The Inspire3 is not listed on the EASA website as a classified drone anymore. Neither as an C3 drone, nore as a C5 drone with kronos parachute kit.
what is going on here?

just got this message from EASA:

Thank you for contacting EASA.

In fact we did not receive the formal authorisation from DJI to list the inspire 3, so we have to remove it.
To find out about the statuts of the C3 certification on your drone, please contact DJI.

Best regards;
Drone Section
European Union Aviation Safety Agency

There is some talk about that case on a FB group.

''According  to EASA, the Mavic3 series is currently the only drone series from Dji  that not only has the C seal on the drone, but also the correct  documentation. EASA (Austro Control GmbH (ACG)) has been working on  gathering the correct documents for several weeks. This also includes  the listing and certification of TÜV-Reihnland. There was already a  working group on this topic last week with the German Federal Aviation  Office (LBA). However, there has been no comment from DJI yet to that  case.22''

Lets hear from the official DJI folks here what is going on.
Because if it has a C3 label sticked to it and is actually not C* certified this could create some serious insurance problems.
This would also be false advertisment when selling the I3, which could actually lead to some law suits.

This is not good.

The drone already should by right have had a C2 label to make it properly useful, but not carrying any label at all is a big issue.

Mike9129 Posted at 6-20 00:30
This is not good.

The drone already should by right have had a C2 label to make it properly useful, but not carrying any label at all is a big issue.

A general C2 certification would reduce the max allowed speed due to kinetic impact energy.
That would make it pretty useless for many scenarios.

The only way to use it to its full potential is by getting a SORA and using a certified parachute and fts system.
We are still in the process of getting a SORA.... In our opinion an addon fts and parachute system, made by 3rd party, that has to be stuck into the battery conectors, is not really helping with saftey concerns. But we use it as part of getting a SORA (which should be finished soon...). But a dji own solution would be technically the better way to go.
This is where DJI could shine by offering a SORA request service and fts and parachute system. That would be a  easy cash cow for them.
I told some people at dji about that when the I3 was launched, but in the end it might still be a too small segment for them compared to the rest of their asian business.

Coyut Posted at 6-20 01:03
A general C2 certification would reduce the max allowed speed due to kinetic impact energy.
That would make it pretty useless for many scenarios.

In theory yes, but the Irish Aviation Association struggles to get PDRA - 01 operation manuals approved (we are down to under 50 operators in the country at the moment because the IAA do not know what they want the manual to contain and take a month for every reply to submissions) so my prospect of developing or obtaining a SORA is very close to a 0% chance.

I am lucky that I have my OA approved now, but it is not with enhanced containment (using dronavia FTS & Parachute) so I am still quite limited in what I can do.

It is a pain.

Mike9129 Posted at 6-20 07:54
In theory yes, but the Irish Aviation Association struggles to get PDRA - 01 operation manuals approved (we are down to under 50 operators in the country at the moment because the IAA do not know what they want the manual to contain and take a month for every reply to submissions) so my prospect of developing or obtaining a SORA is very close to a 0% chance.

I am lucky that I have my OA approved now, but it is not with enhanced containment (using dronavia FTS & Parachute) so I am still quite limited in what I can do.

Yes it is. PDRA and STS is pretty useless for cinematic work in urban regions.
Hopefully our SORA is finished this september (After 18 month or so...). All aviation authorities are under pressure. Not just because of us cinematic flyers but also because of cargo, air taxies etc. Also the rules for manned flights, like helicopter services went up and add a lot of additional administration.
Most aviation agencies also don't know how to handle our drones. There are even differences from worker to worker inside the same agency. Also rules change to quickly and stuff has to be changed all the time in the same SORA request.
So its almost impossible to get a SORA without working with a highly qualified "air space lawyer" and spending a lot of money. Also a parachute and fts like the Kronos will be required in most situations.
EASA just released SORA 2.5 and the fun beginns again ;)

Coyut Posted at 6-25 22:16
Yes it is. PDRA and STS is pretty useless for cinematic work in urban regions.
Hopefully our SORA is finished this september (After 18 month or so...). All aviation authorities are under pressure. Not just because of us cinematic flyers but also because of cargo, air taxies etc. Also the rules for manned flights, like helicopter services went up and add a lot of additional administration.
Most aviation agencies also don't know how to handle our drones. There are even differences from worker to worker inside the same agency. Also rules change to quickly and stuff has to be changed all the time in the same SORA request.

Out of interest, what type of missions are you hoping to achieve with the SORA?

Do you think you can achieve flight in built up areas with uncontrolled ground areas?

Mike9129 Posted at 6-27 05:56
Out of interest, what type of missions are you hoping to achieve with the SORA?

