Why is it "not recommended" to carry payload with the Inspire1?
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Machoman
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The manual says its not recommended to carry payload.

Why?

The Inspire with TB48 and X3 has 3kg.

The E800 propulsion system can carry 8,4kg.

The E800 propulsion system says of itself: The E800 Motor Package is DJI’s newest masterpiece, a fine tuned propulsion system specifically engineered for multi-rotor copters weighing 3-5 kg.

Even at a 50% thrust quote the Inspire could still take 1,2 kg payload.

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8 kg is total maximum thrust, you don't want to be close to that, as you will barely lift off..
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First Inspire 1 platform in not made for it,  second, having different payload you have to do PID tuning to make the aircraft stable, and not lose altitude, which is not possible on inspire
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While it probably doesn't classify as payload, I did see a cool video of an I1 delivering a thin string to a family stranded in floodwaters.  Once they received the string from the aircraft, they pulled a larger line across the floodwaters and made it to safety.  DJI should look into this and consider using it as marketing.
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DJI-Tim Posted at 2015-10-14 12:37
First Inspire 1 platform in not made for it,  second, having different payload you have to do PID tu ...

Thanks for answering.

How does the Inspire then do this with the  0,4 kg more weight when the X5 + new mounting plate is installed to it? I am speaking of the normal Inspire not the pro.
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Machoman Posted at 2015-10-15 00:52
Thanks for answering.

How does the Inspire then do this with the  0,4 kg more weight when the X5  ...

And further, how would the Inspire fly with no camera vs. the X3 vs. X5? Those are three different weight settings. I've also seen plenty of videos where people have stuck GoPro cameras to it, that adds extra weight.
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I have tried attaching bike flood light to the inspire's arm and the battery was near the top. It flied fine but I noticed the flight time was shorter (Duh) and worst is that one of the engines became noticeable warmer than the rest. Inspire 1 Is fast and agile filming drone, basically it was designed to balance itself and it's weight but no more.
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shayd93@gmail.c Posted at 2015-10-14 21:13
I have tried attaching bike flood light to the inspire's arm and the battery was near the top. It fl ...

Yes the flight time decreases dramatically if what you add is anything else then batteries.
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Machoman Posted at 2015-10-14 15:44
Yes the flight time decreases dramatically if what you add is anything else then batteries.

And even then the more you add the flight time increases less because batteries are heavy as hell. Look at Spreading Wings, the biggest battery weighs over 2600g A Brick so big you could use it as murder weapon.
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Weight and Balance is critical in any aircraft. It is not only the weight. Even being able to lift the weight, if the balance is not in the evenlope of the aircraft, it can stall in any turn or hard turn or even not flight at all.
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I agree better to stay careful with the balance. However it cannot be balanced with the X3 and balanced with the X5. So there must be some considerable tolerance.

But should the E800 propulsion system not detect any unbalancing and correct the motors accordingly? I dont know its a real question.
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This would be a good combo..
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PaulKerry Posted at 2015-10-14 06:04
Brilliant !!!

Do you have the link to the video? I'd love to add that to my collection of "Inspir ...

Paul,
It's on youtube.  Type in Search and Inspire 1 Search and Rescue Maine US.  I will go now and look, but I am almost out of time for the morning and have to get off to earn more I1 money!

Chris

Found it:  
The specific part RE the flood starts at about 2:45

It's pretty cool.
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Farnk666 Posted at 2015-10-15 08:26
This would be a good combo..

Already ordered!
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Machoman Posted at 2015-10-14 15:44
Yes the flight time decreases dramatically if what you add is anything else then batteries.

I added I front nose camera and it takes away about 6 min of flight time when on.
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PaulKerry Posted at 2015-10-15 15:02
Thanks, Chris.

Seeing them used this way really puts a smile on my face. Search and Rescue was one ...

Paul,
Glad you enjoyed it and happier yet that the drone community can see benefit from our hobby.  Best Wishes.

Chris
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Hterag
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That's a very interesting idea, Paul. I think I'll try the same thing once I get my certification.
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PaulKerry Posted at 2015-10-15 21:02
Thanks, Chris.

Seeing them used this way really puts a smile on my face. Search and Rescue was one ...

Paul,

You do realise that your UAV commercial insurance probably has a clause in it that prevents you using the UAV for emergency services on a commercial basis, so if you did use it for the police or other service you would not be insured therefore your commercial license would be invalid if you have managed to get your License now.
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naildrivingman@ Posted at 2015-10-14 03:48
While it probably doesn't classify as payload, I did see a cool video of an I1 delivering a thin str ...

Wow that is cool.
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naildrivingman@ Posted at 2015-10-15 03:51
Paul,
It's on youtube.  Type in Search and Inspire 1 Search and Rescue Maine US.  I will go now and ...

Thanks for the link. Great video. I have seen it before.
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Farnk666 Posted at 2015-10-14 17:26
This would be a good combo..

LOL..........
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Machoman Posted at 2015-10-14 09:52
Thanks for answering.

How does the Inspire then do this with the  0,4 kg more weight when the X5  ...

It can handle small differences in weight and balance.
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Machoman Posted at 2015-10-14 16:53
I agree better to stay careful with the balance. However it cannot be balanced with the X3 and balan ...

Yes there is a tolerance.
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Hterag Posted at 2015-10-14 11:35
And further, how would the Inspire fly with no camera vs. the X3 vs. X5? Those are three different ...

It can handle small differences in weight and balance.
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PaulKerry Posted at 2015-10-16 20:43
Wow...!

No. I didn't...

Paul,

I fully understand and agree with your comments.  

If I was asked by the Police to help search for a missing kid, I would obviously do so provided I had clarified with them that in doing so I would not have any public liability insurance.  If they were to give me an order as a Police Officer,  I would have to obey their wishes, but as a consequence they would take on board any liability.  

I just wanted to make you aware of  the conditions of some Commercial Insurance Policies which have these clauses.   Normally also infers to and restricts any operations offshore.

As  a Parent myself, I would not hesitate to help another parent or the Police to help search for a missing child, which is what any decent human being would do.  I think you still have a duty of care though to highlight any insurance issues to the Police and let them make that final decision.  

At the end of the day, the Police do have access to helicopters fitted with thermal cameras, which are far more useful than a UAV.  However, I do agree, they could be helpful in certain circumstances.
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Machoman
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If you have an insurance only for a specific plane yes.

I have a general insurance which covers flying anything without rocket propulsion up to 40kg. I could built the plane my own. Its valid for private and business. Only inside buildings there is a weight limit of 3kg.
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Machoman
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Seems to be heavy payload

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I would never fly myself commercially under my name and be personally responsible for it. I dont fly commercially for now but if I ever would I would do it only for a corporation registered somewhere where is no drone law and where fines from other countries can only be executed for "crimes" which are also considered as a crime at local law. All contracts signed obviousely by the corporation only.


In other words if I would fly over New York and get a 1,9 Mio fine only for that without having created an accident they could probably not let me in the country again if they even could find out who was flying which is unlikely but they have no way to execute the fine. However as often said I am for responsible flying and would never fly over city centers.
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