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I am a happy owner of a P3 Pro, considering an Inspire 1 Pro because it's a pretty cool drone.  I would like to do a little photography but not for commercial.

1.  In the U.S., what's the best place to buy one online?
2.  Prop locks and spare battery - do I need anything else?

Thanks!

2015-10-23
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I bought the pro wished i hadnt
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I would purchase the inspire 1. If you aren't going professional there is no need to upgrade spending thousands more. This is for the guy that makes a living shooting video/photos. I purchased my inspire 1 3 months ago and I love it! In fact I just came in from flying. What a beautiful tool and enjoyment!
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Please consider us for your purchase. We will do everything we can to take care of you

There are no prop locks anymore, the new quick release system did away with that. You just need extra batteries.
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I think the inspire 1 v2 is the way to go if your not filming professional.  It has the new prop locks and motors etc..  I was thinking about the pro as well however it seems their is a big learning curve on the new camera.  
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kgarrison@gmail Posted at 2015-11-12 03:57
Please consider us for your purchase. We will do everything we can to take care of you

There are no ...

Are the Inspire Pros you sell still from the first batch with the old WM6101410 model or already the new with the double range WM6101510 version. I hope you know what I am speaking about.
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Machoman Posted at 2015-11-12 15:43
Are the Inspire Pros you sell still from the first batch with the old WM6101410 model or already t ...

May I ask, What is the difference?

I'm also in the market for a Inspire 1 V2 or pro (waiting on X5R) and would NOT want to get the lower grade version.
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teamnest1 Posted at 2015-11-13 00:06
May I ask, What is the difference?

I'm also in the market for a Inspire 1 V2 or pro (waiting on X ...

The difference is you may have noticed (or not as this happend surprisingly silent ) that DJI last week changed the specs for ALL !! Inspire1 versions from range 2km to range 5km


This is due to changed hardware. The new Inspire versions are WM6101510 and have ~29,7 dBm peak output while the old version WM6101410 has about ~24 dBm. Same with the RC as the old 658B has ~12 dBm AVG and the 658C has ~16 dBm AVG transmission output.


Simply the WM6101510 has more then double range. You can find this number in each Inspire at the bottom of the battery slot.
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Machoman Posted at 2015-11-12 19:16
The difference is you may have noticed (or not as this happend surprisingly silent ) that DJI las ...

I just bought the pro but unfortunately it's the older version, this is the second time I got boned first time was when I bought the phantom 2 v3 for 1400. Then a month later they came out with th phantom 3
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Richardrambone Posted at 2015-11-14 15:01
I just bought the pro but unfortunately it's the older version, this is the second time I got bone ...

I have heard of successful reclamations as it does not meet the specs - try to fly 5km......
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Machoman Posted at 2015-11-13 08:16
The difference is you may have noticed (or not as this happend surprisingly silent ) that DJI las ...

I have to disagree with your comments about twice the range. I have both V1 and Pro and under ideal conditions flying high above trees,  I can get slightly past 4km before the video signal breakup is bad enough to make it very unsafe to fly. For both craft, the signal performance isn't noticeably different.

As your sample size is n=2 I don't think you should make sweeping statements. The model number difference can reflect the change in motors. If DJI improved the electronics substantially, it would make marketing sense to announce this.
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Mike-the-cat Posted at 2015-11-16 06:11
I have to disagree with your comments about twice the range. I have both V1 and Pro and under idea ...

The model number differences between WM6101410 and WM 6101510 reflect a different FCC registration and the differences I pointed out are written in the FCC compliance reports.

If there is NO difference between your V1 and your Pro - then you probably got a V1 sold as Pro which you can easily proove looking for the model number written in the battery slot.

That there are so many different flying distances reported for WM6101410 models is ........... well just interesting. Some cannot even fly 1,5km others like you 4km.
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Machoman Posted at 2015-11-16 21:31
The model number differences between WM6101410 and WM 6101510 reflect a different FCC registration ...

Ok you are correct about the model number plate. I will write DJi directly. I wondered about transmit power from the start. I believe the initial spec was under-rated. This said  it makes no sense to file a FCC compliance note unless there was a change in hardware. There is also a different model number for the transmitter - what do you think of that?
All said, I'm not unhappy with the new craft. Flies well
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The 658C RC has also 4 dBm more power then 658B. So with the new RC and the old plane your range will be somewhere between. As far as I know - however DJI support can correct me - the WM 6101410 is not produced anymore and was only use for the first batch of Pros.
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Machoman Posted at 2015-11-17 20:18
The 658C RC has also 4 dBm more power then 658B. So with the new RC and the old plane your range wil ...

I'm curious, you have such detailed knowledge - are you an electrical engineer?  I've written DJI support. The Pro with a X5 can't go out 5km anyways unless you just want to zip to your destination and back or risk losing an expensive craft. The longest flight I've flown is around 8.7 km round trip (down to 19%) - so perhaps at a push one could do 9+ km. I don't think many people would want to try this. With the X3 I've flown 10.1km total distance. Like I said, under ideal conditions (calm, clear skies, perfect unobstructed line of sight) I can go to 4.1km with video feed on Ch 20. However, the same craft in farm country elsewhere I could only go 1.5k before signal blanked (I suspect a strong RF source) in one of the houses. So there are many variables to consider. It certainly makes good sense to have some headroom especially if there are trees around.
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Mike-the-cat Posted at 2015-11-17 16:39
I'm curious, you have such detailed knowledge - are you an electrical engineer?  I've written DJI s ...

No - I just know radio waves follow an inverse square law for power density: the power density is proportional to the inverse square of the distance. Every time you double the distance, you receive only one-fourth the power. In decibels per milliwatt, this means that every 6 dBm increase in output power results in a doubling of the possible distance that is achievable.