Do you think you can achieve flight in built up areas with uncontrolled ground areas?

Yes, its possible with a dedicated SORA, parachute and FTS system.
I can't talk about details due of a NDA but its possible to fly low and high in uncontrolled urban zones.

@dji what is the latest update on the situation here?

In Ireland, we have just been told that because the drone has lost the C3 mark, we will now be made fly at least 5km from built up areas, assemblies of people and airports.

This is unacceptable. The drone was bought with the C3 mark, I will be out of pocket for thousands of euro if this is not fixed shortly.

Please respond at your earliest convenience.

Mike9129 Posted at 8-29 02:22
@dji what is the latest update on the situation here?

In Ireland, we have just been told that because the drone has lost the C3 mark, we will now be made fly at least 5km from built up areas, assemblies of people and airports.

they giving a f*ck about us.. and everyone here should realized that over the last month. no communication, no usefull updates, nothing! i contacted my lawyer about this case and he told me that we have good chances to get back our money because they sold us a product with a status that doesn´t exist anymore .. and the fact that the community had to tell us that we lost the c3 mark is an impudence.

so I advise everyone who is also p*ssed about this case to get some information from a lawyer about this

philipreichwein Posted at 8-29 11:04
they giving a f*ck about us.. and everyone here should realized that over the last month. no communication, no usefull updates, nothing! i contacted my lawyer about this case and he told me that we have good chances to get back our money because they sold us a product with a status that doesn´t exist anymore .. and the fact that the community had to tell us that we lost the c3 mark is an impudence.

so I advise everyone who is also p*ssed about this case to get some information from a lawyer about this

So the time came to change lawyers.

1/The drone manual is up to date with the mention of certification
DJI_Inspire_3_User_Manual_V2.0_EN.pdf (djicdn.com) page 141

2/The declaration of conformity exists and is in good and due form.
INSPIRE 3 combo 1.pdf (djicdn.com)

3/The certificate issued by the TUV Rheinland verifier is still valid, at least until today, which means that the product is still compliant and has never lost its classification #f*kenews.
Certificate No. BA 60177381 - Certipedia

What is true is that DJI did not give EASA permission to publish it in the list. As expressed by the email of the EASA representative in post No. 2.
But this does not prevent the drone and its user from fully enjoying its C3 certification. Moreover, it could no longer be marketed in Europe if it realy lost his certification, but this is clearly not the case.
I do not see anything in the text 2019-945 that requires EASA to publish on its web page a drone as being certified, for this certificate to become valid.

If anyone wants to double check:
EUR-Lex - 02019R0945-20200809 - EN - EUR-Lex (europa.eu)

LV_Forestry Posted at 8-29 11:33
So the time came to change lawyers.

1/The drone manual is up to date with the mention of certification

As an aside to this, in post 2 the EASA said that the did not receive permission to list the drone as C3 compliant from DJI, but by the same measure, DJI have shipped the drone with a C3 class marking.

How does that line up?

Mike9129 Posted at 9-2 03:53
As an aside to this, in post 2 the EASA said that the did not receive permission to list the drone as C3 compliant from DJI, but by the same measure, DJI have shipped the drone with a C3 class marking.

How does that line up?

This list on EASA webpage has no legal value.

LV_Forestry Posted at 9-2 04:55
This list on EASA webpage has no legal value.

WRONG.. if i wanna use my Dronavia Kit which is certificated from the EASA then it has a legal value because without C3 there will be no C5 change..

philipreichwein Posted at 9-2 05:09
WRONG.. if i wanna use my Dronavia Kit which is certificated from the EASA then it has a legal value because without C3 there will be no C5 change..

I know it's easier to spout urban legends than to take a few hours to read official documents and understand them.

But I assure you it's worth it.

Btw..
It is not enough to have an "EASA approved" Dronavia kit to be able to transform any C3 into a C5. The whole thing must have received a C5 type certification.
And besides, this has nothing to do with the original subject, namely why the Inspire 3 was removed from the list.

edit:
I just checked on the Dronavia website. If you have the EASA compliant kit, you mount it on the drone according to the instructions and that's all, the drone is C5.
You should have received the certification documents with it.

Once again, it is not because it does not appear on the EASA summary page that the certification is not valid. Ask Dronavia they will explain it to you.

It is interesting that the TÜV certification was issued in July 2024

Date of Issue
2024-07-09

https://www.certipedia.com/certi ... n&page_number=1


So it seems there has been a recertification at some point or the certification was never really finished an valid until then.

it's back :

https://www.easa.europa.eu/en/do ... rones-eu-operations