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Hi there,

I would live to try the HDR Video Setting but just can't find it.

On the Homepage, DJI lists some requirements in the footnotes like "EIS needs to be disabled! 4k/60 etc".
As far as I can see, I checked everything.

But still, I can't find an HDR option. Only "normal" and D-log M.

Am I still missing Something, or will it be added later via update?
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Update 2024/04/23:

As stated by DJI Tony, there is no dedicated 'HDR On/Off' switch. As long as you use these settings, HDR is always enabled automatically:

Aspect ratio: 16:9; recording at 4K/2.7K/1080p@60/50/30fps
Aspect ratio: 4:3; recording at 4K/2.7K/1080p@30fps
With EIS set to RockSteady or HorizonSteady:
Aspect ratio: 16:9; recording at 4K/2.7K/1080p@30fps
Aspect ratio: 4:3; recording at 4K/2.7K/1080p@30fps
4-21 13:41
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Hi there. If the following shooting specifications are used for video recording, DJI Avata 2 enables the HDR mode by default:
With EIS disabled:
Aspect ratio: 16:9; recording at 4K/2.7K/1080p@60/50/30fps
Aspect ratio: 4:3; recording at 4K/2.7K/1080p@30fps
With EIS set to RockSteady or HorizonSteady:
Aspect ratio: 16:9; recording at 4K/2.7K/1080p@30fps
Aspect ratio: 4:3; recording at 4K/2.7K/1080p@30fps
I hope this helps. Have a nice day.
4-21 19:08
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DJI Tony Posted at 4-21 19:08
Hi there. If the following shooting specifications are used for video recording, DJI Avata 2 enables the HDR mode by default:
With EIS disabled:
Aspect ratio: 16:9; recording at 4K/2.7K/1080p@60/50/30fps

What do you mean with "by default"?

So, it's always HDR whenever I record with EIS on 16:9, 4k, 30FPS?

I thought there would be a separate button for it to switch it on/off.
4-21 22:09
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Hi you can find the information in the user manual of the DJI product.
4-22 01:33
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I think the way it works is you have to set your camera settings from normal to D-Log M and then color grade it to get HDR as log has all the data you need to convert it to Rec709 SDR screen or HDR 2020 open to corrections.
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Jlopatmah Lavender Posted at 4-22 01:33
Hi you can find the information in the user manual of the DJI product.

Great help.

As far as I can see, the Manual doesn't mention HDR at all:
https://dl.djicdn.com/downloads/ ... _Manual_v1.0_en.pdf
Strg + F "HDR"
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Arri_fpv Posted at 4-22 02:15
I think the way it works is you have to set your camera settings from normal to D-Log M and then color grade it to get HDR as log has all the data you need to convert it to Rec709 SDR screen or HDR 2020 open to corrections.

As far as I know, HDR should be something different.

At least, for example, with GoPro it is this way:

4-22 05:42
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HerrMittmann Posted at 4-22 05:42
As far as I know, HDR should be something different.

At least, for example, with GoPro it is this way:

Arri_fpv is right! this video that you posted as example was delivered in REC709 SDR not HDR look at the stats on youtube
to get HDR you need to record in Log profile and then color grade it or use free HDR lut  ( davinci resolve ) has free version
after you finished with it export it Rec2020 or HLG Rec 2021 then you can watch it on your screen or phone in true HDR if your device supports it btw.
4-22 06:08
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Evoq Posted at 4-22 06:08
Arri_fpv is right! this video that you posted as example was delivered in REC709 SDR not HDR look at the stats on youtube [view_image]
to get HDR you need to record in Log profile and then color grade it or use free HDR lut  ( davinci resolve ) has free version
after you finished with it export it Rec2020 or HLG Rec 2021 then you can watch it on your screen or phone in true HDR if your device supports it btw.

I guess your approach is too technical.

Look at the product page:
https://www.dji.com/de/avata-2#9 ... Brille%20justieren.

It lists HDR and D-Log as 2 separate things.
Even DJI Tony is referring to "HDR mode" above, instead of saying "Select D-Log M"...

4-22 07:54
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HerrMittmann Posted at 4-21 22:09
What do you mean with "by default"?

So, it's always HDR whenever I record with EIS on 16:9, 4k, 30FPS?

