Is there any way to allow the phantom 4 to go 19 000 feet?

Climb a 17359 ft mountain.

nigelw Posted at 2016-4-14 18:49
Climb a 17359 ft mountain.

Ok.....I don't care what anyone says.......that is funny!!!!!

The question beggs........why do you want to go up 19,000 feet?

I believe the service ceiling of the P4 IF it were possible is 16,000 feet ASL.

wow                           

There is no way to allow it to go that high? In the manual it says it is capable of going 6000m above sea level

Tmygun Posted at 2016-4-14 16:18
The question beggs........why do you want to go up 19,000 feet?

I believe the service ceiling of th ...

ASL? You mean MSL (Mean Sea Level) not busting your chops just keeping with the FAA & aviation terminology since we've been tossed into their world.

Buy Low Posted at 2016-4-15 12:12
ASL? You mean MSL (Mean Sea Level) not busting your chops just keeping with the FAA & aviation ter ...

ASL means Above Sea Level.

What is the max altitude for the Phantom 4?  1600 ft?

classic2003@sym Posted at 2016-4-15 12:07
There is no way to allow it to go that high? In the manual it says it is capable of going 6000m abov ...

That means the maximum altitude that it will function properly at. DJI set a maximum 500 Metres (1640 feet) above your take off point. And that is why Nigel said to climb a 17,359 feet mountain, because they you can fly up to 19,000 feet. The Phantom does not care about seal level, only the point from which it departs.

Geebax Posted at 2016-4-15 11:15
That means the maximum altitude that it will function properly at. DJI set a maximum 500 Metres (1 ...

This is my understanding as well.

Anyhow, even if the altitude wasn't governed, I doubt seriously if the P4 would have the power to achieve half that altitude. Just look how many P1 and P2's ened up crashing as a result of low battery after reaching 5,000 ft. Yes the P4 has more flight time but we're talking about 4 times the altitude.

Geebax Posted at 2016-4-14 23:15
That means the maximum altitude that it will function properly at. DJI set a maximum 500 Metres (1 ...

Thx for defending me on the Sea level thing........BUT yes the Phantom does care where it takes off from.......service ceiling defines how high above sea level a aircraft can fly.

As you get higher in the atmosphere the air gets "thinner" and "lift" is reduced.  The "service ceiling" of a Cessna 152 is @ 14,000 to 15,000 feet.  Even with suplimental oxygen for the pilot the plane configuration combined with engine power will not allow it to climb higher.

If you had a P4 10,000 or so feet below the summit of Mount Everest.....work with me here now (fantasty)......in theory you could spin the blades but the power or the P4 would not overcome the thin air at that altitude.  
THATS why I was puzzled by the idea of 19,000 feet......bypass the battery question....where are we going to get to 19,000?.

I don't how people achieve those distances but my P4 loses signal after 1000ft

nigelw Posted at 2016-4-15 06:49
Climb a 17359 ft mountain.

This is the correct answer!

The OP didn't specify if he was talking about altitude or distance.  I assumed distance.

jstjohnz Posted at 2016-4-15 15:18
The OP didn't specify if he was talking about altitude or distance.  I assumed distance.

He did specify altitude on post #6.

SVTRay Posted at 2016-4-15 13:29
This is my understanding as well.

Anyhow, even if the altitude wasn't governed, I doubt seriousl ...

My reading of the DJI spec is that is the maximum altitude you can operate from. Getting there, from down at seal level is probably not possible.

Take a suitcase put it in, book a flight for a holiday, and you will reach 33000 ft. at least. No danger at all.

Tmygun Posted at 2016-4-15 05:04
Thx for defending me on the Sea level thing........BUT yes the Phantom does care where it takes of ...

A P1 can fly at 17500 feet, so another 1500 feet isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

Geebax Posted at 2016-4-15 04:15
...The Phantom does not care about seal level, only the point from which it departs.

The DJI Specs states Max Service Ceiling Above Sea Level is 6000 metres

http://www.dji.com/product/phantom-3-pro/info#specs

Not sure if that's an estmate on when the air gets too thin, or an in built limit using the barometer.  But that seems to indicate it does care about sea level as well....

SpireFire Posted at 2016-4-15 16:26
Take a suitcase put it in, book a flight for a holiday, and you will reach 33000 ft. at least. No da ...

