Can not record with P3A
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rene.vandermeer
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This afternoon I had problems recording video on my P3A (App: 2.4.2, RC: 1.3.20, FW: 1.5.3).
After taking a photo, I could not record a video.
The blue waiting sign around the photo button (hour glass) kept rotating.
I had to kill the app. Has any seen this before?
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2015-12-5
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Hi , Rene
Please upgrade your RC firmware to the latest version 1.5.7  .Thanks !
2015-12-6
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Also, format your memory card.
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DJI-Patrick Posted at 2015-12-7 05:00
Hi , Rene
Please upgrade your RC firmware to the latest version 1.5.7  .Thanks !

DJI-Patrick,

I made a mistake with the numbers. I installed directly 1.5.70 on the RC. I received it with 1.3.20.
See http://forum.dji.com/thread-36397-1-1.html
Sometimes I also have problems stopping the recording.
The photo's and video's on the SD card are all OK, but I will format it just to be sure.

Occasionally I get the message Weak RC Signal. Even at close range. I even tried linking the RC again.


Could there be a defect in the RC or the aircraft?

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rene.vandermeer Posted at 2015-12-7 16:10
DJI-Patrick,

I made a mistake with the numbers. I installed directly 1.5.70 on the RC. I received  ...

Would it be OK for you to try that with another RC ?  If you can't find a RC to test , please contact your dealer . Thank you !
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DJI-Patrick Posted at 2015-12-7 15:40
Would it be OK for you to try that with another RC ?  If you can't find a RC to test , please cont ...

I think I might have found the cause of the recording issues: I was shooting in JPG+RAW mode.

If I take 3 images just after each it takes ~20 sec before the writing is finished.
With JPG this is less than 3 sec.

I tried the original DJI SD card (Panasonic 16 GB HC 1) and a Sandisk Ultra 32 GB HC 1.
They give similar results. Formatting does not help.

I tried to get more accurate time stamps so I put the camera in AEB (Auto Exposure Bracketing) mode and took 5 pictures.
Windows shows the creation time in minutes so I turned to CMD.exe and gave this command to get the timestamp in seconds:
>forfiles /c "cmd /c echo @file @ftime"
JPG:
"DJI_0001.JPG" 21:30:10, "DJI_0002.JPG" 21:30:10, "DJI_0003.JPG" 21:30:12, "DJI_0004.JPG" 21:30:12,
"DJI_0005.JPG" 21:30:12, 2 sec, 18.6 MB = 0.48 MBps
RAW:
"DJI_0006.DNG" 21:30:50 ... "DJI_0010.DNG" 21:31:10, 20 sec, 118.9 MB = 5.9 MBps
JPG+RAW:
"DJI_0011.JPG" 21:31:24 ... "DJI_0015.DNG" 21:31:46, 22 sec, 137.5 = 6.2 MBps

According to the Sandisk site the speed should be 30 MBps.
I see similar speeds in these post:
http://www.phantompilots.com/threads/microsd-card-testing-for-photography-5-shot-aeb.44465/#post-408822

Is this a speed limit of the phantom 3?
Is there a difference between the P3A en the P3P?
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rene.vandermeer Posted at 2015-12-8 05:24
I think I might have found the cause of the recording issues: I was shooting in JPG+RAW mode.

If I ...

Hi, Rene
Sorry I can't get this to reappear . What device were you using  ?  So you were taking a "JPEG+RAW" picture , what about the video format you were taking ?  
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DJI-Patrick Posted at 2015-12-8 08:11
Hi, Rene
Sorry I can't get this to reappear . What device were you using  ?  So you were taking a  ...

Hello Patrick,
I was shooting in .MOV at 1080p (1920x1080) 25 fps.
This morning I flew two batteries. I had no problems with video en photo's (.JPG).
On both flights I had one Weak Remote Controller Warning. It was to short however to make a screenshot. Is this something to worry about, or is this normal?
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rene.vandermeer Posted at 2015-12-8 17:01
Hello Patrick,
I was shooting in .MOV at 1080p (1920x1080) 25 fps.
This morning I flew two batteri ...

Hi ,Rene
The short signal loss could happen because of the flight area . For the photo button rotating problem , would you please take a video and post it here ?  I would be very greatful for that !  
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DJI-Patrick Posted at 2015-12-9 08:54
Hi ,Rene
The short signal loss could happen because of the flight area . For the photo button rot ...

