I am sure there are a million posts on this already but you can't make a product that is not ready to fly out of the box while claiming it can.

This is America jack.  We have rules here and bodies that answer to governing bodies and when they don't act on their promises commercialy, they get lots and lots of penalties, and then they eventually get shut down.


PRETTY PLEASE.  Make your birds ready to fly. I am not into growning finches. ;)

Thanks

Adam

Adam -

Are you saying that (1) you have a P4 ahead of the release date (if so, congrats!), but (ii) it won't fly?  If so, what is the issue?  

David

"This is America jack.  We have rules here and bodies that answer to governing bodies and when they don't act on their promises commercialy, they get lots and lots of penalties, and then they eventually get shut down."

You arrogant twit. What are you going to do, whip out a lawyer or a gun? DJI said it will be released on the 15th. If you have yours already, then you shouldn't have, suck it up.

No app for it so can't fly.

Geebax Posted at 2016-3-11 00:07
"This is America jack.  We have rules here and bodies that answer to governing bodies and when they  ...

Oh chill out frankie.  I was just kidding.

dckeir@gmail.co Posted at 2016-3-10 23:48
Adam -

Are you saying that (1) you have a P4 ahead of the release date (if so, congrats!), but (ii) ...

How did I get a P4 ahead of its release date?

Also, are you saying that the P4 is not 3 days or whatever away from being ready?

And I bought 2 of em FTR.

When you are the first to buy a brand new product, you are the first to experience all the new bugs and problems that come with it. I'll wait awhile to buy mine.

Geebax Posted at 2016-3-11 16:07
"This is America jack.  We have rules here and bodies that answer to governing bodies and when they  ...

"If you can't shoot it, sue it!"

Blaming consumers for walking into a retail store and buying a product for sale on the shelf for getting the product too early is ridiculous.  Most people aren't going to read forums like this before they buy things.  And I seriously doubt that Apple violated its distribution agreement with DJI.  Why would they want the legal and customer service headaches?  Consider how many calls or store visits they will field from customers who are frustrated they can't use their purchases yet?  If they are selling them now, DJI likely did not contractually embargo them from doing so, which is 100% on DJI.  Ultimately, unless it is shown that Apple specifically violated its contract, it is entirely DJI's responsibility if consumers are getting their hands on these products before DJI is ready to support them with software and instructions.  If it is shown Apple violated its contract, then shame on Apple.  But I'm laying odds they didn't.

ArtistFirst Posted at 2016-3-11 04:55
Oh chill out frankie.  I was just kidding.

lol, when you joke you're supposed to say or write it like this;  "This is 'murica"!   ;)

Geebax Posted at 2016-3-11 03:07
"This is America jack.  We have rules here and bodies that answer to governing bodies and when they  ...

Why do you have to bring up guns?

As of now  Apple can not sell them. They can not scan the item until March 15th.  So please explain to us how you got yours. Thanks

Behshad Posted at 2016-3-11 09:20
As of now  Apple can not sell them. They can not scan the item until March 15th.  So please explain  ...

Read the entire thread

Elmer Fudd Posted at 2016-3-11 09:35
Read the entire thread

I did.  And?

Show us the P4 and Apple Store receipt.

Show us the P4 and Apple Store receipt.

If you really have a P4.

ArtistFirst Posted at 2016-3-11 17:55
Oh chill out frankie.  I was just kidding.

Kidding about your rant or kidding about actually havin a couple P4's?

Edit..Saw your post in #6, says your got two congrats.....

It appeared like he was kidding about his rant.

Northofthe49th Posted at 2016-3-11 17:07
Kidding about your rant or kidding about actually havin a couple P4's?

Edit..Saw your post in #6,  ...

http://www.phantompilots.com/thr ... -apple-store.70864/

People is buying in Apple stores ... so it can be !

Geebax Posted at 2016-3-11 03:07
"This is America jack.  We have rules here and bodies that answer to governing bodies and when they  ...

He Does not represent the United States of America in any way.
Gawd I hate it when they don't do their homework.  :@

THIS IS MURICA! would have been so much better.

I tell ya, kidding or  not, it's the little things like this thread which remind me just why I defected from America five years ago

edbighi@gmail.c Posted at 2016-3-11 13:13
I tell ya, kidding or  not, it's the little things like this thread which remind me just why I defec ...

You escaped? How?

citivas Posted at 2016-3-11 05:10
Blaming consumers for walking into a retail store and buying a product for sale on the shelf for get ...

Actually I think they did violate the agreement. It was individual stores, not Apple itself that sold them early. They were not to sell it until the release date on the 15th. Don't blame DJI for that one.

iSkyShots Posted at 2016-3-11 07:37
If you really have a P4.

