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I've been shooting in D-Cinelike with the Mini3Pro recently, as an experiment.
First lesson I learnt - shoot in H.265 rather than H.264, since Davinci Resolve needs it.
I've tried 5 Free LUTs for D-Cinelike from a couple of sources, and the results are bizarre.
Maybe because I don't fully understand what I'm doing
But I've had much more satisfactory results when discarding the LUTS and manually
grading the colours myself in Davinci.
Any critique or advice welcome........

https://www.skypixel.com/videos/colourgrading-with-davinci-resolve-18-6


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The manual grading looks better for sure,  a little warm maybe.   

For the Luis you downloaded,  were they rec 709 luts, they get you back to a fairy flat profile that then lets you add your extra saturation etc.
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DAFlys Posted at 1-31 01:21
The manual grading looks better for sure,  a little warm maybe.   

For the Luis you downloaded,  were they rec 709 luts, they get you back to a fairy flat profile that then lets you add your extra saturation etc.

I don't know, TBH. Four were from a free site recommended by DowntownRDB, the other was from Shutterstock.  They all seemed to give curious tints.
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DAFlys Posted at 1-31 01:21
The manual grading looks better for sure,  a little warm maybe.   

For the Luis you downloaded,  were they rec 709 luts, they get you back to a fairy flat profile that then lets you add your extra saturation etc.

I think I overdid the saturation control when I did the manual one.
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Blériot53 Posted at 1-31 01:37
I think I overdid the saturation control when I did the manual one.

Thats the point with colour grading though isnt it?
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DAFlys Posted at 1-31 01:50
Thats the point with colour grading though isnt it?

How do you mean?
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To make things more vibrant and lively.  
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DAFlys Posted at 1-31 02:40
To make things more vibrant and lively.

Well yes.
But shooting in D-Cinelike and then colour grading (whether by LUT or otherwise) just ends up lie what you might get  on a nice sunny day anyway, shooting normally.
I don't really see the point.
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Manual looks really good Mr. B.  Sorry the LUTs didn't work out for you.  At least they were free and only cost you a little experimenting time.
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Blériot53 Posted at 1-31 02:59
Well yes.
But shooting in D-Cinelike and then colour grading (whether by LUT or otherwise) just ends up lie what you might get  on a nice sunny day anyway, shooting normally.
I don't really see the point.

The point is for more dynamic range,  so in 8bit mode you might loose information in the shadows on a bright day, but with dlog you get more data and then can extract the shadows as well as not clip the highlights,  its a bit like shooting raw on stills camera.
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DowntownRDB Posted at 1-31 03:20
Manual looks really good Mr. B.  Sorry the LUTs didn't work out for you.  At least they were free and only cost you a little experimenting time.

No. Nothing lost.  A rainy day usefully spent experimenting
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DAFlys Posted at 1-31 03:21
The point is for more dynamic range,  so in 8bit mode you might loose information in the shadows on a bright day, but with dlog you get more data and then can extract the shadows as well as not clip the highlights,  its a bit like shooting raw on stills camera.

It sounds like it's at about the limits of my ability to grasp
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Blériot53 Posted at 1-31 05:11
It sounds like it's at about the limits of my ability to grasp

If you watch the first part of Kens video he gets some really nice grading with just the standard footage and he runs through the things he changes.

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DAFlys Posted at 1-31 05:22
If you watch the first part of Kens video he gets some really nice grading with just the standard footage and he runs through the things he changes.

\https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knJaP3GyanU

Thanks. I'll study that early in the morning when I'm at my most alert
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Blériot53 Posted at 1-31 05:10
No. Nothing lost.  A rainy day usefully spent experimenting

Good to hear it wasn't a totally wasted effort then.  
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DowntownRDB Posted at 1-31 16:13
Good to hear it wasn't a totally wasted effort then.

All part of the Learning curve
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Blériot53 Posted at 2-1 06:22
All part of the Learning curve

Sounds like the learning curve I have on learning to play the drums.  
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DowntownRDB Posted at 2-1 12:58
Sounds like the learning curve I have on learning to play the drums.

Thing is, the curve is supposed to level off, not get steeper
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Blériot53 Posted at 2-1 13:11
Thing is, the curve is supposed to level off, not get steeper

Thanks.  I guess I just anticipated learning the drums faster or maybe I'm just too much of a perfectionist. I really just need to keep telling myself that the drums are a hobby.  
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DowntownRDB Posted at 2-1 13:18
Thanks.  I guess I just anticipated learning the drums faster or maybe I'm just too much of a perfectionist. I really just need to keep telling myself that the drums are a hobby.

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I think you did a great job with manual color grading Mr. B. This is something I ought to study myself more, especially if the filming projects are coming up in the way they are arriving now at work.

