This video shows the difference between the DJI Avata and the DJI Avata 2.

video being 3 days old, we don't know most of the new specs, and most of the comparison showing identical or inconsequential differences, not a value in that video.  i'm more interested in how much extra flight time, specs in Sport mode, how much better range/reception/penetration, and backwards compatibility with older goggles/mc for example.

The Saint Posted at 4-3 08:47
video being 3 days old, we don't know most of the new specs, and most of the comparison showing identical or inconsequential differences, not a value in that video.  i'm more interested in how much extra flight time, specs in Sport mode, how much better range/reception/penetration, and backwards compatibility with older goggles/mc for example.

This is a user who is new to the Forum and he is posting lots of nonsensical stuff in attempt to earn points.

LV_Forestry Posted at 4-3 08:55
This is a user who is new to the Forum and he is posting lots of nonsensical stuff in attempt to earn points.

He will soon calm down when he understand that most of us is on top on every rumour and spy video that is published on the internet

The Saint Posted at 4-3 08:47
video being 3 days old, we don't know most of the new specs, and most of the comparison showing identical or inconsequential differences, not a value in that video.  i'm more interested in how much extra flight time, specs in Sport mode, how much better range/reception/penetration, and backwards compatibility with older goggles/mc for example.

Anyway, they might have a speed upgrade in M mode, but S and N mode will probably be the same.

USER001 Posted at 4-3 12:28
Anyway, they might have a speed upgrade in M mode, but S and N mode will probably be the same.

The leak was 60mph in M mode.

DAFlys Posted at 4-3 21:34
The leak was 60mph in M mode.

Oh. So there’s no speed upgrade. That’s a shame, because I had some expectations.

USER001 Posted at 4-4 00:01
Oh. So there’s no speed upgrade. That’s a shame, because I had some expectations.

Might even be slower in N mode to meet the C1 label it may or may not get.  

DAFlys Posted at 4-4 00:12
Might even be slower in N mode to meet the C1 label it may or may not get.

Oh well. I at least hope that in Sport Mode it is 21m/s like the Mavic 3 Pro. The old Avata was 14m/s in Sport Mode. I was surprised, because that is even slower than a Mini series drone (16m/s).

Leaked comparison data, 2m/s faster in SPORT mode
https://dronexl.co/2024/04/06/dji-avata-2-key-specs-and-features/

We will know for sure in a couple of days.

Montfrooij Posted at 4-7 10:36
We will know for sure in a couple of days.

That’s right: four days.

USER001 Posted at 4-7 10:50
That’s right: four days.

Yup. Are you interested?

i was wanting to buy the avata for so long now that the avata 2 is coming out i hope the avata will drop its price

ギク | Giku Posted at 4-7 16:52
i was wanting to buy the avata for so long now that the avata 2 is coming out i hope the avata will drop its price

Yes, you are correct. The Avata price will drop.

Montfrooij Posted at 4-7 10:56
Yup. Are you interested?

Very. I can’t wait. What are your thoughts on this?

USER001 Posted at 4-7 23:51
Very. I can’t wait. What are your thoughts on this?

Never.
The rules in NL for FPV flying are way too strict for me.
I need a spotter and at least 150m horizontal distance from man made objects.
That is close to impossible here in NL apart from some super wide open fields (which are boring anyway)

Montfrooij Posted at 4-8 01:01
Never.
The rules in NL for FPV flying are way too strict for me.
I need a spotter and at least 150m horizontal distance from man made objects.

Similar rules for Italy, but there’s nothing stopping you from flying in your own garden

USER001 Posted at 4-8 01:32
Similar rules for Italy, but there’s nothing stopping you from flying in your own garden

You're not allowed to do that here.
You don't own the airspace above your house. Just the ground

Montfrooij Posted at 4-8 01:40
You're not allowed to do that here.
You don't own the airspace above your house. Just the ground

Oh. That’s a bit disappointing, especially if you own an expensive drone.

USER001 Posted at 4-8 01:49
Oh. That’s a bit disappointing, especially if you own an expensive drone.

The fact that it is your garden makes no difference for the rules.
So if you have a big big big backyard, you can fly FPV there with a spotter. Just need to make sure you keep 150m horizontal distance from about anything man made.
Which renders an FPV drone useless for me.

Montfrooij Posted at 4-8 01:51
The fact that it is your garden makes no difference for the rules.
So if you have a big big big backyard, you can fly FPV there with a spotter. Just need to make sure you keep 150m horizontal distance from about anything man made.
Which renders an FPV drone useless for me.

You can set flight boundaries

USER001 Posted at 4-7 23:49
Yes, you are correct. The Avata price will drop.

USER001 Posted at 4-8 01:54
You can set flight boundaries

That does not matter in NL.
You need to see the drone, otherwise you fall in the FPV category (A3 with extra rules)
That is how it is in NL.

Montfrooij Posted at 4-8 03:58
That does not matter in NL.
You need to see the drone, otherwise you fall in the FPV category (A3 with extra rules)
That is how it is in NL.

That seems quite strict. But then how do you fly your drones?

USER001 Posted at 4-8 04:03
That seems quite strict. But then how do you fly your drones?

I'm not flying FPV.
So I'm good.
My Mini 3 Pro can fly in a lot of places, as long as I keep VLOS.

Montfrooij Posted at 4-8 04:10
I'm not flying FPV.
So I'm good.
My Mini 3 Pro can fly in a lot of places, as long as I keep VLOS.

