I would like to express my deep gratitude to DJI for creating a firmware that allows you to select high bitrate.
I trust how they communicate with consumers.

Many OA5 users have been concerned about bitrate issues,
but personally, I think that the biggest problem with OA5 is the color in normal mode rather than bitrate.

For users, an action camera should be easy to operate.
You should be able to capture great images easily and simply as soon as you press the record button.
It is not easy for ordinary people to adjust the exposure value, shutter speed, etc. at that moment.
Ordinary people are not camera experts.

When in normal mode or 10-bit mode, the sky looks too cartoonish and the clouds are flat.
It's like plastic AI.
The human skin is too pink, the colors are expressed boringly, and the overall image is too bright.
As a result, the asphalt road on the street has no details and the colors are all blown out.
The border between the leaves and the sky is awkward.
The sharpness is awkwardly excessive.

The bitrate change in the video uploaded to SNS will be hard for the general public to notice.
Because OA5 already provides a bitrate higher than the bitrate required for SNS.

D-LOG M is still cool,
but please let me record cool videos in normal 10-bit mode when in normal mode.
We need the cool color of OA5.
OA5 doesn't have that.

It will be cool to have a more natural color profile I posted in another thread how greens get a radioactive tint when the sun shines on them, clouds also look very flat as you say. Also I agree that having the option to turn off almost all sharpness will be a nice addition since I find it more natural how it looks in the Action4 and Gopro(11-13) when using low sharpness.

Completely agree with all that was said above and it's exactly what i see on my footage and the latest firmware updates did nothing regarding these issues .
The " radioactive" green is present on most scenes where the sun is shining bright and there's a lot of greenery , completely unnatural ( same goes for the sky that looks flat ).

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Here is a clip from a video taken yesterday with latest firmware. 4K60 UW, Normal 10 bit, -2 Textures, -2 Sharpness. You can see the weird greens at the beginning of the clip, also note how the trees have a weird halo in their leafs.



This other one was taken with the previous firmware, many shades of green can be seen in this one. As I mentioned in the other thread where I posted this video it was recorded during peak rainy season, greens have a deep vivid color, not a yellowish one like in summer.

peloncr Posted at 10-21 05:53
Here is a clip from a video taken yesterday with latest firmware. 4K60 UW, Normal 10 bit, -2 Textures, -2 Sharpness. You can see the weird greens at the beginning of the clip, also note how the trees have a weird halo in their leafs.

https://youtu.be/SolMilzrjas

Looks like it's struggling with dynamic range to me.

Once you come out from under the underpass - which itself looks exposed pretty well - then the sky and green areas become a lot better.

While you are under the underpass the camera is obviously exposing for the area under there which leaves the brighter areas - sky and greens that have direct sunlight - over-exposed.

I know the saturation is a personal preference (I actually don't mind the OA5P saturation levels - I've seen much worse), but your footage certainly shows problems when you have two very difefrently lit areas.

The OA5P brags about its dynamic range capabilities, but your footage certainly shows it struggling a bit there!

I am completely agree with all that was said above and it's exactly what i see when I record a video. And the last update increase the saturation of the radioactive green and flat sky. In a clip taken yesterday with my AO5 and the last firmware update, in normal 10 bits, the image is too bright.

No Original Thought Posted at 10-21 06:52
Looks like it's struggling with dynamic range to me.

Once you come out from under the underpass - which itself looks exposed pretty well - then the sky and green areas become a lot better.

Yes something is going on with the shadows, when using Dlogm they are darker and more natural. From what I have seen in youtube the Action4 doesn't seems to have this issue in the normal color profile, I think DJI should another color profile similar to that one and leave the current one as Normal, since actually some people seems to like the HDR look in the current color profile.

I agree with you... sadly Action 4 looks waaay better regarding sky and trees and everything...they really need to do some hard work to fix this issues... it's not possible like "new" and "pro" camera to be worst than previous one...

Timer shooting needs to be looked at I think….

Yes! We need normal color mode fix.

I completely agree with this.
I thought that increasing the bitrate and updating it would fix the issues, but the problems I had in mind weren’t resolved.
Action 5 oversimplifies certain patterns, erasing details, so it seems like increasing the bitrate is pointless.
On top of that, the image is excessively sharp. I set the sharpness value to -2, but I still wish it were softer.
color tone is also too vivid. I want to easily achieve a neutral image that looks comfortable and soft for anyone to view.
I wish DJI would allow us to choose such options or create a new color profile.
Gopro keeps releasing similar devices without much improvement, yet they still have demand, and there’s probably a reason for that.

I don't like the normal color modes. They edges seem sharp and contrasty.
I would like to see the exposure weaving fixed.

What I would like for the OSMO Action 5 Pro is the option to specify the "flicker setting" separately from the FPS number, like with the Pocket 3. Because of the fast shutter settings, I would prefer 60 to 50 FPS for a smoother image. But at 60fps the lights flicker quite a bit. The Pocket 3 can easily handle that.

I'd say face priority exposure in HLG and DLogM. Only Normal mode exposes correctly for the face, but as you said it all look cartonish at best.
Color grading DLogM is easy. Either just LUT or ColorSpaceTransfor + 2 twicks (more contrast and saturation to taste). But HLG and DLogM are only useful if you do not record faces.

I mean face priority as an option to be turned on in the main menu, or exposure menu. Because sometimes you want to have exposure for the whole scene (like currently in HLG and DLogM.