However the point is not necessarily to fly 5km away its more the stronger signal will also help in unfavourable environment.
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Good point!
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I was an early adopter and have the old version of the copter and a new version of the RC . . . .

I purchased from Heliguy in the UK; I'll check what their view of this issue is and report back.
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Richardrambone Posted at 2015-11-11 19:05
I bought the pro wished i hadnt

May I ask why Richard?
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The best place to purchase one? We all have our favorite Dealers. There are many reputable Dealers that handle DJI Products. I would stick with one that provides service and is knowledgeable in the use of the Inspire. I wouldn't go with a big box store for the simple reason that they lack the above. You want a Dealer where you can call and talk to a human being and is friendly.
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rodger Posted at 2015-11-18 14:59
May I ask why Richard?

Well for one the battery life is only about 12 minutes with the heavier camera, the image quality is virtually the same as the x3 and its $2500.00 more. It's a nicer set up than the original inspire 1 but not $2500.00 nicer.
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Richardrambone Posted at 2015-11-18 15:15
Well for one the battery life is only about 12 minutes with the heavier camera, the image quality  ...

Have you tried the TB 48 Battery? IN using that the flight time is supposed to be 20 minutes? 12 minutes is not very long at all.
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rodger Posted at 2015-11-19 13:30
Have you tried the TB 48 Battery? IN using that the flight time is supposed to be 20 minutes? 12 m ...

Yes I have tried the Tb-48 and if you fly easy you get 15 minutes flying time but that's taking it down to 10 percent. Dji should include the Tb 48 instead of the 47 with the pro version in the first place, but they make a buch of money on these lipo batteries, I mean come on 200 bucks for a 5700mah battery? I battery that size should be 50 bucks tops.
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Richardrambone Posted at 2015-11-20 03:19
Yes I have tried the Tb-48 and if you fly easy you get 15 minutes flying time but that's taking it ...

I think the decision to ship with a TB 47 IN Craft is related to air carriage rules by IATA in part and for profit / pricing reasons too (of course. this is a business).

I think flyers should think about flight time in terms of 'functional flight time' the way you would if you were running an airliner. For me, with new TB47s the functional flight time of a pro is between 10.5 and 11 minutes and for a TB48 between 13.0 to 13.5 minutes. This will give a little margin of safety and frankly its far more enjoyable to fly without stressing yourself by setting reasonable expectations.

I think real pros who make a living will keep multiple packs and fly relatively short flights because they know what they want to get and can acquire the desired shot efficiently.
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Richardrambone Posted at 2015-11-19 14:19
Yes I have tried the Tb-48 and if you fly easy you get 15 minutes flying time but that's taking it ...

Interesting and thanks for the reply. On the price you have to remember that is not your ordinary Li-Po. It is a smart battery in that there are electronics in the unit for the power indicator both in the battery and the Go program. There are other functions that are performed also. a bit pricy, maybe. I don't have an issue with the pricing. I was more concerned as to why you were disappointed and now I know your thoughts. Thank you.
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Mike-the-cat Posted at 2015-11-19 23:15
I think the decision to ship with a TB 47 IN Craft is related to air carriage rules by IATA in part ...

Mike, true on the shipping via Air. I would imagine that they come to the US via Container Ship?
I have 4-5 Batteries for all of my DJI Quads I have never had a problem of having a battery go flat on me in the middle of a flight due to the fact that I tend to keep my Quad in sight. For me it is to nerve racking to have it out of sight. Thanks for your thoughts.
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rodger Posted at 2015-11-21 23:14
Mike, true on the shipping via Air. I would imagine that they come to the US via Container Ship?
I ...

Looks like you are a safe and happy flier. Cheers and to many many more flights!
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Mike-the-cat Posted at 2015-11-21 10:57
Looks like you are a safe and happy flier. Cheers and to many many more flights!

Thanks Mike, I am and I do enjoy it. I have always used DJI products from the beginning.A Quad is the only thing I can fly without crashing. Safe, just common sense I guess?
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Mike-the-cat Posted at 2015-11-21 10:57
Looks like you are a safe and happy flier. Cheers and to many many more flights!

Thanks Mike, I am and I do enjoy it. I have always used DJI products from the beginning.A Quad is the only thing I can fly without crashing. Safe, just common sense I guess?
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I have a 1410 V1 inspire Pro sold as a v.2 .. i can only go up to 12 mins with a TB48 with the X5 on it....
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Cata Posted at 2015-11-21 17:54
I have a 1410 V1 inspire Pro sold as a v.2  .. i can only go up to 12 mins with a TB48 with the X5 ...

Cata, seems like the consensus is about that mark. I have no idea as to what is eating up the current in the battery. I am sure that DJI is looking at the issue.
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I guess that the short time flight is also because i dont have the upgraded motors on my inspire pro.
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The motors are identical as the motors from my old inspire. The only difference is the QR systems....
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Richardrambone Posted at 2015-11-18 15:15
Well for one the battery life is only about 12 minutes with the heavier camera, the image quality  ...

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Cata Posted at 2015-11-22 06:54
I have a 1410 V1 inspire Pro sold as a v.2  .. i can only go up to 12 mins with a TB48 with the X5 ...

There is NOTHING wrong with a 1410 Inspire. The motors (assuming you got a genuine product) have been refreshed but the main benefit is quick release props).  If its an old TB48 you are using and you fly down to 30% (and not 15%) 12min + is not unusual. You have not been cheated. Enjoy your purchase.

The material about the transmit power and such is incorrect. Transmit power variations are mandated by territory. EU flyers are shipped systems with less power.
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DJI online store does not ship TB48's by air anymore and they have been taken out of the online store for ? a month. The official reason is that there is too much hassle with clearance with customs over 'hazardous cargo'.
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