I think he means that HDR is automatically enabled when you record using one of the settings he has listed i.e. if want to record 4K/60 in HDR you need to be using the 16:9 aspect ratio with EIS disabled. If you want to record in 4K with HDR enabling EIS to use RockSteady or HorizonSteady the framerate must be set at only 30fps.   
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A J Posted at 4-22 09:49
I think he means that HDR is automatically enabled when you record using one of the settings he has listed i.e. if want to record 4K/60 in HDR you need to be using the 16:9 aspect ratio with EIS disabled. If you want to record in 4K with HDR enabling EIS to use RockSteady or HorizonSteady the framerate must be set at only 30fps.

Feels weird, if it's really enabled by default then.
Does that mean, I can also combine HDR mode with Dlog M?
4-22 12:23
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HerrMittmann Posted at 4-22 07:54
I guess your approach is too technical.

Look at the product page:

I do applogize for being too technical
it list them alright but i still think they way it works the footage must be captured in bigger spectrum than 709 space which is limited to what 5 plus stops , i know I’m going off with technical but that’s the only way i can explain it, in order to capture TRUE HDR u need Log profile as it contains at least 11plus stops of lights or luma as HDR requires it
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DJI Tony Posted at 4-21 19:08
Hi there. If the following shooting specifications are used for video recording, DJI Avata 2 enables the HDR mode by default:
With EIS disabled:
Aspect ratio: 16:9; recording at 4K/2.7K/1080p@60/50/30fps

Some websides and youtubers are wrong then:
https://www.fotogena.de/video/drohnen/dji-avata-2.html
Ctrl+F: "Mit der 4K/60fps HDR-Funktion".
4-22 23:14
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AlSo-Fotografie Posted at 4-22 23:14
Some websides and youtubers are wrong then:
https://www.fotogena.de/video/drohnen/dji-avata-2.html
STRG+F: "Mit der 4K/60fps HDR-Funktion".

Well, 4k60 HDR *is* available, it's just limited to 16:9 aspect ratio. So technically not wrong.
4-22 23:57
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HerrMittmann Posted at 4-21 22:09
What do you mean with "by default"?

So, it's always HDR whenever I record with EIS on 16:9, 4k, 30FPS?

Hello. Yes, there is no option in the settings to toggle HDR. The parameters need to be set to enable or diable it. Thank you for understanding.
4-23 02:15
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AlSo-Fotografie Posted at 4-22 23:14
Some websides and youtubers are wrong then:
https://www.fotogena.de/video/drohnen/dji-avata-2.html
Ctrl+F: "Mit der 4K/60fps HDR-Funktion".

Hi, Thank you for reaching out. It is available in Aspect ratio 16:9; recording at 4K/2.7K/1080p@60/50/30fps as mentioned above. The site says it supports HDR at 4K/60fps

Have a nice day.
4-23 02:26
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HerrMittmann Posted at 4-22 12:23
Feels weird, if it's really enabled by default then.
Does that mean, I can also combine HDR mode with Dlog M?

It's just the limitations of the camera and drone I guess. Recording 4K/60 HDR in rocksteady in either aspect ratio would be too much for the drone to process so something has to give to make it work. Stick to a 16:9 ratio and turnoff EIS and you'll record in 4K HDR at 60fps or switch to 30fps and turn on rocksteady and still record in 4K HDR due to the lower frame rate.
Would be good if there was an indicator to show that HDR recording has been enabled to save having to remember all of these limitations to make HDR recording work.
4-23 02:38
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I also vote for older style proper switch HDR ON/OFF
way more intuitive that way
4-23 02:48
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KREMi Posted at 4-23 02:48
I also vote for older style proper switch HDR ON/OFF
way more intuitive that way

Thank you for the suggestion. Please rest assured that we will register the information and provide feedback to the related departments for evaluation. Thank you for your valued support.
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Evoq Posted at 4-22 22:48
I do applogize for being too technical  
it list them alright but i still think they way it works the footage must be captured in bigger spectrum than 709 space which is limited to what 5 plus stops[view_image] , i know I’m going off with technical but that’s the only way i can explain it, in order to capture TRUE HDR u need Log profile as it contains at least 11plus stops of lights or luma as HDR requires it[view_image]

Well, I guess you're expecting some sort of "true" HDR, while the actual HDR mode is "just a color setting" for some Drones and Actioncams...and Smartphones.
4-23 05:40
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DJI Tony Posted at 4-23 02:15
Hello. Yes, there is no option in the settings to toggle HDR. The parameters need to be set to enable or diable it. Thank you for understanding.

