Morrisson Posted at 6-9 18:47
Hahaha, no! As you think I'm defending my country you completely misunderstand me. I'm simply saying I find it humorous that him thinking his country has a great track record is hilarious. Australia is one of the only countries where people weren't entirely stupid against other people. Germans were obviously HORRIBLE as most larger countries have been. Even worse than anything you've references or anyone might reference, my country, unfortunately, undermines most of the world with messages coming out of Hollywood. To me that's even worse than anything that's been done temporarily as it's destroying the social fabric of ALL societies worldwide...anyway.

Drones.

While I agree with you as that all countries at one stage or another did manage to fuc# up the planet and the people on it (and we are still doing it), his remark about the US not being taken seriously any longer, I would have to agree with that as well...

We were liberated by the USA army when they came to free us from the German invasion, so I'll always have respect for the US, but in the last 30 years, I got to say that it has become harder and harder to understand why the most powerful country in the world is going down hill so quickly...

Truthfully, I really don't think that Trump did help the situation a single bit, especially in foreigner relations.. But this is not the subject of this thread...

All I can see from here is again greed working hard... A US corporation trying to get rid of another corporation... It is all about money and nothing else as usual!

DJI does care about you and me as much as the other half that it is trying to get rid of DJI in the US..

A Psychopath corporation against another psychopath corporation! And who pay the price as usual? The people! Nothing new here, nothing to see, really...

Over and out...

blue_canyon21 Posted at 6-9 15:50
If this passes, the only way I'll stop flying my DJI drones is if the government sends me a check for the amount I've paid for them.

But if this law is passed your drone will be automatically grounded

What’s next to the list of products be banned made in China?

Tesla?
Chinese electric cars like BYOD?
Android smartphones from Chinese companies?
Sound/photo/video equipment made in China?

In Europe we have an ban on Huaweii and their’s networking company, all concerning securities…

ErrkaPetti Posted at 6-10 07:01
What’s next to the list of products be banned made in China?

Tesla?

I mean it's a good point...Apple phones are obviously 100% manufactured in China. If we're going conspiracy theory on it who's to say China can't access that? Honestly, it is a bit ridiculous.

djiuser_zVIQIz0R664p Posted at 6-10 03:15
But if this law is passed your drone will be automatically grounded

I don't think it's automatically grounded but it does mean that future releases can't come here. It COULD mean that the drones are all grounded...Like the older Huawei model the P30 is still able to be used here in the US. They just can't sell their newer phones.

All-X Posted at 6-6 14:47
What can one expect from a country that elected Trump, a completely insane and highly corrupt and criminal freak, as president?
And maybe they will do it again.
A classic example of a failed state that no one can ever take seriously again.

What a ignorant thing to say, Trump is the best president, we've had in the last century.  You're brainwashed by the MSM. Living under Trump our country & economy, was absolutely booming. 1.4% inflation rates, sub $2 a gallon gas prices, $2.50 a gallon of milk, secured national borders, strengthend Military. Under Biden its been a nightmare, 10% inflation rates, $4.50+ a gallon gas prices, wide open borders, with 10,000 + illegal immigrants entering our country daily, Food prices are absolutely astronomical
over $5 for a gallon of milk. I can't wate for Trump to get reelected, Trump 2024 baby. FJB

_TALL Posted at 6-8 18:39
I think that DJI has the best prosumer equipment on the market, and i really enjoy using their products. At the same time i understand the need to protect our country and the massive amount of data that it generates from DJI, TikTok or whatever foreign platform. Domestic companies do the same yes this is true but the US government could potentially access that data or control it in the event of "misuse".
Either way it get it.
I will have to buy another drone that is US based or approved. I believe this is the right move for our country as a whole.