I did slightly tip my toes into it earlier on in my current project. I am making a video advertising my employer's sauna. I was told to try to make the image in the sauna feel warm and cosy, so I used some LED lightning with some warmer light settings and adjusting the white balance on my Pocket 2 to make the picture have warmer colour temperatures. However, I noticed that I had accidentally shot some scenes without the said settings, so I attempted to adjust the image colors in the post manually. Not entirely sure yet if I ought to adjust them more for those scenes, but I guess it is better than before - just need to take care of not overdoing it as to make the image look completely unnatural.
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HGDC84 Posted at 2-5 12:07
I think you did a great job with manual color grading Mr. B.  This is something I ought to study myself more, especially if the filming projects are coming up in the way they are arriving now at work.

I did slightly tip my toes into it earlier on in my current project. I am making a video advertising my employer's sauna. I was told to try to make the image in the sauna feel warm and cosy, so I used some LED lightning with some warmer light settings and adjusting the white balance on my Pocket 2 to make the picture have warmer colour temperatures. However, I noticed that I had accidentally shot some scenes without the said settings, so I attempted to adjust the image colors in the post manually. Not entirely sure yet if I ought to adjust them more for those scenes, but I guess it is better than before - just need to take care of not overdoing it as to make the image look completely unnatural.

It certainly is easy to make things look un-natural when adjusting colours.
Getting them to look bright, deep and sharp (and natural) is not that easy, I've found
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Blériot53 Posted at 2-5 12:48
It certainly is easy to make things look un-natural when adjusting colours.
Getting them to look bright, deep and sharp (and natural) is not that easy, I've found

It is an art in itself, isn't it? But once you master it, the results can be truly stunning.
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HGDC84 Posted at 2-5 12:53
It is an art in itself, isn't it? But once you master it, the results can be truly stunning.

It may take me a while
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Blériot53 Posted at 2-5 13:01
It may take me a while

I do think that will apply to me as well
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HGDC84 Posted at 2-5 13:18
I do think that will apply to me as well

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Nice work Mr. B.

I found that DJI has provided some LUTs on thier site DJI LUTs With some small corrections they work fine with me i think.
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Dronep Posted at 3-12 01:08
Nice work Mr. B.

I found that DJI has provided some LUTs on thier site DJI LUTs With some small corrections they work fine with me i think.

Thanks for the tip. I shall take a look
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It seems to me that you don’t quite understand why LUTs are needed. If you shoot with a flat profile, then you can do without them, just make corrections in the editor. But if you want to change the color scheme, you definitely need LUTs. Have you watched my videos https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... p;page=1#pid3267897
That's where I used LUT to give a certain mood and immersion in time. It's called color grading
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Serg SSA Posted at 3-16 01:53
It seems to me that you don’t quite understand why LUTs are needed. If you shoot with a flat profile, then you can do without them, just make corrections in the editor. But if you want to change the color scheme, you definitely need LUTs. Have you watched my videos https://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=309303&page=1#pid3267897
That's where I used LUT to give a certain mood and immersion in time. It's called color grading

I'm learning - slowly
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Nice try there.
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Another bit of amateur dabbling
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Blériot53 Posted at 3-25 00:41
Another bit of amateur dabbling

I know all about that.
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Montfrooij Posted at 3-25 00:55
I know all about that.

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Blériot53 Posted at 3-16 05:01
I'm learning - slowly

im not making enough improvement in my color grading skills so i plan to get the micro color panel and try a different approach:  https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve/panels
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The Saint Posted at 6-14 08:49
im not making enough improvement in my color grading skills so i plan to get the micro color panel and try a different approach:  https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve/panels

That represents a pretty serious investment in the subject. I hope you'll report back on how much of an improvement you achieve with it. I too use Davinci Resolve, but I don't do an awful lot of video work. And so I'll stick to doing the colour adjustments by hand and eye - at least for the time being
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Blériot53 Posted at 6-14 22:54
That represents a pretty serious investment in the subject. I hope you'll report back on how much of an improvement you achieve with it. I too use Davinci Resolve, but I don't do an awful lot of video work. And so I'll stick to doing the colour adjustments by hand and eye - at least for the time being

I thought I would do the same, just keep practicing with just the keyboard/computer, but it's not working out for me.  Color grade is still the most difficult part of editing a video.  And I learned that using something like this usually helps.  Thinking back to basic editing, the Speed Editor really helped alot and I was able to easily cut in half the time it took me to produce a video and I got a better video too; more crisp, more precise.  Hoping the micro color panel will do the same because my drone takes good video but something the color needs help.  I'll let you know.
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The Saint Posted at 6-15 08:45
I thought I would do the same, just keep practicing with just the keyboard/computer, but it's not working out for me.  Color grade is still the most difficult part of editing a video.  And I learned that using something like this usually helps.  Thinking back to basic editing, the Speed Editor really helped alot and I was able to easily cut in half the time it took me to produce a video and I got a better video too; more crisp, more precise.  Hoping the micro color panel will do the same because my drone takes good video but something the color needs help.  I'll let you know.

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This is a good overview:

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The Saint Posted at 6-16 15:39
This is a good overview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5UW8KgHh4M

Mmmm.  Yes. By 5 minutes in, I was becoming bemused by the barrage of information. I did persevere until the end, where the guy confirmed my conclusion.  I wouldn't get enough use out of it to justify getting one, me being just an occasional hobbyist.  But I hope you get great results with yours.
Thanks for the link.
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