As i can read the speed on the avata 2 is  slight bit faster than the old avata. And also with the motion controller. But is says that there is a limit on it with 19 m/s in Europe ??? is that locked or can you disable that limit ????

I bet thats locked as its an EASA requirement for C marked drones.

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This is a prerequisite for obtaining the C1 label.
It is irrevocable unless a declassification process is put in place.

You want to know something even „funnier“? They state on the spec sheet, that the maximum speed in sport mode is 16 m/s. Thats 57,6 km/h. Only in MANUAL MODE you can obtain the joke speed of 19 m/s (68,4 km/h). And you can only get into MANUAL MODE with the fpv rc 3 and NOT with the motion rc 3. So to summ it up: You need to buy the fpv rc 3 for an EXTRA 149€ to fly an FPV DRONE at maximum speed of 68 km/h compared to the speed of 27 m/s (97,2 km/h) OUTSIDE of the f*cking EU. Its just pure madness with these drone regulations in the EU. Why THE F I should buy a FPV Drone to fly this god damn slow?!

How does the drone perform jn the air tho ... in a dive for example.. does the drone just pulls its nose up when it becomes too fast ?

Benjamin Senf Posted at 4-11 23:09
You want to know something even „funnier“? They state on the spec sheet, that the maximum speed in sport mode is 16 m/s. Thats 57,6 km/h. Only in MANUAL MODE you can obtain the joke speed of 19 m/s (68,4 km/h). And you can only get into MANUAL MODE with the fpv rc 3 and NOT with the motion rc 3. So to summ it up: You need to buy the fpv rc 3 for an EXTRA 149€ to fly an FPV DRONE at maximum speed of 68 km/h compared to the speed of 27 m/s (97,2 km/h) OUTSIDE of the f*cking EU. Its just pure madness with these drone regulations in the EU. Why THE F I should buy a FPV Drone to fly this god damn slow?!

You will thank everyone who asked for a C1 label without knowing what it was about.

How do they even want to enforce that in M-Mode? The drone cant just hit the brakes when diving???

axgrf Posted at 4-11 23:15
How do they even want to enforce that in M-Mode? The drone cant just hit the brakes when diving???

The law imposes 19m/s in "level flight", therefore in diving the only limit is indicated by the mass of the drone and its energy at impact which are regulated. Which are obviously correct since it received certification.

Benjamin Senf Posted at 4-11 23:09
You want to know something even „funnier“? They state on the spec sheet, that the maximum speed in sport mode is 16 m/s. Thats 57,6 km/h. Only in MANUAL MODE you can obtain the joke speed of 19 m/s (68,4 km/h). And you can only get into MANUAL MODE with the fpv rc 3 and NOT with the motion rc 3. So to summ it up: You need to buy the fpv rc 3 for an EXTRA 149€ to fly an FPV DRONE at maximum speed of 68 km/h compared to the speed of 27 m/s (97,2 km/h) OUTSIDE of the f*cking EU. Its just pure madness with these drone regulations in the EU. Why THE F I should buy a FPV Drone to fly this god damn slow?!

Yeah, i dont get why you cant get full speed with the motion controller. Its no less safe to fly with that. The last 3 m/s you also get with that. You should be able to set the speeds as you want them as you can in the m4p.

And then those lawmakers should stop putting so many forced rules up. Cars can also drive faster than they are allowed to. Make speed limits and trust people to keep them. Give them a fine if they dont.

Benjamin Senf Posted at 4-11 23:09
You want to know something even „funnier“? They state on the spec sheet, that the maximum speed in sport mode is 16 m/s. Thats 57,6 km/h. Only in MANUAL MODE you can obtain the joke speed of 19 m/s (68,4 km/h). And you can only get into MANUAL MODE with the fpv rc 3 and NOT with the motion rc 3. So to summ it up: You need to buy the fpv rc 3 for an EXTRA 149€ to fly an FPV DRONE at maximum speed of 68 km/h compared to the speed of 27 m/s (97,2 km/h) OUTSIDE of the f*cking EU. Its just pure madness with these drone regulations in the EU. Why THE F I should buy a FPV Drone to fly this god damn slow?!

The difference between S and M is not only the slight speed advantage but the full control over the drone.
The low speed is because of Europe's C1. I guess one could "unlock" it but then it wouldn't be C1 anymore...

Then it's official. It is impossible to go over 19m/s even if you are flying under the A3 subcathegory...