But what do DJI drones provide data-wise that satellites already in the air don't? A lower angle on the same building? I mean you can track a person in real time with a satellite. You can read license plates? You can zoom through windows. So what does a drone provide to the Chinese government that a satellite does not? Quite frankly, I've been bouncing back and forth in regards to being for or against DJI being banned in the US. I see pros and cons to both decisions. The main problem I see is that I have NO other option in terms of a system that is as good as DJI in this price range. NOTHING. Literally. So now I'm posed with this problem. I shoot full time. I just DJI all the time. I've got DJI mics, action cameras, pockets, drones, etc., etc., etc. Granted I use plenty of other equipment, too but DJI is a part of what I do on a day to day basis.

djiuser_XmNyBDqKoSUo Posted at 6-10 10:36
What a ignorant thing to say, Trump is the best president, we've had in the last century.  You're brainwashed by the MSM. Living under Trump our country & economy, was absolutely booming. 1.4% inflation rates, sub $2 a gallon gas prices, $2.50 a gallon of milk, secured national borders, strengthend Military. Under Biden its been a nightmare, 10% inflation rates, $4.50+ a gallon gas prices, wide open borders, with 10,000 + illegal immigrants entering our country daily, Food prices are absolutely astronomical
over $5 for a gallon of milk. I can't wate for Trump to get reelected, Trump 2024 baby. FJB

Donald ”orangeface” Trump is just a clown - and, everything you said that was attcheived by Trump was pure luck, not skills…
Even USA is affected by the international finance rollercoster journey, that mean that inflation rates depends much on foreign economies…

Hopefully Trump-ass will visit the jail for some years - he’s a criminal…

Morrisson Posted at 6-10 10:33
I don't think it's automatically grounded but it does mean that future releases can't come here. It COULD mean that the drones are all grounded...Like the older Huawei model the P30 is still able to be used here in the US. They just can't sell their newer phones.

But they could putt a geo zone on the us

djiuser_zVIQIz0R664p Posted at 6-10 16:37
But they could putt a geo zone on the us

That's true! But I think DJI has to agree and add it to their system for it to impact the drone, no? It's not like it's an invisible fence you can't fly through.

Morrisson Posted at 6-9 18:48
Unfortunately they might be able to ground your drone.

Was what i purchased misrepresented? Did i buy DRONE AS A SERVICE and not something i actually own?ill be honest this drone for being so advanced isn't very impressive has multiple cameras yet more limited than a round vacuum i had 15 years ago. most likely because its neutered because any sort of fun is forbidden because everything is a weapon....at some point whats the point

Morrisson Posted at 6-10 18:44
That's true! But I think DJI has to agree and add it to their system for it to impact the drone, no? It's not like it's an invisible fence you can't fly through.

Very true

But couldn't the faa add a geo zone

Or not

djiuser_XmNyBDqKoSUo Posted at 6-10 10:36
What a ignorant thing to say, Trump is the best president, we've had in the last century.  You're brainwashed by the MSM. Living under Trump our country & economy, was absolutely booming. 1.4% inflation rates, sub $2 a gallon gas prices, $2.50 a gallon of milk, secured national borders, strengthend Military. Under Biden its been a nightmare, 10% inflation rates, $4.50+ a gallon gas prices, wide open borders, with 10,000 + illegal immigrants entering our country daily, Food prices are absolutely astronomical
over $5 for a gallon of milk. I can't wate for Trump to get reelected, Trump 2024 baby. FJB

You do realise don’t you that the price of petrol, the world over, is driven by market fluctuations and supply or easing of supply by OPEC don’t you?

cforcupcake Posted at 6-10 22:41
Was what i purchased misrepresented? Did i buy DRONE AS A SERVICE and not something i actually own?ill be honest this drone for being so advanced isn't very impressive has multiple cameras yet more limited than a round vacuum i had 15 years ago. most likely because its neutered because any sort of fun is forbidden because everything is a weapon....at some point whats the point

Hahaha...yes, that's sort of how I feel. I don't know how the US will be able to stop us from flying the drones because as far as I know the drones don't use US based equipment. Obviously they use satellites for positioning but I don't know who owns those. I'm hoping that the ban will only prevent new drones from being sold in the US not from the flying of drones already owned. Otherwise, you can definitely use https://droneadvocacyalliance.com/ to lobby against the bill. They make it very simple to send a letter to your government representative.

djiuser_zVIQIz0R664p Posted at 6-11 04:43
But couldn't the faa add a geo zone

Yes, of course but I don't think that it automatically updates in the DJI database. It also doesn't act like a physical wall built in the air. I honestly don't know how it works I just know that if your database is out of date and not connected to WiFi new Geo Zones don't impact the drone.

