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I have seen lots of threads and chatter regarding FAA Section 333 exemption in our forum and elsewhere.

I found this video that really sums up most of the questions you might have and the untruth rumors that are spread by folks that just do not know the answers. Some of us are full scale pilots that have been flying RC as a hobby that would qualify for flying a UAV using the commercial 333 exemption. Others think it is overkill or unnecessary.....  In about two years the FAA will have a certified UAV training course for most everyone else that is not willing to go and spend large amount of money to get there pilot's license... So I think a happy medium is coming very soon that everyone can live with. Of course I am only speaking for the USA as other countries have their own governing bodes to set the rules.

This was created by AeroWorks Productions:

I hope you enjoy this information and share your thoughts and comments.









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PaulKerry Posted at 2016-2-1 19:23
That's really great news for you guys on the other side of the pond. The FAA really seem to have b ...


Yah, we wait for the movie to be released and then it becomes reality..  

remember it is the home of the free ...  I think     so things take longer
So, at least they have a long term plan and maybe the AMA will get some input on this final ruling. I really like the idea of training and everyone can learn about safety and the rules that need to be followed.

Maybe then we can see more areas (like the national parks) open for UAV with  licensed operation only

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Saw this video last year and it helped guide me thru the 333 process. Took about 4 months. I do have a pilot license. Based on what a FAA UAS Integration Office rep told a group at a workshop I was at recently It may be a lot less than 2 years. They hope to have the process done by this summer.
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LICENSED PILOT Posted at 2016-2-3 00:19
Saw this video last year and it helped guide me thru the 333 process. Took about 4 months. I do have ...

I've had my exemption for close to a year and my petition was 20 something pages along with PDF of safety guidelines, manuals, emergency procedures, logbooks, and other stuff. and been a private pilot for over 20yrs.
I've seen granted exemptions lately and some of the petition only a few pages.
It couldn't be any simpler now to get an exemption now.
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LICENSED PILOT Posted at 2016-2-3 00:19
Saw this video last year and it helped guide me thru the 333 process. Took about 4 months. I do have ...

This is great news and will only make it better for all of us in the long run.

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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-2-3 00:25
I've had my exemption for close to a year and my petition was 20 something pages along with PDF of ...

Nice!  Good to know who our fellow airman are!

I first got my private pilot license in 1972   (old fart)  Can you share your documentation that you used for the exemption by email?

It would be nice to see

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RichJ53 Posted at 2016-2-3 07:06
Nice!  Good to know who our fellow airman are!

I first got my private pilot license in 1972   ( ...

If you go to the FAA website, they actually tell you they would prefer if you looked up an exemption and just copy it, chasing the names of course to yours.  It is very easy, took me about 20 min to do it.  On the FAA 333 Exemption website, they have step by step instructions on how to look up granted exemptions.  It seems strange, but they want you to copy and paste for the most part.
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SkyDen Posted at 2016-2-3 07:15
If you go to the FAA website, they actually tell you they would prefer if you looked up an exempti ...

okay, good to know and I will check it out.

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LICENSED PILOT Posted at 2016-2-3 00:19
Saw this video last year and it helped guide me thru the 333 process. Took about 4 months. I do have ...

This is awesome news... I intend to Pursue my private pilots regardless.
But this would make this years work much easier, not having my co-workers or buddies tag along every time I want to map a quarry.
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RichJ53 Posted at 2016-2-2 16:06
Nice!  Good to know who our fellow airman are!

I first got my private pilot license in 1972   ( ...

Got you beat, soloed in 1969, PPL IN 1970 (OLDER FART). give me your email and I'll share my format)
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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-2-2 08:25
I've had my exemption for close to a year and my petition was 20 something pages along with PDF of ...

I know what you mean. I've seen some guys only use one page to file for the exemption. Mine was 37 pages long. Crazy.


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RichJ53 Posted at 2016-2-3 07:06
Nice!  Good to know who our fellow airman are!

I first got my private pilot license in 1972   ( ...