Thanks for the clarification!

At least now I know, there is no dedicated Option/Checkbox that doesn't show up.
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DJI Tony Posted at 4-23 02:26
Hi, Thank you for reaching out. It is available in Aspect ratio 16:9; recording at 4K/2.7K/1080p@60/50/30fps as mentioned above. The site says it supports HDR at 4K/60fps
[view_image]
Have a nice day.

Sorry my fault.
There was no mention on this website that this feature is only available in 16:9 format.
That is a bit misleading

Thanks Tony for clarifiyng
4-23 05:55
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HerrMittmann Posted at 4-23 05:42
Thanks for the clarification!

At least now I know, there is no dedicated Option/Checkbox that doesn't show up.

You are most welcome. We will consider this as a suggestion and will forward it to the relevant team for evaluation. Thank you for your valued support.
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AlSo-Fotografie Posted at 4-23 05:55
Sorry my fault.
There was no mention on this website that this feature is only available in 16:9 format.
That is a bit misleading

Hi. I understand. Please feel free to let us know if you have further concerns. Have a great day ahead.
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DJI Tony Posted at 4-21 19:08
Hi there. If the following shooting specifications are used for video recording, DJI Avata 2 enables the HDR mode by default:
With EIS disabled:
Aspect ratio: 16:9; recording at 4K/2.7K/1080p@60/50/30fps

I thought HDR meant bt 2020 but all my files from the drone stayed bt.709 (SD content) regardless of Rocksteady on or off in 4K/60 16/9
Am I wrong or Avata is always record in SD mode there's why there is no switch called HDR but in certain less taxing modes camera improves dynamic range and its called HDR ?
4-29 23:09
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alex_markov Posted at 4-29 23:09
I thought HDR meant bt 2020 but all my files from the drone stayed bt.709 (SD content) regardless of Rocksteady on or off in 4K/60 16/9
Am I wrong or Avata is always record in SD mode there's why there is no switch called HDR but in certain less taxing modes camera improves dynamic range and its called HDR ?

Hello, Alex. Let me forward your concern to the relevant team to confirm. I will be back with an update. Thank you for your patience.
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DJI Tony Posted at 5-1 02:23
Hello, Alex. Let me forward your concern to the relevant team to confirm. I will be back with an update. Thank you for your patience.

I don't think this issue is solved!

Alex is right, no matter what settings you have the result is the same, the file is recorded in rec709 color-space. So no HDR video result from this.

Thank you.
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So no HDR in 4K/60 fps and Rocksteady then? What a bummer. 30 fps is not smooth enough for all the panning the drone does when you fly.
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Swedrone Posted at 7-12 03:42
So no HDR in 4K/60 fps and Rocksteady then? What a bummer. 30 fps is not smooth enough for all the panning the drone does when you fly.

You could also use the Gyroflow Software on your Computer to stabilize the footage afterward.
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HerrMittmann Posted at 7-12 05:14
You could also use the Gyroflow Software on your Computer to stabilize the footage afterward.

Yes but prefer not to mess around i Gyro just fly, edit end publish
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DJI Tony Posted at 5-1 02:23
Hello, Alex. Let me forward your concern to the relevant team to confirm. I will be back with an update. Thank you for your patience.

Hi @DJI Tony,

do you already have an answer for us?
thx


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PULARITHA Posted at 8-22 02:53
Hi @DJI Tony,

do you already have an answer for us?

Hi there!
DJI Avata 2 uses DCG HDR technology, which is different from standard HDR (stack technology). DCG HDR is an HDR technology for CMOS, which can capture details in dark parts without losing details in highlights, thus generating multi-exposure fusion video. This video has a higher dynamic range compared with ordinary video, but the generated file is not a standard HDR footage. So after being imported into the color correction software, there are not obviously visual differences between the HDR video of DJI Avata 2 and a high frame rate video with same specification.
 
Could you tell us what problem you are facing now? Please provide relevant pictures and videos for us to further investigate.
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So it ends up being SDR material (Rec.709) with more detail? Or is there a way to process it into real HDR with real visual benefit - more luminance, more colour space?
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DJI Tony Posted at 4-23 02:15
Hello. Yes, there is no option in the settings to toggle HDR. The parameters need to be set to enable or diable it. Thank you for understanding.

