DJI   or member has  grayware FW V01.03.0309

and its  not out but DJI   is waiting for feedback JAn 2025

any info about the changes?

https://youtu.be/yIY05UsJ79g?si=9BAVLX4tNfMy1_3U

They didn't change anything. What a waste of time.
I should have bought a GoPro.

"Normal" is warmer and less saturated.
It's not what i hoped for, but at least it's something.

so do w ego t othe Youtuber and express to fix  it,  that he can get back to DJI, well they were told to test out and see what they think. but nothing of here was told at all

still no option to disable or at least reduce sharpening?

It's a real shame that he didn't compare the old and new firmware, but only compared the two modes of the new firmware. I have to say, though, that I like the neutral image better than the vivid one. The neutral image definitely has better skin tones and gives a more natural impression overall. What really bothers me about his videos, however, is the poor quality in which he uploads the videos, so that no conclusions can be drawn about the artifact problem. It remains to be seen what everyone ultimately thinks of the new firmware. Maybe I misunderstood it, but at the moment I think the changes only apply to the normal video mode. Neither to HLG nor to the LogM, which is a real shame for me, as I record everything in the LogM. Or did I just not listen to his English properly?

Maddin-6616 Posted at 1-2 06:17
It's a real shame that he didn't compare the old and new firmware, but only compared the two modes of the new firmware. I have to say, though, that I like the neutral image better than the vivid one. The neutral image definitely has better skin tones and gives a more natural impression overall. What really bothers me about his videos, however, is the poor quality in which he uploads the videos, so that no conclusions can be drawn about the artifact problem. It remains to be seen what everyone ultimately thinks of the new firmware. Maybe I misunderstood it, but at the moment I think the changes only apply to the normal video mode. Neither to HLG nor to the LogM, which is a real shame for me, as I record everything in the LogM. Or did I just not listen to his English properly?

i think vivid is the current mode and  natural is the more realistic look we all asked for. I would bet it applies to all modes so it will cover our needs i guess...

Hellboy6 Posted at 1-2 06:47
i think vivid is the current mode and  natural is the more realistic look we all asked for. I would bet it applies to all modes so it will cover our needs i guess...

your word in God's ear I hope the best for us

So what Did DJI say? on it   where is this firmware

Let's hope it arrives soon... i don't like the VIVID look

DJI could include some users also in these testings especially the ones complaining with the vivid hdr look to get feedbacks from the users…

I know I never asked for Vivid, and that Destroys the look I want more a naturalcolor, than Popping

Fishycomics Posted at 1-2 08:05
So what Did DJI say? on it   where is this firmware

Coming soon Fish by all accounts but still not what many were asking for I’d call it a tweak more than a fix based on this…

That youtuber Photorabz is dumb.
Their videos are wasted of time.
He doesnt properly test the camera due the lack of knowledge, or because is a Paid review never mention the flaws.

Heres the true about action cameras

BaynhamPhoto Posted at 1-2 11:46
Coming soon Fish by all accounts but still not what many were asking for I’d call it a tweak more than a fix based on this…
https://youtu.be/yIY05UsJ79g?si=hmb4CKYUAicdbUgS

thanks Byan..

No matter what DJI  will do   there will be a  person never  happy because they did not  get what they wanted.  DJI does not have to tell us but  I rather here from DJI then others

Neutral looks better than Vivid but the test is extremely limited to get a real good idea how much of a change it is

LOL now DJI is listening only youtubers on what basis. They should listen to the public not the youtubers.I am not against the you tubers but they should have good changes.

I wrote to this guy (photorabz). He sees no problems with the camera. For him, brightness jumps and vignetting do not exist. He does not shoot in D-log m, only in normal 10 bits. DJI knows who to send cameras to for testing with new firmware. The problem of brightness jumps and vignetting with D-log M is ignored by DJI.

Supsss3 Posted at 1-2 23:37
I wrote to this guy (photorabz). He sees no problems with the camera. For him, brightness jumps and vignetting do not exist. He does not shoot in D-log m, only in normal 10 bits. DJI knows who to send cameras to for testing with new firmware. The problem of brightness jumps and vignetting with D-log M is ignored by DJI.

I wrote to photorabz has well
He also told me, he dont see problems with the camera

He's the type of YouTuber Chris Rogers mention in is video, guys showing images of the action cameras while walking to the city...useless content.

Its worth to watch Dcrainmaker or Chris Rogers youtube channels because they properly test the action cameras without being sponsored by some specific brand.
Hey Chris even post RAW videos in dropbox link so that users compare all 3 camera by themselves.

More and more convinced that Action 5 is the beta version for Action 6. But keep in mind DJI that frustrated users won't necessarily buy next model just because you will fix elementary functions that shouldn't be broken at all.

DJI say that the wobbling dark bits is a ‘normal’ phenomenon caused by the wide angle lens so I doubt that’s been changed. They also felt that the exposure wandering was ‘normal’ so again, I doubt it. The 'trumpet' flare is the lens, so that won't be changed either.

I noticed that the strength of hdr adjustment changed between 'normal' and 'vivid' in the sky and halos were missing in the trees. So that's been tweaked, but I don't think Photorabz sees the darkening on the edges with movement and so far, no mention of ISO ranges.

Personally, I still feel that the Action 4 is the 'sweet spot'; especially at the price.

I agree the video photorabz shared is not the best to check the new fw.
When it's raining the HDR effect is limited. You need sunny days , blue sky , trees and grass.

