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DJI Mavic 3E: Googles like Integra possible?
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StrengMa
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Hi everyone,
short question about the Mavic 3E Drone:

Is it possible to use the drone with for example the integra googles for further investigation of factory?
I tried to find an anwser here and on product information. It always includes Mavic 3, Mavic 3 Cine, Pro and so on but there is 3E or 3T not mentioned.

Thank you!
2024-11-5
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DJI Wanda
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Hi, there
We apologize for the inconvenience that you are encountering.
Kindly remind you that the Mavic 3E is not compatible with the Goggles integra.
Thanks for your understanding.
2024-11-6
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StrengMa
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Is there a Googles that is compactable?

Its hard to understand this solution why company expensive drones dont have a FPV Google option. We want to check small pipes and its easier for a pilot to check this with FPV view direct.
2024-11-6
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LV_Forestry
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Why do you absolutely want DJI. Take any google that suits you, from another brand, with an HDMI input, and that's it!

Personally I work with an 80cm screen that is in the trunk of the car. Much more comfortable than a virtual reality headset to see details.
2024-11-6
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StrengMa
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LV_Forestry Posted at 11-6 03:40
Why do you absolutely want DJI. Take any google that suits you, from another brand, with an HDMI input, and that's it!

Personally I work with an 80cm screen that is in the trunk of the car. Much more comfortable than a virtual reality headset to see details.

Hello LV_Forestry, Sveiki,

thank you for your post!
We just ordered the Mavic 3E with the new Controller. We only had an Air 2S before for company checks.

I did not know that you can use HDMI or 3rd Party googles?
I did not find any solution in the web that would fit our pilot. I personally thought that a google would be nice because the small displays are often not enought for the pilot. Also i thought it would be easierer for smaller tasks on the factory where the pilot needs to fly

2024-11-6
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Dogpilot
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I tried both types of DJI Goggles, the Goggles 2 and the Goggles Integra. Both are, well uncomfortable. They also make it so you need to use the motion controller and the not working with Enterprise drones as well. I had hoped to use them for rock wall inspections and finer control over my flight path with the Cine (I mainly use my two Enterprise drones 3T & 3E), which I use for fun. So I backed off from the goggle world and sold them. I saw an old message about somebody using the older version of the xReal glasses and they liked them. They improved them since. Now they are up to the xReal air 2 Pro. They come in two flavors, one with electronically controlled glass darkening, or you put a black clip on to mask outside light, less money. I opted for the electronically controlled version as you can still see your drone while you take off and such, then darken them as you fly about for better contrast. Technically, you would need a spotter at this point, but then again, the goggles have no capability to see out of. So I suspect the both methods put you technically out of VLOS, with the goggles from the gitgo.

I can be much smoother as I run my video tracks and the range is unaffected. The glasses simply plug into the USB-C port on the bottom of the RC Pro. It mirrors what you see on the screen. If you do not want data, then you need to use the HDMI out port and one of the many HDMI-USB-C converters. they run $40-$60 extra. I got the Xreal one, as it has its own internal power to run the glasses. The glasses run off the USB-C's output normally. HDMI does not supply power to the glasses, hence the adaptor. It does complicate your cabling a bit to go that route. Personally I just use the screen mirroring, since I like the grid Ines for reference.

Really the setup is not much more $$ than the goggles, but it is way cooler and works so much better.


2024-11-6
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StrengMa
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Dogpilot Posted at 11-6 17:38
I tried both types of DJI Goggles, the Goggles 2 and the Goggles Integra. Both are, well uncomfortable. They also make it so you need to use the motion controller and the not working with Enterprise drones as well. I had hoped to use them for rock wall inspections and finer control over my flight path with the Cine (I mainly use my two Enterprise drones 3T & 3E), which I use for fun. So I backed off from the goggle world and sold them. I saw an old message about somebody using the older version of the xReal glasses and they liked them. They improved them since. Now they are up to the xReal air 2 Pro. They come in two flavors, one with electronically controlled glass darkening, or you put a black clip on to mask outside light, less money. I opted for the electronically controlled version as you can still see your drone while you take off and such, then darken them as you fly about for better contrast. Technically, you would need a spotter at this point, but then again, the goggles have no capability to see out of. So I suspect the both methods put you technically out of VLOS, with the goggles from the gitgo.

I can be much smoother as I run my video tracks and the range is unaffected. The glasses simply plug into the USB-C port on the bottom of the RC Pro. It mirrors what you see on the screen. If you do not want data, then you need to use the HDMI out port and one of the many HDMI-USB-C converters. they run $40-$60 extra. I got the Xreal one, as it has its own internal power to run the glasses. The glasses run off the USB-C's output normally. HDMI does not supply power to the glasses, hence the adaptor. It does complicate your cabling a bit to go that route. Personally I just use the screen mirroring, since I like the grid Ines for reference.

Hello Dogpilot,
thank you for your long recommendation and the pictures. It was really a favour to read your expericence with the googles from DJI and the alternative from XReal.

If i get it right, the Xreal air 2 Pro could be a really good way for us as well.

I im not quite sure if a "full overhead" headset would immersive the way the pilot sees.
The Xreal is kind of mixed that the pilot have the chance to see around aswell.