There is no HDR in Avata 2. It simply doesn’t exist. I have tested all possible recording modes, all screen resolutions, and all FPS values. I don’t understand why this user is lying (I followed all the settings they mentioned), but HDR still isn’t there. I also don’t understand why DJI is lying on the official Avata 2 page. All camera recording modes are only SDR (BT.709). I am asking DJI to officially respond, because this issue was crucial for me when purchasing this expensive device. You simply lied and continue to lie on the forum, in promotional materials, and everywhere else. Show me in which mode the camera records HDR (BT.2020). I don’t understand why DJI would engage in deception: you have no competitors, you are the best drone manufacturer in the world. Why tarnish your reputation like this? I don’t get it. I am asking you for the second time to officially respond to me, or refund my money for the drone — I am ready to send it back.
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djiuser_kiXbY2SkQH5C Posted at 9-7 18:27
There is no HDR in Avata 2. It simply doesn’t exist. I have tested all possible recording modes, all screen resolutions, and all FPS values. I don’t understand why this user is lying (I followed all the settings they mentioned), but HDR still isn’t there. I also don’t understand why DJI is lying on the official Avata 2 page. All camera recording modes are only SDR (BT.709). I am asking DJI to officially respond, because this issue was crucial for me when purchasing this expensive device. You simply lied and continue to lie on the forum, in promotional materials, and everywhere else. Show me in which mode the camera records HDR (BT.2020). I don’t understand why DJI would engage in deception: you have no competitors, you are the best drone manufacturer in the world. Why tarnish your reputation like this? I don’t get it. I am asking you for the second time to officially respond to me, or refund my money for the drone — I am ready to send it back.

Hi there. We are very sorry for the misunderstanding.
If the following shooting specifications are used for video recording, DJI Avata 2 enables the HDR mode by default:
With EIS disabled:
Aspect ratio: 16:9; recording at 4K/2.7K/1080p@60/50/30fps
Aspect ratio: 4:3; recording at 4K/2.7K/1080p@30fps
With EIS set to RockSteady or HorizonSteady:
Aspect ratio: 16:9; at 4K/2.7K/1080p@30fps
Aspect ratio: 4:3; recording at 4K/2.7K/1080p@30fps

DJI Avata 2 uses DCG HDR technology, which is different from standard HDR (stack technology). DCG HDR is an HDR technology for CMOS, which can capture details in dark parts without losing details in highlights, thus generating multi-exposure fusion video. This video has a higher dynamic range compared with ordinary video, but the generated file is not a standard HDR footage. So after being imported into the color correction software, there are not obviously visual differences between the HDR video of DJI Avata 2 and a high frame rate video with the same specification. You can adjust the exposure curve to see the differences in the dark part details.

You could try to shoot the same scene video below 30fps and above 30fps to compare the differences.

We are really sorry to bring you a bad experience. If you still have questions after trying the above, please feel free to contact us.
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DJI Tony Posted at 9-8 22:41
Hi there. We are very sorry for the misunderstanding.
If the following shooting specifications are used for video recording, DJI Avata 2 enables the HDR mode by default:
With EIS disabled:

Dear DJI Tony,
I hope you’re doing well.

I would like to ask you a question with this message. Why are you misleading users by stating that the HDR issue has been resolved?

In this thread,

https://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=317913

I provided evidence that there is no HDR in the new devices with Omnivision sensors. Yet, you still responded that everything is resolved.

Please provide proof. I can also claim everywhere that the issue is resolved, but this raises a direct question about your competence. It’s easy to say that black is white, but prove it. I’d like to hear your explanation.

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djiuser_kiXbY2SkQH5C Posted at 9-21 15:54
Dear DJI Tony,
I hope you’re doing well.

Hi there. Sorry for the misunderstanding. We need to tell you that we are using DCG HDR, not BT2020. That's why it doesn't show up. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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alex_markov Posted at 4-29 23:09
I thought HDR meant bt 2020 but all my files from the drone stayed bt.709 (SD content) regardless of Rocksteady on or off in 4K/60 16/9
Am I wrong or Avata is always record in SD mode there's why there is no switch called HDR but in certain less taxing modes camera improves dynamic range and its called HDR ?

as alex mentionned, bt.709 can't store the full range of HDR which needs to be in bt.2020 to process the light correctly.. DJI Tony can you explain it?
Or is the HDR more of a dual ISO trick where is compresses the dynamic range into the video?
Please update as I am trying to work on a project and need to properly grade it for HDR.
Thank you!
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