The Mini 3 Pro and Mini 4 Pro have two modes. If you go to camera settings, you will see Follow and FPV mode. I like FPV mode.

USER001 Posted at 4-8 04:20
The Mini 3 Pro and Mini 4 Pro have two modes. If you go to camera settings, you will see Follow and FPV mode. I like FPV mode.

Yeah. You can use that no problem. As long as you can visually see the drone (VLOS)

Montfrooij Posted at 4-8 04:25
Yeah. You can use that no problem. As long as you can visually see the drone (VLOS)

But the government or whoever controls the drones has all the right to set rules for flying in public spaces, but they have no right to stop you flying in your own property.

USER001 Posted at 4-8 04:26
But the government or whoever controls the drones has all the right to set rules for flying in public spaces, but they have no right to stop you flying in your own property.

That is a common misunderstanding.
You don't own the airspace above your land. You only own your land.
The government is in charge of the airspace. Even that above your land
Otherwise you could stop airplanes from passing over your land

Montfrooij Posted at 4-8 04:34
That is a common misunderstanding.
You don't own the airspace above your land. You only own your land.
The government is in charge of the airspace. Even that above your land  

You own the space only 30m above your land (that’s what I think). So if you be careful not to exceed the altitude of 30m, you should be fine,

USER001 Posted at 4-8 04:36
You own the space only 30m above your land (that’s what I think). So if you be careful not to exceed the altitude of 30m, you should be fine,

Nope.
No airspace is part of your property (at least not in NL).
The only thing you can do here is complain about people using it against your will and if there is a reasonable issue, they can be asked to stop using the airspace above your property.
But you don't own any part of that column of air here in NL.

Montfrooij Posted at 4-8 04:40
Nope.
No airspace is part of your property (at least not in NL).
The only thing you can do here is complain about people using it against your will and if there is a reasonable issue, they can be asked to stop using the airspace above your property.

Oh, I see.

USER001 Posted at 4-8 04:42
Oh, I see.

Not sure about Italy, but that is how it works here.

Montfrooij Posted at 4-8 01:01
Never.
The rules in NL for FPV flying are way too strict for me.
I need a spotter and at least 150m horizontal distance from man made objects.

The avata 2 is labeled as a class C1 drone and therefore allowed to fly in A1 open category in all of Europe, unlike the original avata which is labeled as a legacy drone only allowed to fly in A3 open category. This means the original avata has to be flown at least 150m away from any man-made structures, but this does not apply to the avata 2. As you mentioned, a spotter is required to maintain VLOS if you plan on using FPV goggles with the drone. I hope this helps

djiuser_E6cSIt54HyYB Posted at 4-9 15:15
The avata 2 is labeled as a class C1 drone and therefore allowed to fly in A1 open category in all of Europe, unlike the original avata which is labeled as a legacy drone only allowed to fly in A3 open category. This means the original avata has to be flown at least 150m away from any man-made structures, but this does not apply to the avata 2. As you mentioned, a spotter is required to maintain VLOS if you plan on using FPV goggles with the drone. I hope this helps

So does that mean we will start seeing UK youtubers flying avata2 around town instead of minis?

djiuser_E6cSIt54HyYB Posted at 4-9 15:15
The avata 2 is labeled as a class C1 drone and therefore allowed to fly in A1 open category in all of Europe, unlike the original avata which is labeled as a legacy drone only allowed to fly in A3 open category. This means the original avata has to be flown at least 150m away from any man-made structures, but this does not apply to the avata 2. As you mentioned, a spotter is required to maintain VLOS if you plan on using FPV goggles with the drone. I hope this helps

150m minimum distance from about anything man made.
https://www.easa.europa.eu/nl/li ... %20aanwezig%20zijn.

Montfrooij Posted at 4-10 11:02
150m minimum distance from about anything man made.
https://www.easa.europa.eu/nl/light/topics/drone-racing-and-flying-drone-goggles-first-person-view-fpv#:~:text=De%20drone%20mag%20niet%20boven%20bevolkte%20stedelijke%20gebieden%20vliegen%20en,bij%20de%20vlucht%20aanwezig%20zijn.

DJI Avata 2 is the first ever FPV drone released with a C1-class label, therefore you could conclude the information from your link outdated/unrelated. I came across this information as well before, but you should pay attention to the fact that the information of your link is all related to FPV-drone racing, so the regulations are referring mostly to custom-built drones.
You can read in the specs of avata 2 that its top speed will be limited to 19 m/s in European airspace even though the drone has a maximum speed of 27 m/s. Why would DJI put limits on their own technology that just released, if it was supposed to be flown in A3 category anyway? The entirety of the EU is a large region for them in terms of sales.

djiuser_E6cSIt54HyYB Posted at 4-11 10:04
DJI Avata 2 is the first ever FPV drone released with a C1-class label, therefore you could conclude the information from your link outdated/unrelated. I came across this information as well before, but you should pay attention to the fact that the information of your link is all related to FPV-drone racing, so the regulations are referring mostly to custom-built drones.
You can read in the specs of avata 2 that its top speed will be limited to 19 m/s in European airspace even though the drone has a maximum speed of 27 m/s. Why would DJI put limits on their own technology that just released, if it was supposed to be flown in A3 category anyway? The entirety of the EU is a large region for them in terms of sales.

SO that leaves only the spotter then.

Wel the sndor hasgone in the right direction.