Nice, I got mine in 95 at John Wayne airport.
As the other person posted, all my stuff is online for everyone to see.
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DJI-Dave Posted at 2016-2-3 11:08
I know what you mean. I've seen some guys only use one page to file for the exemption. Mine was 37 ...

Nice Dave, I didn't know you had one too. That's awesome.
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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-2-2 19:29
Nice, I got mine in 95 at John Wayne airport.
As the other person posted, all my stuff is online f ...

nice, orange county lot of great weather to fly there !!
We certainly have a lot of aviation experience in our forum group..... Even Dave... wow that's cool. I sold my Pitts Special S1D to someone in Fresno CA and really miss flying my Ferrari of the skies.

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LICENSED PILOT Posted at 2016-2-2 17:09
Got you beat, soloed in 1969, PPL IN 1970 (OLDER FART). give me your email and I'll share my forma ...

Makes me feel younger already I let my CFI run out of date but do not plan on using it anymore.  Can you PM me and I will give you my email


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DJI-Dave Posted at 2016-2-2 19:08
I know what you mean. I've seen some guys only use one page to file for the exemption. Mine was 37 ...

Nice Dave!!  did you apply for as many aircraft as you could think of?

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RichJ53 Posted at 2016-2-3 12:18
nice, orange county lot of great weather to fly there !!
We certainly have a lot of aviation expe ...

Nice, never flew a Pitts, closest I got was spin training in a Decathlon. I've had several aircraft over the years. 77&78 Arrow, V-tail Bonanza, Grumman AA1B, and a few 150's.
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RichJ53 Posted at 2016-2-3 12:21
Nice Dave!!  did you apply for as many aircraft as you could think of?

Rich

I don't know about Dave but I only applied for my P3, what a dumb move. I've since submitted an amendment with about 10 aircraft SEVERAL MONTHS AGO and haven't heard a peep.
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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-2-2 19:29
Nice, I got mine in 95 at John Wayne airport.
As the other person posted, all my stuff is online f ...

Wow Ken, that is cool. I obtained my private pilots license in 1994 at John Wayne Airport, in Orange County California.
Sunrise aviation!


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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-2-2 19:30
Nice Dave, I didn't know you had one too. That's awesome.

I've had my own aerial photography business since 2007. I started with an RC airplane and a canyon point and shoot camera attached to the side of the airplane.
I'm currently working for a different company and I am flying under their 333 exemption.
My personal 333 exemption is in the mail.
I'm only getting that in case I want to do some work of my own like I used to. But to be honest lately the company I work for is keeping me busy enough to where I don't need to do that.


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RichJ53 Posted at 2016-2-2 20:21
Nice Dave!!  did you apply for as many aircraft as you could think of?

Rich

Not too many but I did put a few on there.


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RichJ53 Posted at 2016-2-2 15:06
Nice!  Good to know who our fellow airman are!

I first got my private pilot license in 1972   ( ...

I agree Rich it  is good to know who our fellow airman are.

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DJI-Dave Posted at 2016-2-4 09:40
Wow Ken, that is cool. I obtained my private pilots license in 1994 at John Wayne Airport, in Orang ...

Nice, way back then there was Sunrise and OC Flight Center were the two big ones.
Mine was from Sunrise. Michael Church used to do my check rides, really intimidating instructor but really great and smart guy.
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RichJ53 Posted at 2016-2-2 20:18
nice, orange county lot of great weather to fly there !!
We certainly have a lot of aviation expe ...

That is cool that you remembered me. thanks.

Orange county is a beautiful place to fly we've always got good flying weather.


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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-2-2 20:43
Nice, never flew a Pitts, closest I got was spin training in a Decathlon. I've had several aircraf ...

Spin training in a Decathlon. Same here, have a feeling you might've gone to the same school I did.
I got to do loops and rolls too. I took a extra course to do some of that stuff.


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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-2-3 17:58
Nice, way back then there was Sunrise and OC Flight Center were the two big ones.
Mine was from Su ...


My flight instructor was Eric Kiight.

Remember the black dog that used to walk around the ground school and offices that was blind?
Very old dog it might've passed on before you were there.

