After flying RC for over 40 years and quadcopters for 10 of those years and generally the drone hobby being not liked by many people and governments trying to ban it it is important that people in the hobby do what they can to save the hobby.

The introduction of cheaper equipment is good and brings more people into the hobby. The nature of FPV however is that you tend to fly fast and low. When in stabalised gps mode this is ok I feel because it is easy to stop, hover and not cause mayhem, speeds are also restricted. In so called manual mode this is not true and speeds are very fast and everyone that ever tries it will crash and some will of course hit people and property, it is statistically a fact.

Many on here have already openly demonstrated how stupid, childish and irresponsibly they are and think manual mode is some kind of badge of honour.

In my view manual mode is a retrograde step, brings nothing to the hobby and will end up with it being banned in many places.

I therefore ask DJI to remove this manual mode feature from all of their drones.

Hi Bigplumbs , we truly apologize for the inconvenience caused. If you have any further questions or concerns, please do not hesitate  to contact our online service, you could also visit : https://www.dji.com/support?site=brandsite&from=nav.

DJI Gamora Posted at 3-5 21:51
Hi Bigplumbs , thank you for sharing your feedback and suggestions with us. We truly value your input and will ensure that it is promptly forwarded to the appropriate team for careful consideration. If you have any further questions or needs, please feel free to reach out. We are dedicated to providing you with the support you deserve. Wishing you a wonderful day ahead !

Gamora thanks for confirming us that you don't read the comments that people post on the forum

The thing here is not to have medals, the thing here is that you don't understand that the stabilized modes and the motion controller are never going to allow you to fly with the same freedom movement as the manual mode. You have more chances to crash your drone? Yes, that's right, but a lot of users here aren't so lazy as you to practise on the simulator

Fozando Posted at 3-5 22:10
The thing here is not to have medals, the thing here is that you don't understand that the stabilized modes and the motion controller are never going to allow you to fly with the same freedom movement as the manual mode. You have more chances to crash our drone? Yes, that's right, but a lot of users here aren't so lazy as you to practise on the simulator

Hi Fozando, we truly apologize for the confusion made. If you have any further questions or concerns, please do not hesitate  to contact our online service, you could also visit : https://www.dji.com/support?site=brandsite&from=nav.

I think with the Neo it at least should be hidden somewhere

Montfrooij Posted at 3-6 00:31
I think with the Neo it at least should be hidden somewhere

It already is,   you have to buy a special controller for it and then you get many warnings.  

Fozando Posted at 3-5 22:07
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, BigPlumbs remember the stone and the stone and the stone and the stone and the stone....

I can't believe what I just read.  

DAFlys Posted at 3-6 01:22
I can't believe what I just read.

Coming from BigPlumbs, what could you expect?

DJI Gamora Posted at 3-5 22:56
Hi Fozando, we truly apologize for the confusion made. If you have any further questions or concerns, please do not hesitate  to contact our online service, you could also visit : https://www.dji.com/support?site=brandsite&from=nav.

What confusion Gamora?

DJI should create that version for the new FPV models and call it "Fly Lazy Combo"

DAFlys Posted at 3-6 01:22
It already is,   you have to buy a special controller for it and then you get many warnings.

Oh ok, no experience with the neo obviously

Remove N mode

Manual mode is a user selected option.  If you have no desire to fly M mode just stick with MC3 and/or don't set up the RC3 for manual mode.  As is by not physically setting up M mode you cannot get access to it. In a way it is child proof to set up RC3 to manual mode.  

For the children or old guys and anyone else that cannot or will not fly manual mode N or S mode is fine.  Why deprive those of us who have different goals, desires...  If anything to "keep things safe" DJI could but I hope never do put such severe restrictions on the flight behavior to prevent the number of issues that some DJI fliers cause and the rest of us get lumped into.  

