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Perth City Council, Australia, have separate Drone Laws
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I called up CASA (Civil Aviation Safety Authority) regarding flying my drone around Elizabeth Quay to shoot some pictures. As I am non-commercial, I will hover my drone over water and maintain at least 30 m from Elizabeth Quay to take surrounding pictures. As far as CASA is concerned, there is no problem with that. The CASA advisor was very helpful and nice to talk to.

I then called Perth City Council, explaining the same thing to them. Their advise to me is NO, I cannot fly my drone at Elizabeth Quay. I explained I have already taken safety into account by hovering over water (Swan River) and if anything fails, the craft will just drop into the river. The PCC official then advised that in that case, I have to seek approval from the Swan River Trust because, if my craft fails and drop into the river, the drone battery will pollute the river !!! He is reluctant to hear how I will comply with the current 30m rule and plainly advise NO, I cannot fly my drone there.

Can any drone pilots in Australia, especially in Perth advise if they have similar experiences like this and in this case, will just CASA's advise alone be deemed the official legal approval ?




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In Australia are you require to get approval from the landowner? (council etc). If not then you should be fine. If you do have to get their permission, then it's probably there way or the highway.
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Sometimes it's better to seek forgiveness than to ask permission.
There are people out there that will just see it as an opportunity to say no.
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Thank you guys for your comments. I will not fly my drone there of course as there will be at least 1 city ranger who will confiscate my drone by his own rule. Instead I will use a long selfie pole and my iPhone but then my iPhone might drop into the river and pollute the waterways going by the PCC officer's view.
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Takeoff Posted at 2016-2-11 16:03
Thank you guys for your comments. I will not fly my drone there of course as there will be at least  ...

Looking at Google Earth, there are lots of potential launch points within easy range.
Is your council ranger going to cover them all?
South Perth Esplanade and Langley Field are the obvious ones.
The thing with a P3 is that you don't have to launch right next to the subject you want to photograph.
If you send your P3 across the river, there's very little to connect you with what's going on at Elizabeth Quay.
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As near as I can figure, no-one has the right to regulate where you fly other than CASA. Municipal councils may try it on, but they have no control over airspace whatsoever.
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Geebax Posted at 2016-2-11 21:10
As near as I can figure, no-one has the right to regulate where you fly other than CASA. Municipal c ...

almost every park here in NSW has a sign saying what isn't allowed, the usual, horse riding, shooting guns, oh, and flying model aircraft.
wish I had a horse, then i could break 3 or more rules at once
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I went out there the other day mate with no problems, took off and landed from the little beach around towards the narrows and flew almost exactly where you mentioned (over the river away from the quay itself) with no issues. Enjoy.
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kevhawker Posted at 2016-2-12 02:04
I went out there the other day mate with no problems, took off and landed from the little beach arou ...

Good on ya kevhawker. I have done that too recently but then I want to include myself in the selfie picture too.
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Takeoff Posted at 2016-2-10 21:03
Thank you guys for your comments. I will not fly my drone there of course as there will be at least 1 city ranger who will confiscate my drone by his own rule. Instead I will use a long selfie pole and my iPhone but then my iPhone might drop into the river and pollute the waterways going by the PCC officer's view.

Well a very large aircraft rather tragically, heavily polluted the water on Australia Day, so I wouldn't be too concerned about the inconsequential operation of a tiny drone. If you are worried it would pay to know someone with a boat. Operate off a boat and the TPTB wouldn't be any the wiser... Just watch out for my  Chopper as I fly past.
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JustinVV
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The ranger would not have the authority to confiscate your drone. They are not the police, just a untrained gut in a uniform. They usually like to hire bullies.

They are just there to have a presence and move people on. Maybe ask you to stop flying if they are enforcing some police/nanny state by law. (In Australia we are drowning in police/nanny state laws)

The rules are no more than 45 meters high, and abide by the other common sense rules.

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