we should have gone that route.
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DowntownRDB Posted at 1-6 08:37
Woohoo, that's more progress.  You'll be a master at painting once you finish all those edges and detailed areas.

Hahahahahahahaha.
Don't say that out loud.
They will ask me every time.
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DowntownRDB Posted at 1-6 08:38
Getting the sockets in puts another check in the block for sure.  No doubt he'll be back once you get the wallpaper up to finish with the electrical stuff.

Yeah, some more work to do, but he had a party from his work he had to go to.
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Montfrooij Posted at 1-6 08:59
Yeah, sometimes I think we should have gone that route.

In France we had 15 windows and 3 doors, so it was a no-brainer.
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Montfrooij Posted at 1-6 09:02
Yeah, some more work to do, but he had a party from his work he had to go to.

No doubt lots of parties between Christmas and New Years.  You need to hang onto Marcel for electrical work as he seems to be a really good worker.  
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Montfrooij Posted at 1-6 08:59
Hahahahahahahaha.
Don't say that out loud.
They will ask me every time.

     Mum is the word.
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Blériot53 Posted at 1-6 09:40
In France we had 15 windows and 3 doors, so it was a no-brainer.

Knowing what I know now, I probably would have chosen that too.
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DowntownRDB Posted at 1-6 09:58
No doubt lots of parties between Christmas and New Years.  You need to hang onto Marcel for electrical work as he seems to be a really good worker.

I'm planning on doing just that. And he is a nice guy too.
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Is that an expression?
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Montfrooij Posted at 1-6 10:02
I'm planning on doing just that. And he is a nice guy too.

That makes it even better.  No doubt you can pick up some good tips off him also.  
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Montfrooij Posted at 1-6 10:02
Is that an expression?

Yes.  "Mum's the word" means "keep quiet - say nothing".
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Montfrooij Posted at 1-6 10:01
Knowing what I know now, I probably would have chosen that too.

Mrs.B laid the law down at the time
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Blériot53 Posted at 1-6 10:27
Mrs.B laid the law down at the time

Same here.
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DowntownRDB Posted at 1-6 10:27
Yes.  "Mum's the word" means "keep quiet - say nothing".

Learning.......
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