Hello DJI-Patrick,

I think the blue circle around the photo button is just a waiting sign. the picture is in my first post, 2nd picture. I was shooting in RAW and after taking a few shots, It takes a long time before all the images are stored. So this seems to be OK.
The weak RC signal warning still worries me. I never saw this with my previous P3A. Now it happens most flights, but only very short. On the other hand I never lost the signal completely. Is this something I should worry about or is it normal?
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Environment can change.

I usually fly in the same area and last weekend I had some major video signal breakup in one part of the park. When I got out of that area all was well again. I flew there again, same signal breakup. Not a aircraft of controller issue, simply environmental interference. I went back the next day and it was fine again.

I've had the same issue with the photo being taken and it spinning forever. I was using an aftermarket card. "Class 10, Lexar 64gb". Did a speed test with H2test and it was 10mb rear and 11mb write.. lol.. that's a no go. I've swapped the car with this one:

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/ ... amp;pf_rd_i=desktop

SanDisk Extreme PRO 64GB UHS-I/U3 Micro SDXC Memory Card Speeds Up To 95MB/s With 4K Ultra HD Ready-SDSDQXP-064G-G46A


Speed test shows exact results of what is claimed (+/- 2-3mb/sec). This works wonderfully, saves photos so much faster and no problems with higher 2.7K video recording. While it may not be an issue with the car, it's always something to look into.
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rene.vandermeer Posted at 2015-12-9 19:48
Hello DJI-Patrick,

I think the blue circle around the photo button is just a waiting sign. the pi ...

Hi ,Rene
It takes  seconds for the app get your photos stored .  For that RC signal weak problem , please test that in a wild space and watch out the attenna orientation .  If that problem continues , please contact your dealer .
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DJI-Patrick Posted at 2015-12-10 04:24
Hi ,Rene
It takes  seconds for the app get your photos stored .  For that RC signal weak problem , ...

Hello DJI-Patrick,

I spoke with the dutch DJI support team. They gave me the same advice. I will do some test flights in open spaces far away from possible interference sources. If I still get weak signal warnings their technicians will check it. I will keep you updated.

Thanks again.
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rene.vandermeer Posted at 2015-12-10 18:00
Hello DJI-Patrick,

I spoke with the dutch DJI support team. They gave me the same advice. I will  ...

Please do the test as soon as possible .
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DJI-Patrick Posted at 2015-12-10 12:33
Please do the test as soon as possible .

Hello DJI-Patrick,

I have done some flights in an open space, away from buildings, houses and other things that could block the signal or provide interference. I still get short (less than a second) Weak RC signal warnings

Yesterday I flew two times. On the second flight I first got a Weak RC signal warning followed by no (video) Signal. I turned off RC and AC. Still no Signal. Then I turned off the App, tried rebooting. Still no video. After a second turning on of RC and AC I got video again.
Then during flight at 370 m distance again the Weak remote controller signal , but this time long enough to make a snapshot.

In the snapshot you can see that the signal is very weaknly one red marker.
Also the GPS lock is slow and during follow me the AC went into hover due to a weak GPS signal.
I expect again a production defect.
I contacted DJJ Support (Holland). They will accept this P3A also under the DOA program. The P3A is now underway to them and I am waiting for a new one..

Is this pure bad luck, or are there more people experiencing problems with (recent) Phantom 3’s?

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Hello Rene, glad you're getting it taken care of. For the future here's a good DJI video on getting the best signal for R/C and video.

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rene.vandermeer Posted at 2015-12-16 22:40
Hello DJI-Patrick,

I have done some flights in an open space, away from buildings, houses and othe ...

Hi , Rene
Phantom 3 Advanced has a wide range far more than 360.3 meters . People seldom get that range problem about the P3A . Please don't be worried , I believe you'll get a much better one .
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DJI-Patrick Posted at 2015-12-17 02:48
Hi , Rene
Phantom 3 Advanced has a wide range far more than 360.3 meters . People seldom get that  ...

DJI-Patrick,

Finally  the problems seem to be solved. Tuesday I received my fourth P3A, but this one seems to be 100%.
Happy Christmas with P3A number 4
Thank you very much for your help.
I am also very great full for the help of the Dutch DJI support team.
This is a very happy Christmas for me.

A very Happy Christmas and the best seasonal greetings to you all!


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rene.vandermeer Posted at 2015-12-26 06:01
DJI-Patrick,

Finally  the problems seem to be solved. Tuesday I received my fourth P3A, but this  ...

Very happy to hear that ! Thank you for your support and Merry Christmas !
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