djiuser_XmNyBDqKoSUo Posted at 6-10 10:36
What a ignorant thing to say, Trump is the best president, we've had in the last century.  You're brainwashed by the MSM. Living under Trump our country & economy, was absolutely booming. 1.4% inflation rates, sub $2 a gallon gas prices, $2.50 a gallon of milk, secured national borders, strengthend Military. Under Biden its been a nightmare, 10% inflation rates, $4.50+ a gallon gas prices, wide open borders, with 10,000 + illegal immigrants entering our country daily, Food prices are absolutely astronomical
over $5 for a gallon of milk. I can't wate for Trump to get reelected, Trump 2024 baby. FJB

You forgot that the history of the bans began under the Trump government. Trump started by asking for a ban on TikTok. Short memory?

djiuser_zVIQIz0R664p Posted at 6-9 10:43
Can you still get parts from Amazon to fix a drone

Well,I don’t know but if your dji drone is grounded than even if you fixed it than you couldn’t fly it.

Warren Steed Posted at 6-12 10:40
Well,I don’t know but if your dji drone is grounded than even if you fixed it than you couldn’t fly it.

Good point

Warren Steed Posted at 6-12 10:40
Well,I don’t know but if your dji drone is grounded than even if you fixed it than you couldn’t fly it.

Good point

atez Posted at 6-8 03:53
Very True Morrisson. Is China monitoring? Sure they are, just like America is monitoring China and Europe And France and Germany and Ford and Tesla and all other connected cars and machines are monitoring you, so are Israel and Russia and India and Irak. Will my holidaypics endanger the world? Hardly. It is the dominant nature of the worlds most dangerous creature: humans

BTW, what are you doing with this whole DJI ban? Are you lobbying with them or against them? I'm still on the fence...

Warren Steed Posted at 6-12 10:40
Well,I don’t know but if your dji drone is grounded than even if you fixed it than you couldn’t fly it.

But btw, what are you doing about this whole thing? Did you contact your local goverment person or do you agree with the bill? I'm still deciding...

Remember when one country does this others will follow. Make your voices heard, and stop arguing about the trivial items.

Did it pass today

Dear DJI, this is in your courtyard...

In order to solve this, STOP GATHERING DATA FROM DRONE AND SEND LOGS TO CHINA....As we all know, massive data is sent by drone, containing low res pictures, data from GPS and sensors....
So:
1. Remove the Fly Safe in order to stop the internet needed for connection
2. Remove the DAT logs that also gather images and all....just leave a small log only with flight parameters.

So simple....and in your courtyard....

Luca Rubino Posted at 6-8 05:02
The fact that your holiday photos, plus those of that other, plus others and so on, more telemetry data of millions of people (they know where they are flying), you build a database that you can't even imagine.
You could be an insignificant drop, but so many insignificant drops create an ocean.

You are right but do they need the dji info? the whole world is beeing constantly monitored by elaborate machines, and software. The pro's of a ban on just drones is futile, They will have to ban everything from middle east and China and from toys to cars. I think it has to do with protection of another kind. Dji makes drones of exeptional quality and usability. USA drones are not even beginning to make drones of such level of quality and that hurts.

atez Posted at 6-13 00:43
You are right but do they need the dji info? the whole world is beeing constantly monitored by elaborate machines, and software. The pro's of a ban on just drones is futile, They will have to ban everything from middle east and China and from toys to cars. I think it has to do with protection of another kind. Dji makes drones of exeptional quality and usability. USA drones are not even beginning to make drones of such level of quality and that hurts.

I don't doubt the quality of DJI drones. Especially for stabilized drones it is the leader in the market. And I'm not saying whether the ban is right or not. I don't want to go down to the political level because not living in the US, I don't know the history of the speech carried out by their politicians. Except that, as a computer engineer, I used to explain the excuse "what do they do with my vacation photos", for those in the industry, we know that there is a flood of information behind that seemingly harmless data. Of course, drones can give information that electric cars can't give. And we fly them to places that cannot be reached by car. So on the one hand, personally, I understand the issue raised by the American Senate, on the other I understand the concern of all of us DJI drone users. That we just want to have fun with drones that we love. I hope they find a better solution rather than ban DJI.