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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-2-2 20:43
Nice, never flew a Pitts, closest I got was spin training in a Decathlon. I've had several aircraf ...

I have a lot of hours with stick and rudder, but there is not much that can prepare you for the S1D single seater. It is like strapping the motor right on your nose and going for it. Love flying and at 155 VNE I could cover the ground.
sounds like you have good experience ... Other than my Pitts... my favorite is helicopters Hughes 500D... but I wont bore you anymore with that stuff.

Thanks for posting

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DJI-Dave Posted at 2016-2-3 18:02
That is cool that you remembered me. thanks.

Orange county is a beautiful place to fly we've  ...


Wouldn't mind living down there near Disneyland

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DJI-Dave Posted at 2016-2-4 10:33
My flight instructor was Eric Kiight.

Remember the black dog that used to walk around the ground ...

I don't remember him, mine was Chris Baker. I remember that dog, It was Michael's I think. Lynn Carlson was the ground school instructor, she was awesome too.
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RichJ53 Posted at 2016-2-4 11:28
Wouldn't mind living down there near Disneyland

Rich

That's where I used to take my dates, used to rent a 150 and fly around the perimeter of Disneyland at 9pm and be right next to the fireworks. Can't do that anymore.
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PaulKerry Posted at 2016-2-4 17:48
Wow, Ken... I didn't realise you were a doctor, too...

Paul..

Ya, when my girlfriend at the time heard the seller call it that, she got pretty scared and took a lot of convincing to finally get to climb inside.
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PaulKerry Posted at 2016-2-5 01:14
For anyone wondering what the heck Ken and I are talking about...

The V-Tailed Beech Bonanza is n ...

I knew it as the Doctor killer for another reason. Excessive speed when descending and the tail would rip off and the aircraft became a human lawn dart. (Must have been scary to see yourself plummeting to the ground knowing what the outcome will be.)
And the V-tail was the choice of aircraft for Doctors, like a status symbol.

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Got my first rating in 1997, so within this crowd, I am the baby.  I have Commercial/Instrument Fixed wing and rotorcraft in addition to CFI/CFII Fixed Wing and CFI Rotor.  I am in AZ.
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SkyDen Posted at 2016-2-5 04:11
Got my first rating in 1997, so within this crowd, I am the baby.  I have Commercial/Instrument Fixe ...

Nice, very impressive. I only have PPL SEL
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Well, you don't fly for a living, I however do, hence the ratings.  Would never have all of them if I didn't have a way to work off the giant loans.  lol
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SkyDen Posted at 2016-2-5 04:23
Well, you don't fly for a living, I however do, hence the ratings.  Would never have all of them if  ...

At least your getting paid for flying. I'm sure it's a great career.
I just met a pilot for Discount Tire and I'm so jealous of the things he gets to do, and I'm sure he's paid incredibly well. They have a massive hanger at Scottsdale.
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DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-2-4 09:26
I knew it as the Doctor killer for another reason. Excessive speed when descending and the tail wou ...

Yup this is very true and my hanger partner had the Beechcraft Bonanza debonair with the conventional tail.  Never like the "V" tail you always had to hold rudder to keep the tail from wagging at cruise.

So, did the make the Disneyland area a no fly zone? I see helicopters flying at night all the time. Matter of fact I will post someone flying a aerobatic plane over the park making a heart!

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SkyDen Posted at 2016-2-4 12:11
Got my first rating in 1997, so within this crowd, I am the baby.  I have Commercial/Instrument Fixe ...

Skyden

nice I have most of them, but do not much fly anymore. Great to see you are active with many ratings. Not to many airmen mix it up with both fixed wing and rotorcraft

Good job

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RichJ53 Posted at 2016-2-5 10:33
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nice I have most of them, but do not much fly anymore. Great to see you are active with ma ...

I would love to have a Rotorcraft license.
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RichJ53 Posted at 2016-2-5 10:29
Yup this is very true and my hanger partner had the Beechcraft Bonanza debonair with the conventio ...

Disneyland is a permanent TFR so permission is needed.
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