Starship Posted at 2015-12-26 17:21
I'm a disabled Vietnam vet.  I did 6 years in the US Army.  So, don't go there.

Thank you for your service. you took an oath to defend the constitution from enemy's foreign and domestic, The constitution that you defended contains what is called the first amendment,  you served your country to defend it , that includes mine and yours right to openly discuss what we want to discuss, or this forum would not exist.  So I will go there,  I will never be stifled discussing freedom. You have a right to your opinion as do I.  

mtnmaddman Posted at 2015-12-26 19:44
Thank you for your service. you took an oath to defend the constitution from enemy's foreign and d ...

You are discussing a poll about breaking the law or not breaking the law.  And it IS now a law.  The FAA has total jurisdiction of anything man made in the air over the US.

So this poll is like asking how many of you are willing to go to jail, and be fined a large sum of money.  Having dealt with the FAA for a lot of years, I can tell you....... they do NOT have a sense of humor.  And if you don't register, you WILL be prosecuted.

If you want to fight this, contact the FAA, or your representatives in Washington, and at the state level.  Being an internet warrior will have zero effect on changing this law.  And it is now an FAA rule, which means law...... federal law.

"FAA jurisdiction starts at the ground and extends to the edge of space."




Good luck

Starship Posted at 2015-12-27 14:55
You are discussing a poll about breaking the law or not breaking the law.  And it IS now a law.  Th ...

IS Law Agreed... What's the big deal , I registered on 12/22/15 done.  To the edge of space ! He's right !

daver/m Posted at 2015-12-29 12:20
IS Law Agreed... What's the big deal , I registered on 12/22/15 done.  To the edge of space ! He's ...

It's not just about registering your UAS, it goes far beyond that. Although that's what this post is about. What it's truly about is  imposing  laws upon the people of this country one after the other time and time again. We now are looking at a registration for a 1/2 LB TOY,  a toy, that is crazy to me. Believe me it will not, will not stop there, it will go on and on like gun control did and smoking in public as well as vapeing and everything else people use to enjoy during  their lifetime. Enough is enough, I'm not getting what all of you are not understanding about it, People just keep laying down and asking for more.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL.

presti@optonlin Posted at 2015-12-27 02:31
Here are some US hobbyists thoughts that are to the point. RearViewMirror,  please read numbers 3  ...

@ Ptesti - Glad you pointed this out! I appreciate the post. I'm with you on this and I don't agree with the FAA.

Starship Posted at 2015-12-27 08:21
I'm a disabled Vietnam vet.  I did 6 years in the US Army.  So, don't go there.

@ Starship - I've done my fair share of serving our country too, that I so much love! And I've lost a lot of friends along the way.

Take a look at the flip side of the coin… If you are truly a vet, which I believe you are, don't you think for a moment, that our government is taking far too much control? Not just with drones, but everything in general. And listen, if Hilary were to take office, I'm heading to your house so we can ride it out together!  ;)

~Semper Fi

Sir Shepherd Posted at 2015-12-29 23:10
@ Starship - I've done my fair share of serving our country too, that I so much love! And I've lost ...

While I do understand your point, and concerns, I have dealt we FAA for a lot of years.  They are not the bad guys.  And I also watch the news, and am seeing a lot of near tragedies happening, because of the "hold my beer, and watch this" people.  

The FAA had only a few choices.  Registration of owners is actually the least invasive of those choices.  They could have just done an outright ban.  That is within the scope of their authority to do.  Or they could have segregated all RC aircraft to specified and approved flying fields.

This is just one of hundreds, if not thousands of incidents this year  http://www.latimes.com/local/lan ... 20150916-story.html

The FAA is just trying to get a handle on the situation, and if the problem pilots can't be controlled it will get worse for us.  If it comes down to a choice between the safety of several hundred people in an airplane, or our hobby, the FAA is going to choose safety.

I think Hillary would look nice in a bright orange jumpsuit with a number on the back.   But I bet Bill is stocking up on cigars.

Starship Posted at 2015-12-30 09:03
While I do understand your point, and concerns, I have dealt we FAA for a lot of years.  They are n ...

Laffin'
I think the jumpsuit needs to be blue with some stains on the front.