Here's the problem.  If you start flying with a GPS drone, your controller inputs are just a re positioning. The bad habit gets instilled so quick. The other problem, in GPS mode, when you tilt the drone, it automatically adds throttle to start the maneuver. In manual mode, you have to add throttle or the drone won't move, it will just fall. So, all this going on is more difficult to overcome if you start flying in GPS mode. Not to say Manual Mode can't be mastered, but it's more difficult to learn with a GPS drone. Yes, in manual mode you will have more crashes. It's just like a race car driver pushes their limits on the track compared to driving down I-95 at 55, ok maybe 80. The problem with the Neo is it's short coupled and does require a little more skill compared to any longer FPV drone. The other issue is it's a little under powered but easy to overcome. And last, for the folks that find it difficult in Manual Mode, start working with your rates. There are many good videos that can help but basically one must know what each of the settings do. The way to know this is to try a few things. Center Sensitivity is how fast the drone will maneuver.  Start low like 100, 120 while removing max rate or lower it to 20 I think that's the lowest max rate. That number is how fast the drone moves per second. The end of your stick maneuver will be the same rate as the beginning of your stick maneuver. Once you have Center sensitivity at a number you feel you can fly, then start bringing up your max rate. This is basically how much the drone maneuvers near the end of the stick limit. It's just like Expo. Nothing more to it.  Wouldn't worry about expo because Max rate adjustment is more important to learn and it's just another way to think of expo. Think if the expo setting of how much dead band you will have near the middle of the sticks.  For the price of entry, the Neo is a great start but as I said, it also creates bad habits quickly.

Have a feeling that some or maybe many DJI users have never flown anything but stabilized DJI platforms.  Nothing wrong with that.  Just a choice.  But with that comes no stick time as Darmie noted above to know how to modulate and coordinate throttle input.  Even angle mode requires throttle modulation in other non stabilized drones.  Why even taking off and landing in angle mode is beyond some.  

And as Darmie noted. Manual mode (aka rate mode) is a significantly different beast than S mode (stabilized angle mode).  If unwilling to crash trash your Neo learning to fly manual mode.  Consider a sim.  Purchase a ~$25-50 ready to fly no stabilized los indoors toy quad to learn to fly angle mode.  Between the two with a bit of time and effort you should be able to fly basic manual mode.  

OldGuy2024 Posted at 3-6 06:52
Have a feeling that some or maybe many DJI users have never flown anything but stabilized DJI platforms.  Nothing wrong with that.  Just a choice.  But with that comes no stick time as Darmie noted above to know how to modulate and coordinate throttle input.  Even angle mode requires throttle modulation in other non stabilized drones.  Why even taking off and landing in angle mode is beyond some.  

And as Darmie noted. Manual mode (aka rate mode) is a significantly different beast than S mode (stabilized angle mode).  If unwilling to crash trash your Neo learning to fly manual mode.  Consider a sim.  Purchase a ~$25-50 ready to fly no stabilized los indoors toy quad to learn to fly angle mode.  Between the two with a bit of time and effort you should be able to fly basic manual mode.

That's the point OldGuy2024

Bigplumbs Posted at 3-6 09:14

You forgot to mention "2 more points on my pocket, maaaaaaan"

Guys, just report him already for spam and trolling, he already started spamming forum with his broken thought's...
(I already reported him) Cuz there's no sense having a discussion with someone like him. Probably he exactly knows the difference with flying mc3 and fpv, maybe he even know how to fly in manual mode, but he is a person who feeds on rage of others. So don't let him.

TheSkyIsForYou Posted at 3-6 15:43
Guys, just report him already for spam and trolling, he already started spamming forum with his broken thought's...
(I already reported him) Cuz there's no sense having a discussion with someone like him. Probably he exactly knows the difference with flying mc3 and fpv, maybe he even know how to fly in manual mode, but he is a person who feeds on rage of others. So don't let him.

He's probably just still in a state of elation after going out with his friend that has 40 + years of RC experience. And then experiencing life changing calm, relaxed, euphoric, magic wand wiggling moments that they do together.