I can't understand how it is not possible to activate that speed limitation only when you are under the A1 subcathegory and fly without limitation in the rest of situations.

This time it is not DJI's fault, it is from EASA and other authorities brilliant minds...

The speed limit is for sure .... but how does this affect the acro mode? For example ins a dive or so? Will the drone just pull its nose up?

Marclykke76 Posted at 4-12 00:17
Yeah, i dont get why you cant get full speed with the motion controller. Its no less safe to fly with that. The last 3 m/s you also get with that. You should be able to set the speeds as you want them as you can in the m4p.

And then those lawmakers should stop putting so many forced rules up. Cars can also drive faster than they are allowed to. Make speed limits and trust people to keep them. Give them a fine if they dont.

Don't know about in your country but in America, there is no roster for "drone violations."  Any and every rule or regulation you break could lead to a fine up to X years in jail or $XX,XXX fine.  Of course it never happens but it's designed that way for two reasons.  With such a harsh penalty hanging over your head for even the simplest violation, the offender will likely always plea to whatever lesser punishment is offered.  This means the FAA decides the punishment and you accept it and the FAA never has to go to court to defend anything.  It also means no one will think about breaking the rules or regulation because you could be arrested even though you likely will not.  People aren't perfect so they're still going to break the law which means when you are caught or accused, you are more likely to be submissive.

Think of traffic violations.  If you were speeding or running a stop sign and when caught, you got arrested and could go to prison (instead of thinking you'll just go ahead and take the risk and pay the small fine if caught)....there would be no traffic court.  That's why there are hundreds if not thousands of traffic violations per day; not because the lack of enforcement but mostly because the fines are set and people establish and accept the risks.  Drone pilots won't be given such a "out" likely because of the near zero enforcement.  You fly too fast or too far or over someone's head and it's bad bad bad for you if you are caught so don't do it.  

The Saint Posted at 4-12 14:38
Don't know about in your country but in America, there is no roster for "drone violations."  Any and every rule or regulation you break could lead to a fine up to X years in jail or $XX,XXX fine.  Of course it never happens but it's designed that way for two reasons.  With such a harsh penalty hanging over your head for even the simplest violation, the offender will likely always plea to whatever lesser punishment is offered.  This means the FAA decides the punishment and you accept it and the FAA never has to go to court to defend anything.  It also means no one will think about breaking the rules or regulation because you could be arrested even though you likely will not.  People aren't perfect so they're still going to break the law which means when you are caught or accused, you are more likely to be submissive.

Think of traffic violations.  If you were speeding or running a stop sign and when caught, you got arrested and could go to prison (instead of thinking you'll just go ahead and take the risk and pay the small fine if caught)....there would be no traffic court.  That's why there are hundreds if not thousands of traffic violations per day; not because the lack of enforcement but mostly because the fines are set and people establish and accept the risks.  Drone pilots won't be given such a "out" likely because of the near zero enforcement.  You fly too fast or too far or over someone's head and it's bad bad bad for you if you are caught so don't do it.

first of all the speed limit is for europe only, so not really sure why you bring up the US. Anyway, the point was that user should not have a limiter on their device. You should be trusted to not break the law. Just as you are with a car, that can drive faster than the speedlimit ;-)

Marclykke76 Posted at 4-14 04:54
first of all the speed limit is for europe only, so not really sure why you bring up the US. Anyway, the point was that user should not have a limiter on their device. You should be trusted to not break the law. Just as you are with a car, that can drive faster than the speedlimit ;-)

You reminded lawmakers to set speed limiter on cars. They'll find that: Can a drone have a limiter, why can't a car?

I don't get it. Isn't the FCC hack (the ham file) also technically breaking the EU legislation (as it bumps the transmitting power way above EU limits)? Any yet it's still an "official" hack. Why can't they do the same thing with the speed. Limited out of the box but leave a "bug" in the system so we can unlock it ourselves?

UPDATE:

Nevermind. FCC hack doesn't work in the EU either: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKvIkMoU7I8

DJI Paladin Posted at 4-11 21:05
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Hey, thanks for your help, did you manage to find an answer yet? Sorry if so, but I cant seem to find it.

Thank you for patiently waiting. This function is required by the EU regulations. You may find it on the EASA website or click the link below. We appreciate your understanding.

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal- ... =CELEX%3A32019R0945

What if you buy the Avata 2 in Europe and you use it out of Europe? Is still speed limited or it’s unlocked due to geolocation ?