Yep, and no chance of a flyaway.

And 6000 Metres is equal to 19,685.04 feet.

Tmygun Posted at 2016-4-15 00:04
Thx for defending me on the Sea level thing........BUT yes the Phantom does care where it takes of ...

You have that info right my friend.

wellsi Posted at 2016-4-15 04:46
The DJI Specs states Max Service Ceiling Above Sea Level is 6000 metres

http://www.dji.com/product ...

Correct, everything is associated with sea level. It may be that the height spec is due to the spec's of the Barometer that they are using?

Ok, let's say the battery would last long enough . . . Theoretically you should be able to take off, fly to 1640', land and reset home point, takeoff again, fly another 1640', land and reset home point, takeoff again, etc. and fly up to maximum altitude that the P4 is capable to sustain lift.

nigelw Posted at 2016-4-15 09:37
A P1 can fly at 17500 feet, so another 1500 feet isn't beyond the realms of possibility.

Thanks Nigel, that's an impressive video. So the Phantom really flys at that altitude, cool.

It would probably be a bit to cold at 19000 ft?

Where is my popcorn

wellsi Posted at 2016-4-15 16:46
The DJI Specs states Max Service Ceiling Above Sea Level is 6000 metres

http://www.dji.com/product ...

Now barring taking off from a 17,000' mountain, a Phantom shouldn't have the power to obtain 19,000' on it's own?

nigelw Posted at 2016-4-14 18:49
Climb a 17359 ft mountain.

If you strap a weather balloon on the Phantom it will even goes up to stratosphere. You can then free fall it and then fly it back on earth. {:2_40:}

Tmygun Posted at 2016-4-14 23:04
Thx for defending me on the Sea level thing........BUT yes the Phantom does care where it takes of ...

10,000 feet is not enough to keep the Phantom 3 from taking off and climbing out. I took off from the summit of Independence Pass (12,096 feet) and took my P3P up 400 additional feet and it performed no different than when flying in Oklahoma. Altitude (thinner air) does decrease your performance but the P3P has enough extra power that it's not noticeable at that altitude.

Cobra44Magnum Posted at 2016-4-16 02:53
10,000 feet is not enough to keep the Phantom 3 from taking off and climbing out. I took off from  ...

That's good information to know.

As for the barometer used not being able to deal with 19,000 feet, unless DJI used the cheapest one they could find, I doubt that. I built one into a radio-sonde package that was capable of working up at 80,000 feet, and it was not specially chosen for that altitude.

Tmygun Posted at 2016-4-15 07:16
Ok.....I don't care what anyone says.......that is funny!!!!!

I concur!!  That's good stuff!!  Hehehehehe  I keep expecting to hear a rimshot...

Pretty cool stuff...

Tmygun Posted at 2016-4-14 19:18
The question beggs........why do you want to go up 19,000 feet?

I believe the service ceiling of th ...

Maybe the Op was wanting a really cool pic of a LearJet.  Seriously though, a Phantom Drone added with a lil bit of testosterone, these are the things people will try.

Geebax Posted at 2016-4-14 19:14
ASL means Above Sea Level.

"ASL" No such term in aviation.  
MSL altitudes are measured from a standard datum, which is roughly equal to the average altitude of the ocean. So, an aircraft traveling 5,000 feet directly above a mountain that's 3,000 feet tall would have an altitude of 5,000 feet AGL and 8,000 feet MSL.

Buy Low Posted at 2016-4-19 10:24
"ASL" No such term in aviation.  
MSL altitudes are measured from a standard datum, which is rough ...

As an FAA PPL holder I can tell you that we sure as hell do use ASL in aviation. It could also be said as ASML. But, ASL was perfectly acceptable in quite a few cases.

Thats 1,640 feet, not 16K feet. Max altitude on the P4 is 500m (set in the app) which is equivalent to 1,640 feet, 5 inches.

Uberfish Posted at 2016-4-18 21:44
As an FAA PPL holder I can tell you that we sure as hell do use ASL in aviation. It could also be s ...

you might want to check the AIM (Airman's Information Manual)  https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/media/aim.pdf.  ASL is not in the manual which is the Official Guide to Basic Flight Information and ATC Procedures published by the FAA.  You might use the phrase or acronym but it isn't proper.  If you don't believe me ask a professional pilot.