He probably really has a P4, I've seen unboxing vids from people who got them early from Apple Stores, and yes, no app support yet. I still don't blame DJI for that, the release date is the 15th. That screwup is on Apple and I'm sure DJI will get the app into the store on time, after all, its available in EU.

bobasbury Posted at 2016-3-11 03:34
"If you can't shoot it, sue it!"

Dude, I almost just spit my cream soda all over my very expensive screen!  HAHAHAHA

citivas Posted at 2016-3-11 05:10
Blaming consumers for walking into a retail store and buying a product for sale on the shelf for get ...

I wish I would have read this before posting my last thread.

This is exactly my point.  Apple knows what they are doing and DJI is from another culture in an emerging market.  No hate at DJI, just being real.

VERY WELL SAID!!!!!

http://topfivedrones.com

Behshad Posted at 2016-3-11 22:20
As of now  Apple can not sell them. They can not scan the item until March 15th.  So please explain  ...

I walked into a Apple Store and it magically appeared in my hand and here it is.

Here is my phantom Phantom.  Hahaha.  Reminds me of a joke Brian Regan once told.  What do you call having second thoughts about a plan to schedule a trip to an Indian community? A reservation reservation reservation.

iSkyShots Posted at 2016-3-11 07:35
Show us the P4 and Apple Store receipt.

Northofthe49th Posted at 2016-3-11 08:07
Kidding about your rant or kidding about actually havin a couple P4's?

Edit..Saw your post in #6,  ...

I have one.

I will have two.

I am sorry for all the posts guys. I don't know how to do a multi-post here yet and I'm trying to answer the questions sent my way.

edbighi@gmail.c Posted at 2016-3-12 02:13
I tell ya, kidding or  not, it's the little things like this thread which remind me just why I defec ...

So, how does Austria compare?

ArtistFirst Posted at 2016-3-12 04:08
What do you call having second thoughts about a plan to schedule a trip to an Indian community? A reservation reservation reservation.

Good one  

edbighi@gmail.c Posted at 2016-3-12 02:13
I tell ya, kidding or  not, it's the little things like this thread which remind me just why I defec ...

I am an international kind of guy.  I don't care where people live. I am singularity kind of guy but you take with you what you take with you.

This thread does not represent America.  This thread represents the internet.
Have you read comments on YouTube? They are disgusting and they are NOT all American.

ghtracey Posted at 2016-3-11 14:59
Actually I think they did violate the agreement. It was individual stores, not Apple itself that s ...

How do you know Apple violated their agreement?  Has someone gotten a copy and posted it?  

citivas Posted at 2016-3-12 04:28
How do you know Apple violated their agreement?  Has someone gotten a copy and posted it?  Did App ...

For the record, I personally never accused anyone of breaking any laws exactly, nor did I say an agreement was made.

I tend to agree with the poster who said there was one but there was probably a legal issue that was cultural that got in the way.

Asian business culture and American business culture are two VERY VERY different things.

Mainly because one is fake capitalism in fake democracy and the other is real socialism in a place where it's the second highest (soon to be highest) GDP with an average of just under $9000 A YEAR as the middle class.  
The average Chinese household would cost more than 1/10th their yearly salary for a P4.  That said, the P4 is cheaper there. But still.

ArtistFirst Posted at 2016-3-11 15:32
For the record, I personally never accused anyone of breaking any laws exactly, nor did I say an a ...

There definitely would have been a contract.  And it definitely has to specify the embargoed release date if any.  In lieu of that, a retailer is free to sell them as soon as they receive them.

citivas Posted at 2016-3-12 04:34
There definitely would have been a contract.  And it definitely has to specify the embargoed relea ...

Then somebody owes somebody punitive damages because there are a lot of pissed off people and the company that did the wrong thing should come out publicly and say so.

ArtistFirst Posted at 2016-3-11 15:35
Then somebody owes somebody punitive damages because there are a lot of pissed off people and the  ...

Which is why there is no way Apple would have done it on purpose -- they deal in a scale of sales for which these drone sales are not even a rounding error for them so why risk it?  Of course someone at Apple may have made a mistake.  These things start out as contracts and corporate and they have to have a system of distribution to stores that comes with instructions on how to handle the product -- when to release it, where to display it, etc.  It's certainly possible someone messed up and didn't fill in the field with the embargo date.  But it's also highly possible that someone at DJI failed to include it in the contract.  Not sure we'll ever know.

citivas Posted at 2016-3-12 04:50
Which is why there is no way Apple would have done it on purpose -- they deal in a scale of sales  ...

Or someone works for Apple or knows someone who does.

ArtistFirst Posted at 2016-3-11 15:08
I walked into a Apple Store and it magically appeared in my hand and here it is. https://www.youtu ...

Next to the watch, that P4 looks like a micro quadcopter. Just sayin.