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Hi, I want to buy my first ND filter for my p3a. Can someone tell me what filter I should buy first?

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I'm also looking to get my first filter but not sure whether to go for a polarising filter, or an ND filter. And if the latter, which one? I'm having issues with sunlight reflecting off white buildings. Hope someone can help us!
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I run a Nd 4 all the time. Except at night.
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skippydonovan Posted at 2016-3-29 01:14
I run a Nd 4 all the time. Except at night.

What's the difference between a polarising filter and an ND filter?
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stalked-buddha Posted at 2016-3-29 11:22
and what kind of results do you get straight off the camera without any post tinkering

What kind of results are you expecting?  All it will do is slow down the shutter speed.
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I got a nd16 for my first
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You probably know this, but in using an nd filter, you're trying to maintain the 180degree rule for shooting video. Basically, your shutter speed should be set to twice your frame rate. So if I'm shooting 1080 25p, my frame rate is 25fps. My shutter speed should therefore be double that i.e. 1/50 (or as close as I can get). This will result in natural-looking motion blur, which people refer to as the most film-like, or 'cinematic'. High shutter speeds as a result of not using an nd filter to control exposure will result in a 'hyper-real', video-ish look. Some people like it, I can't say I do. Sorry if I'm teaching Grandma to suck eggs..
Taco-RC are doing a nice set of 4 nd filters in a zipped pouch - someone did a color balance test with them and they seem very clean

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mrbillgill1 Posted at 2016-3-29 16:00
You probably know this, but in using an nd filter, you're trying to maintain the 180degree rule for  ...

thanks for information, but in your opinion what ND filter i should buy first?
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http://www.snakeriverprototyping.com/p3-series-filters
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http://www.snakeriverprototyping.com/p3-series-filters
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manatas2 Posted at 2016-3-29 16:15
thanks for information, but in your opinion what ND filter i should buy first?

What shutter speed are most of your videos at & what shutter speed do you want them to be at?
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nigelw Posted at 2016-3-29 19:59
What shutter speed are most of your videos at & what shutter speed do you want them to be at?

I didn't check in what shutter speed i'm filming at I just take white balance from auto to sunny and adjust the adjustment wheel.
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stalked-buddha Posted at 2016-3-29 18:49
These are the results I'm getting without any filters

ND filters will do nothing to improve stills unless you're trying to get motion blur, which I assume you're not.  If anything, they'll reduce the quality of your photos due to camera shake, optical degredation or getting dust/grease on the lens...or all three.  People use ND filters to get smoother looking video by increasing the shutter speed, at the cost of ultimate sharpness.
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manatas2 Posted at 2016-3-29 18:17
I didn't check in what shutter speed i'm filming at I just take white balance from auto to sunny a ...

All ND filters will do is slow the shutter speed to produce smoother video.  If the shutter speed is already slow, you might get too much blur or increased noise due to raising the ISO value.
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MattG Posted at 2016-3-29 01:05
I'm also looking to get my first filter but not sure whether to go for a polarising filter, or an ND ...

CHECK OUT HOBBYMOUNTS UK they have a wide range of polarpro filters
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stalked-buddha Posted at 2016-3-29 19:52
Cheers buddy will have a look at them

My pleasure
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stalked-buddha Posted at 2016-3-29 19:45
http://youtu.be/z7fgSF7mStg

I'm no expert on video so not much point in me looking at it, although I am learning.  I am a photographer though & would say you'd be better off buying an ND8 or ND16 (in fact, I've just ordered an ND16).  The reason I say that is because an ND4 will only reduce the exposure by a factor of 4, which means you'll go from around 1/1000 sec to 1/250 sec shutter speed during an average British day.  An ND16 filter will reduce exposure by a factor of 16, so you'd get to around 1/60 sec which is much nearer what you'd ideally want.  If the worst happens & it's too much, say in the evening when light levels fall, you can always adjust the ISO up to compensate and fine tune.
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what did you more prefer polar pro or DJI filters ?
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The best aerial ND's I've found to date come from Snake River Prototyping. Superior quality glass. I rarely fly without one.
http://www.snakeriverprototyping.com/p3-series-filters
What's more is they offer a Graduated ND called the GND16-8. This filter was designed for aerial videography. As you all know 95% of your aerial shots are composed of two things... Land and Skies. But the skies are much brighter than the land. This forces you to choose what you're exposing for. The land.... and blow out your skies a bit? Or the skies and risk crushing the shadows of the land beneath? The GND16-8 Graduates from an ND16 on top to an ND8 on the bottom. It is by far my most used ND. Hope this helps and no I dont work for SRP....LOL.
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ND 16 for sunny, bright conditions.  ND 8 for overcast conditions.  I have Snake River prototyping filters
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manatas2 Posted at 2016-3-29 21:36
what did you more prefer polar pro or DJI filters ?

POLARPRO MORE CHOICE
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fhagan02@me.com Posted at 2016-3-29 23:48
The best aerial ND's I've found to date come from Snake River Prototyping. Superior quality glass. I ...

Cool, I've been searching for ND grads.  Shame they don't do a clear/ND4 version with a slightly higher midpoint and harder transition.
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What kind of situation would a ND32 filter be used for?
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nigelw Posted at 2016-3-29 17:59
What shutter speed are most of your videos at & what shutter speed do you want them to be at?

I started out using the same settings as my dslr rigs (1/50) but the motion blur was too much. So now I try to hit 1/100 shutter or thereabouts and I'm happy after checking the footage on one of the broadcast standard monitors at work. I really like the Dji log mode as well.
The Taco-RC set of ND filters I mentioned are fantastic, and also don't require a re-calibration on the gimbal

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mrbillgill1 Posted at 2016-4-3 13:35
I started out using the same settings as my dslr rigs (1/50) but the motion blur was too much. So n ...

Hi. Do you have TACO RC with multicoating or without? What is the difference if any? In price there is difference
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Nejkoy Posted at 2016-4-16 14:52
Hi. Do you have TACO RC with multicoating or without? What is the difference if any? In price ther ...

I bought these ones

http://taco-rc.com/taco-rc-nd-fi ... ance-free-shipping/
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http://www.phantompilots.com/thr ... ji-phantom-3.46475/

Interesting link on Taco RC nd filters
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BW_PacificNorth Posted at 2016-4-2 23:47
What kind of situation would a ND32 filter be used for?

you dont need this one a lot, but i use it in sunny day in winter when there is snow everywhere or in situation of really hight light. winter in canada: really need this one
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