Jason Earle6 Posted at 6-12 20:39
Did it pass today

Vote got moved to today.

BetterBizTech Posted at 6-12 17:01
Remember when one country does this others will follow. Make your voices heard, and stop arguing about the trivial items.

Great point.

Geo_Drone Posted at 6-12 22:39
Dear DJI, this is in your courtyard...

In order to solve this, STOP GATHERING DATA FROM DRONE AND SEND LOGS TO CHINA....As we all know, massive data is sent by drone, containing low res pictures, data from GPS and sensors....

Well stated. Seems that would handle a concern of security...

Luca Rubino Posted at 6-13 04:52
I don't doubt the quality of DJI drones. Especially for stabilized drones it is the leader in the market. And I'm not saying whether the ban is right or not. I don't want to go down to the political level because not living in the US, I don't know the history of the speech carried out by their politicians. Except that, as a computer engineer, I used to explain the excuse "what do they do with my vacation photos", for those in the industry, we know that there is a flood of information behind that seemingly harmless data. Of course, drones can give information that electric cars can't give. And we fly them to places that cannot be reached by car. So on the one hand, personally, I understand the issue raised by the American Senate, on the other I understand the concern of all of us DJI drone users. That we just want to have fun with drones that we love. I hope they find a better solution rather than ban DJI.

Thank you! I was recently noticing that all of these people living outside of the US criticizing our government for anything and everything. I do think, however, that what the US decides could quickly impact other countries. Anyway, I don't want DJI banned but I don't see why DJI doesn't do something like change the way they collect data or whatever.

atez Posted at 6-13 00:43
You are right but do they need the dji info? the whole world is beeing constantly monitored by elaborate machines, and software. The pro's of a ban on just drones is futile, They will have to ban everything from middle east and China and from toys to cars. I think it has to do with protection of another kind. Dji makes drones of exeptional quality and usability. USA drones are not even beginning to make drones of such level of quality and that hurts.

You're totally right and it's great to see another American talking about this. EVERYTHING collects data nowadays and it all goes online. I get emails every few months from US companies about their data being breached. Where does that data go? I agree that the ban is futile.

Morrisson Posted at 6-13 06:45
Vote got moved to today.

Hopefully they got word that DJI cut off syncing. It's going to make things more difficult to keep logs, but I understand why.

Morrisson Posted at 6-13 06:45
Well stated. Seems that would handle a concern of security...

I hope someone steps up with a way to keep flight logs  easily. This manual transfer is a pain.

BetterBizTech Posted at 6-13 07:30
Hopefully they got word that DJI cut off syncing. It's going to make things more difficult to keep logs, but I understand why.

Wow. Yes, I just saw the announcment. This is wild.

Morrisson Posted at 6-13 08:03
Wow. Yes, I just saw the announcment. This is wild.

It's a sad state of affairs when America reacts to speculation.

BetterBizTech Posted at 6-13 08:12
It's a sad state of affairs when America reacts to speculation.

And as the United States goes, the rest will follow.

John Kay Posted at 6-13 09:20
And as the United States goes, the rest will follow.

As long as there is a payoff involved.

Geo_Drone Posted at 6-12 22:39
Dear DJI, this is in your courtyard...

In order to solve this, STOP GATHERING DATA FROM DRONE AND SEND LOGS TO CHINA....As we all know, massive data is sent by drone, containing low res pictures, data from GPS and sensors....

Do you really think your low res photos are going to be used for anything other than the bin . Stop with the ridiculous rubbish. GDPR is a protection that is a guarantee for all Europeans , do you ask the same thing of you tube facebook google etc etc. dji are free to gather my information regarding flights the low res images they are welcome to and if I need my information back at anytime I'm entitled to ask for it back or to be removed .
America has no protection as to who has their information and if they did we could say goodbye to apple facebook google etc , so dji have decided to no longer store their data and that either way is probably a benefit to dji. If dji use my information for anything other than what I agree too I’m fully protected and am quite happy they store my flight data until I need it etc.