@MC-Plumbs
I think it would add more weight to your point if your gentleman friend also joined this forum and confirmed his consensual participation in the joy that you described?

Fozando Posted at 3-6 05:42
Coming from BigPlumbs, what could you expect?

Well. that went too far.  

DAFlys Posted at 3-7 02:11
Well. that went too far.

The problem is that the hate is the only motivation that he has to publish all these threads

I DO NOT think dji needs to get rid of m mode as that is how you can get COOL videos at high speeds and the adrenaline rush is great to.just saying.

Fozando Posted at 3-7 02:15
The problem is that the hate is the only motivation that he has to publish all these threads

There there let’s not get upset about a drone. We all do have our different opinions.

Warren S Posted at 3-17 06:55
There there let’s not get upset about a drone. We all do have our different opinions.

Welcome Warren,

These messages from Bigplumbs come from a long debate in which he has shown he has no arguments to defend some of the ideas he shared in different forum threads, and that's why he hates manual mode so much.

Warren S Posted at 3-17 06:51
I DO NOT think dji needs to get rid of m mode as that is how you can get COOL videos at high speeds and the adrenaline rush is great to.just saying.

DJI isn't going to delete the manual mode, it would be like give a shot in its own foot

Warren S Posted at 3-17 06:51
I DO NOT think dji needs to get rid of m mode as that is how you can get COOL videos at high speeds and the adrenaline rush is great to.just saying.

Hi there, thank you for reaching out and sharing your feedback. We really appreciate your advice and we'll make sure to pass it on to the right team for review. We're always striving to make things better and better, so please stay tuned to the latest news on our DJI official website at www.dji.com. Thank you so much for your understanding and support!

Fozando Posted at 3-17 07:14
Welcome Warren,

These messages from Bigplumbs come from a long debate in which he has shown he has no arguments to defend some of the ideas he shared in different forum threads, and that's why he hates manual mode so much.

Oh I see. I guess I have not read his other threads.

Fozando Posted at 3-17 07:15
DJI isn't going to delete the manual mode, it would be like give a shot in its own foot

Ya I think that to.

DJI Natalia Posted at 3-17 10:41
Hi there, thank you for reaching out and sharing your feedback. We really appreciate your advice and we'll make sure to pass it on to the right team for review. We're always striving to make things better and better, so please stay tuned to the latest news on our DJI official website at www.dji.com. Thank you so much for your understanding and support!

Alrighty and thank you

Warren S Posted at 3-17 11:22
Oh I see. I guess I have not read his other threads.

Don't waste your time reading those messages. You are not going to learn anything new

Fozando Posted at 3-17 12:24
Don't waste your time reading those messages. You are not going to learn anything new

But....but.....but...the Motion Controller is THE FUTURE of FPV!!!

Exiled FPV Posted at 3-17 13:03
But....but.....but...the Motion Controller is THE FUTURE of FPV!!!

Yes, in a parallel world.

Exiled FPV Posted at 3-17 13:03
But....but.....but...the Motion Controller is THE FUTURE of FPV!!!

The ONLY possible future!!!

Question:

Does the motion controller vibrate??

Perhaps that's why he likes it so much....

Burt37 Posted at 3-17 14:32
The ONLY possible future!!!

Question:

Look up Mr Steele Expectations exceeded on YouTube!!

Warren S Posted at 3-17 11:24
Alrighty and thank you

You're most welcome and do not hesitate to contact us back if there's any further inquiry.

Thank you for your support!

Exiled FPV Posted at 3-17 14:50
Look up Mr Steele Expectations exceeded on YouTube!!

You mean this one:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/83foVDSg2OY

Burt37 Posted at 3-18 03:45
You mean this one:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/83foVDSg2OY

That's an upvote for ya.
"Breath in the glory!"

Bigplumbs Posted at 3-6 09:14

Retarded troll post...

pysche Posted at 3-18 04:55
Retarded troll post...

I agree your post was certainly both of those