We definitely need an extended shutter setting for the camera. The best supernight mode is of little use if you can only get reasonable results with a gimbal. It would be really good if you could not only set the shutter to 100-8000 and 200-8000, but also get at least 2 values ​​in between... 120-8000 and 160-8000. Or another in between (140-8000). That would give you a lot more scope for low-light stabilization.

DJI did take away a feature  in the OA5P  skin tone adjustment guess that is now automated

I agree that face priority would be nice to have available as an overall setting, not just certain modes.  It worked great on my OA1.

My biggest complaint at the moment, and this carries over from OA2, 3 and 4, is the camera prioritizes low ISO settings in stills mode to preserve image quality, at the expense of slow shutter speeds which don't stop action.... this is a MAJOR flaw for divers like myself.  I don't want to be forced into setting full manual shutter or ISO, because that is a compromise underwater where I can't change settings.  I don't want to have 30 different custom modes to cycle through to work around this either.

I would like to be able to set a MINIMUM shutter in "auto ISO" like my Canon cameras have allowed for years.  I think (could be wrong?) gopro even has this.  Shutter speeds were never a concern for me on GoPro 10/11/12, but always too slow underwater for me on Osmo Action.

The more AI we get the more unnatural things we get. This happened also with Samsung S24. People complaining pictures look unnatural. I have seen this is many places. I'm happy with my OA4. I wont change it. Everything is actually great with it and it just works when everything auto needed.

According to all that has been written, can it be said that OA4 is a better camera than OA5 despite everything?

I could not agree more with the post, the main problem wich has to be addresed is the color profiles  the oversharpness and the hdr look. We all agree  osmo 4 has the better  settings for now. This  is what most of us wait from the next update.

wish DJI would wipe clean the  firmware, reload back  fw  the first release, and choose to load it or not  and fix one problem at a time not take on more then you can chew

Omar Aga Posted at 10-24 00:58
According to all that has been written, can it be said that OA4 is a better camera than OA5 despite everything?

No oa4 is not a better camera, it is just better configured, but it can be changed, as it is only software based issue.

DJI should provide a natural profile, additionnaly to the current "normal" profile which should be called "vivid profile".

A few things need changing for the Standard colour profile. For one, the sharpness settings seem to behave differently to the D-Log M mode. For some reason the Standard profile keeps applying more sharpening even at the -2 setting. Also, the colour behaviour is due to overt use of tone mapping. We need an option to have the HDR tone mapping as an option to turn on (and have it off by default). Or have an option to have an Off, Low, Med, High setting for the tone mapping. Or, as someone else suggested, have the tone mapped profile as an extra profile called "Vivid". Either way, users need to be able to use the camera with the function turned off, along with the sharpening tuning I mentioned.

Overall I like the new camera, however I would like to see stabilisation improved when shooting in lower light scenarios. I use my camera primarily for MTB and in heavily wooded sections get some tearing when under tree cover.

Also sport stabilisation is only available when shooting in normal modes and not HLG HDR or D-Log M. Given that the main use case for the camera is action I'd like the ability to use sport stabilisation across all shooting modes.

One of the big problems is that the screen off settings do not work properly. If you set this setting to "never" the screen should never turn off, right? I bought this camera specifically for the dives I will be doing and I do not want the screen to turn off during the dive (you cannot interfere with the screen when using a dive case anyway). But unfortunately the screen turns off in a short time with this setting. I think this is a very unpleasant problem for divers who use the camera for this purpose.

Omair20 Posted at 10-25 14:51
One of the big problems is that the screen off settings do not work properly. If you set this setting to "never" the screen should never turn off, right? I bought this camera specifically for the dives I will be doing and I do not want the screen to turn off during the dive (you cannot interfere with the screen when using a dive case anyway). But unfortunately the screen turns off in a short time with this setting. I think this is a very unpleasant problem for divers who use the camera for this purpose.

Hi there,
thank you for reaching out.

We apologize for the inconvenience. We will consider this feedback as a request and pass it on to the relevant team for evaluation. Moving forward, we will refine and enhance our product or service in response to user feedback. We appreciate your patience and kind understanding.

DJI Diana Posted at 10-26 01:33
Hi there,
thank you for reaching out.

I would like to see the following things in the next firmware update:

1. You should be able to set the minimum and maximum values ​​for the shutter speed manually so that you are not dependent on relatively unfavorable from-to values.

2. You should also be able to specify the ISO value in manual from-to values ​​and not have to resort to fixed settings. This would at least prevent some of the shaky night shots. You would also have the option of going from very bright areas to very dark areas without having to interrupt the video to choose a different setting.

3. It would really be an advantage if you could also use the sports mode in HLG and d-log m. Since I take almost all of my shots in d-log M, it is a big disadvantage for me not to be able to activate the sports mode there.

Maddin-6616 Posted at 10-27 03:21
I would like to see the following things in the next firmware update:

1. You should be able to set the minimum and maximum values ​​for the shutter speed manually so that you are not dependent on relatively unfavorable from-to values.

Hi there,
thank you for reaching out.

We will continue to forward this feedback to the relevant team for consideration. In the future, we will refine and improve our product or service based on user feedback.

Please can we get urgent updates for live streamers. The action 4 is still better than the 5 but both still lacking. Higher frame rates for RTMP and Webcam. Quality is still very poor on both even after the firmware. As a "Pro" camera it shouldnt be this bad and hard to fix