I've been out of circulation due to surgery and am not really up to speed on the registration process.  I have read this entire post and generally agree with the infringement vof liberties and the restrictions that we already knew about,  The only thing I don't know is, is there a fee for registration?  If there is, that money is what is driving this bus.  Yes, one can make the argument for public safety or personal privacy, but IMO when our government (which is $21,000,000,000,000.00) in debt can find a way to make up lost revenue, it will, simple as that.

naildrivingman@ Posted at 2015-12-31 06:54
I've been out of circulation due to surgery and am not really up to speed on the registration proces ...

If you register in the first 30 days, the 5 bucks gets refunded to you.  So it's free.

Starship Posted at 2015-12-31 09:38
If you register in the first 30 days, the 5 bucks gets refunded to you.  So it's free.

Yes, free now. but next month will be $5 and then $50 and then before you know it it will require a License that will start for FREE to, and then after 30 days will cost $10, $50, $100, I think you get the picture. The BS go's on and on. I say prosecute the IDIOTS that do stupid things, there is one law that will cover it all "endangerment to the public" Please when you think of this use some logic the FAA, and any other organizations including the government are NOT.

Endangerment is a type of crime involving conduct that is wrongful and reckless or wanton, and likely to produce death or grievous bodily harm to another person. There are several kinds of endangerment, each of which is a criminal act that can be prosecuted in a court. In some U.S. states, such as Florida, substantially similar language is used for the crime of Culpable negligence.

• Reckless endangerment: A person commits the crime of reckless endangerment if the person recklessly engages in conduct which creates a substantial risk of serious physical injury to another person. “Reckless” conduct is conduct that exhibits a culpable disregard of foreseeable consequences to others from the act or omission involved. The accused need not intentionally cause a resulting harm. The ultimate question is whether, under all the circumstances, the accused’s conduct was of that heedless nature that made it actually or imminently dangerous to the rights or safety of others.
  

• Public endangerment is usually applied to crimes which place the public in some form of danger, although that danger can be more or less severe according to the crime. It is punished most frequently
  

Endangerment can range from a misdemeanor to a felony. For example, the New York Penal Code §120.20 defines reckless endangerment in the second degree (class A misdemeanor) as conduct that "creates a substantial serious risk of injury to another person", and §120.25 deals with reckless endangerment in the first degree (class D felony), which is conduct that shows a "depraved indifference to human life" and "creates a grave risk of death to another person". In addition, §145.25 codifies reckless endangerment to property as a class B misdemeanor. One of the most important elements in these charges is not that necessarily damage or injury happened, but that there was potential for substantial injury or damage to occur by the defendant's actions.[3]

Also lookup criminal negligence.

All I am saying is to use the LAWS that are on the books, this is just one of many laws that are in place.

    The FAA's Mandatory Drone Registration Rules are Illegal  
Published on Dec 31, 2015
In this  interview with drone and sUAS attorneys Enrico Schaefer and Jonathan Rupprecht, the consensus is clear.  The FAA's mandatory drone registration rules  violate Section 336 of the FAA Modernization and Reform Act of 2012 and the Administrative Procedures Act. A  legal analysis of the registration rule by drone attorney Jonathan Rupprecht.

Its not worth the problems you will have if caught.  If you are in AMA you can just put your AMA number on it and many of the altitude laws and other crap won't apply.  You still need to register though.   I don't want to, but unfortunately, they made the fines bad enough that its not worth risking just to be a renegade.  

i registered mine.  It took all of five minutes, just like Hoot Gibson, FAA guy at the AMA Convention, said it did.  It's one number for all of my drones.  They will have an N number and be on my 333 exemption anyway so i figured do it now while i get the refund.

I did a lot of soul searching on this and at first I thought, NFW. Now after checking what is really involved, I found that you are registering yourself and not the drone. Nothing in the registration process gives any information that cannot be found on the internet at any time. Now with that being said, you mark your drone with the number and that's the end. If you plan on doing something crazy, don't mark it.

The deadline is almost here so I would register soon!

The poll results don't really surprise me actually.
Most folks that take the time to read and learn things are going to be the type that are responsible and knowledgeable... these folks have a natural desire to learn and do things the right way in an orderly fashion.  

most of all the idiots don't take the time to (RTFM) as Paul puts it. And these same folks sure aren't going to surf the inter-webs looking for knowledge... Porn maybe.

In Sweden we have to register all our UAS and also have an insurance if you fly commercially. A class 2 registration is about 280 US.