But i have noticed some improvements
his face is not as red as the vivid fw, that's good
grass is less 'brilliant saturated' and leaves are less reddish

Given this is not the production fw, maybe they will tweak it better because they should make DLOG-M + LUT consistent across all the line ( drones , action cams, pocket cams ) otherwise there is no point in buying DJI products to have matching results.

My Mavic 3 Classic and Osmo Pocket3 give me consistent results, Action 5 Pro is more like a cartoon.
So, let's see if they will answer otherwise if OA5 is the new DJI color technology... i will switch brand ...

And, DJI please give forum users the chance to partecipate beta testing
people writing here are the most interested in helping fixing problems, since they PAID for the products.

And don't let us wait forever.... thank you

Nando Diver Posted at 1-2 23:52
I wrote to photorabz has well
He also told me, he dont see problems with the camera

Many of us users here on the forum do our own tests or together to find solution and discover problems.
I have watched quite many videos from that photorabz guy and for me he is not truthworty with his "tests". And I'm not saying he is a paid reviewer, but he get stuff for free from other companies.

Iancraig10 Posted at 1-3 02:12
DJI say that the wobbling dark bits is a ‘normal’ phenomenon caused by the wide angle lens so I doubt that’s been changed. They also felt that the exposure wandering was ‘normal’ so again, I doubt it. The 'trumpet' flare is the lens, so that won't be changed either.

I noticed that the strength of hdr adjustment changed between 'normal' and 'vivid' in the sky and halos were missing in the trees. So that's been tweaked, but I don't think Photorabz sees the darkening on the edges with movement and so far, no mention of ISO ranges.

I haven't updated yet as I'm writing this, but will after. Haven't had any time and light to do some tests on my own. But I do think that Action 6 will come soon and it will be like 4 with best part from 5. For now I use Action 5 most because of no sun and proper daylight. And I plan to buy Action 6 when released.

Grayware  v01.03.0309 is by the Mimo App which is WRONG,  official fwV01.03.02.10 is by the Mimo App which is WRONG the testers must have the Bin file for both. or DJI  should just send a grayware cameras.

DJI  will not get this grayware dome correctly if they   can not allow back and fourth firmware swaps.

DJI should focus on increasing image quality than mushy look. Just stop releasing firmware after after firware with no major changes. Choose wisely what you are working on and from whom to takes feedback....Wondering how you choose PHOTOBAZ for your firmware reivew.

  can only improve then  be ruined and DJI best offer a reversion when today releases, only   the people in the community will get upset not many outside

DJi  can we hear some input  here to test if need be

anything DJI that song playing   Hello darkness my ole friend

guess DJI answers in 48 hours if they like

From my testing and comparing the same shot against a Sony FX30, the biggest issues with the footage, in order, were:

• Exposure target was too bright, and it would prioritize face exposure in the Normal color profile in a very strange way.
• Colors were very oversaturated, even if you used D Log M.
• White balance was WAY too cool, making greys actually become shades of blue. Also, the green/magenta tint was just slightly too magenta.
• Even after white balance, blues are more saturated than other colors.
• Gamma curve seems to need some tweaking.
  

When people want to be able to "disable HDR" these are mostly the things they're actually running into. If I manually corrected the above issues, I got footage that was shockingly comparable to my FX30. Most people don't have a FX30 to reference for every scene though, which is why we really need these aspects tuned.

Assuming these new "tone" options also apply to DLog-M (which also exhibited these issues), this should be a pretty good step forwards since it will hopefully improve #2 and #3 on that list. You can see in the video above already that the blue cast over the image is significantly reduced with the Neutral tone. It looks like the slight magenta tint is still there, though, but that was much less of an issue than the WB temperature. #1 can be manually avoided by just lowering the exposure target and avoiding the Normal color profile. That only leaves #4 and #5, which are more nitpicking than major dealbreakers, and may be properties of the sensor/lens.

Here's a quick example showing what happens if you reduce the overall saturation, greatly reduce the saturation of blues, adjust the white balance, and slightly bump up the gamma:

Also, I'm genuinely a novice when it comes to color science, so certainly a professional could better unpack this than me, and if I can tell there's fixable problems then it just goes to show how bad it is.

A screenshot from the above video that illustrates the differences pretty well:



Just look at the massive difference in cloud shadow detail in the top left.

I'm looking forward to this update. While I don't think either lean towards truly neutral, at least we have choices now. The one labeled "Neutral" is definitely warmer, but has the characteristic oddities of the Osmo Action 5. The one labeled "Vivid" looks much more like the Osmo Action 4. I suspect most people will prefer the image on the right.

djiuser_LwyoNpTKujE3 Posted at 1-6 17:39
A screenshot from the above video that illustrates the differences pretty well:

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Yes, I prefer the image on the right. The cloud detail is a lot better which has been a common criticism of the OA5's image and in all honesty has allowed me to pick out which video is from the Action 5 in virtually every "Guess which camera is which" video I have seen on YouTube.

Actually I don't dislike the OA5's image quality (accepting it's other noted issues) as I only really shoot for HDR but it would be nice to be able to match it better with the video I shoot on my Action 4.

well   only a select few and DJI is still not releasing or coming forward

I think they are making confusion with the names
the new VIVID should be the NORMAL,
the NORMAL should be the VIVID/TONE MAPPING one , because it's not HDR ( we have HLG for that )
but simply tone mapping like when you try to obtain HDR from AEB photos.

I am wondering if the same (vivid) lut can apply to both DLOG-M profiles as well.

Hope DJI needs more time to do things properly.