Thank you
2024-11-6
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Dogpilot
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I found the goggles screen size to be similar to the glasses, but the glasses have better side vision. You need to make an effort to focus on the sides with the goggles. They were designed with drone racing in mind. I am a geologist and use them to look at stuff. Squinting at the tiny screen was not productive. This does work better. The goggles make balance standing more challenging and you really are better sitting using either. I would have to pull up the bottom of the goggles to get a bit of ground reference if I stood up. The glasses do not have that problem. The nose and cheek area get slightly painful after an hour and your neck can get tired. I wear a helmet when I operate regular aircraft in my work, as I am at low altitude. It is one I retained from the military, quite light and fits really well. It was custom and über expensive.  I wear stuff on my head a lot. Something about the goggles made me fell more fatigued than pulling g's back in the military wearing a helmet. Then again, personal experience may alter that from person to person.

Again, not working with the fEnterprise drones is the biggest fail, so how well the work is academic, leaving something like the glasses one of the few options. I tried casting from the controler to an iPad not a great solution either, aside from the latest updates rendered the unit I had unworkable on the iPad. There are lots of glasses out there, some may be cheaper or better. I chose these, since somebody actually used them with a drone. They also  have the advantage of working in an airplane on a flight, where you can sit back and rest while viewing a movie from your device. Instead of hunching over it and trying to see it on the tray table. Nothing to do with drones, but a nice option and second use.

Wearing goggles in the field:
2024-11-7
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StrengMa
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Dogpilot Posted at 11-7 08:08
I found the goggles screen size to be similar to the glasses, but the glasses have better side vision. You need to make an effort to focus on the sides with the goggles. They were designed with drone racing in mind. I am a geologist and use them to look at stuff. Squinting at the tiny screen was not productive. This does work better. The goggles make balance standing more challenging and you really are better sitting using either. I would have to pull up the bottom of the goggles to get a bit of ground reference if I stood up. The glasses do not have that problem. The nose and cheek area get slightly painful after an hour and your neck can get tired. I wear a helmet when I operate regular aircraft in my work, as I am at low altitude. It is one I retained from the military, quite light and fits really well. It was custom and über expensive.  I wear stuff on my head a lot. Something about the goggles made me fell more fatigued than pulling g's back in the military wearing a helmet. Then again, personal experience may alter that from person to person.

Again, not working with the fEnterprise drones is the biggest fail, so how well the work is academic, leaving something like the glasses one of the few options. I tried casting from the controler to an iPad not a great solution either, aside from the latest updates rendered the unit I had unworkable on the iPad. There are lots of glasses out there, some may be cheaper or better. I chose these, since somebody actually used them with a drone. They also  have the advantage of working in an airplane on a flight, where you can sit back and rest while viewing a movie from your device. Instead of hunching over it and trying to see it on the tray table. Nothing to do with drones, but a nice option and second use.

Hi Dogpilot,
you are amasing because of the effort you take with your posts.

It was a pleasure for me to read and understand your opinion on this case as a newby switching from Air 2S as factory drone to the 3E as Factory and Measurement of material soil based volume.

I will go with your recommendation and will order the glasses from xReal (the pro model).

Also thank you for your pictures. Amazing!


Greetings from germany
2024-11-8
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Dogpilot
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Very familiar with Germany, my brother was born in Würzburg, myself, I went to school in Zürich and eventually Italy. The 3E is very good at doing 3D modeling. Frankly I have done it with the 3T as well just to see the difference. The Thermal drone's images lack the precision of the 3E, so many types of analysis cannot be done. In my case, structure is what I look for, not so important. If you search about, I have found Agrisoft to work quite well and the personal edition works well and not too expensive. The professional version is literally 10x more expensive, but has far more features. Sadly, it is produced in Russia, which causes some issues in certain situations in the purchase on a corperate/government level due to embargo in certain countries. They do have some really good  programmers and mathematicians there, sad.

Your next fun step is getting navigation reference from a CORS/NTRIP or a portable caster. Really big can-o-worms there. In this image, I had to hike up to the volcano next to this volcano, carrying the portable RTK unit. No cell service, so no NTRIP.  It was only 39° at the time, good luck on your project:
2024-11-8
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StrengMa
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Dogpilot Posted at 11-8 07:44
Very familiar with Germany, my brother was born in Würzburg, myself, I went to school in Zürich and eventually Italy. The 3E is very good at doing 3D modeling. Frankly I have done it with the 3T as well just to see the difference. The Thermal drone's images lack the precision of the 3E, so many types of analysis cannot be done. In my case, structure is what I look for, not so important. If you search about, I have found Agrisoft to work quite well and the personal edition works well and not too expensive. The professional version is literally 10x more expensive, but has far more features. Sadly, it is produced in Russia, which causes some issues in certain situations in the purchase on a corperate/government level due to embargo in certain countries. They do have some really good  programmers and mathematicians there, sad.

Your next fun step is getting navigation reference from a CORS/NTRIP or a portable caster. Really big can-o-worms there. In this image, I had to hike up to the volcano next to this volcano, carrying the portable RTK unit. No cell service, so no NTRIP.  It was only 39° at the time, good luck on your project:

Hi Dogpilot.

Our Mavic 3E arrived yesterday and we are now in process with training plans for Pilots (me too) to C2 Level of EU regulations for pilots of drones.
We are in the middle of 3 RTK Stations at our factory. All round about 20-40km away to north, south and east from my location.
We will test if this works because its free to use the data here.
If its dont work, we would install a RTK station at the factory under 500m away.

Nice to hear that you know Würzburg and Germany.
i myself also lived 5 years in Würzburg but was born in northern germany and live now again in the north.
This was my first testattempt with Dronedeploy and the Air 2s with a Peat Production. It was quite accurate i would say 90-95% accuracy to the real volumina.


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