860462 Posted at 2016-6-8 19:57
Hey, actually I just realised that, mine is not let me go more than 120m too. Is it that because I ...

The setting is changed through the software on the DJI app. Have a poke around and you'll find it. The maximum altitude anyone can fly is 500M (1640ft)
Cheers mate,

RedHotPoker Posted at 2016-6-9 14:36
Ok, do you really want to take your phantom way up, to new heights.
Just strap on one of these bad b ...

I want one !

soundbyte58 Posted at 2016-6-9 22:01
This kind of crap, doesn't help.

https://ca.yahoo.com/news/drone- ... port-073800943

Getting pretty serious out there.

DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-6-9 09:47
Getting pretty serious out there.

Yep, and as long as there are people out there that don't think the rules apply to them, it's gonna get worse.

DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-6-9 10:46
I want one !

So, you won't be needing that old clunky Inspire 1 anymore then? ;-)

RedHotPoker

RedHotPoker Posted at 2016-6-10 01:21
So, you won't be needing that old clunky Inspire 1 anymore then? ;-)

RedHotPoker

Ya, that's it

soundbyte58 Posted at 2016-6-10 01:11
Yep, and as long as there are people out there that don't think the rules apply to them, it's gonn ...

Unfortunately it may very well end up that way.

DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-6-9 17:30
Unfortunately it may very well end up that way.

Is these rules based on take of point or AGL. That makes a lot of differences if you have mountains.

This is close to the limit.    

gullisig Posted at 2016-6-10 04:37
Is these rules based on take of point or AGL. That makes a lot of differences if you have mountain ...

It's based on AGL.

soundbyte58 Posted at 2016-6-10 03:11
Yep, and as long as there are people out there that don't think the rules apply to them, it's gonn ...

And as long as gullible people believe these fake drone reports.
Look at the details ...
The report says the WestJet pilots spotted the drone on the plane's left side at the same altitude of the plane, about 6,700 feet. The Air Canada flight was flying at 8,000 feet when its pilots spotted the drone about 1.8 kilometres to its left, flying about 2,000 feet below the plane's altitude.

The FAA incident database is packed full of similar unbelievable reports.
In the past pilots reported UFOs .. now they see drones

labroides@yahoo Posted at 2016-6-9 14:49
And as long as gullible people believe these fake drone reports.
Look at the details ...
The repor ...

True, but the ones that have radar contact are treated a little different than the unbelievable sightings. A drone flying over Ottawa is treated no differently than one flying over Washington. It is our nation's capital and the seat of government in Canada. And the PIC is a buffoon.

soundbyte58 Posted at 2016-6-10 08:07
True, but the ones that have radar contact are treated a little different than the unbelievable si ...

Pilot in charge of what?   A mylar weather balloon perhaps?
Just because it was allegedly observed on radar doesn't make it a drone.
Would most drones even show on radar?
Automatically accepting the (almost certainly invalid) assumption that is a drone is a mistake.

Think about it.  Who is flying at 8000 feet?
Phantom's can't but if they did, a quick up-and-back to that height would take more than 22 mins.
Bigger drones have less flight time than Phantoms.
The number of high altitude drone reports is way more than the number of specialised drones capable of making the flights that get reported.
And the number of reports seems to be matched by the drop in UFO reports.

soundbyte58 Posted at 2016-6-9 15:07
True, but the ones that have radar contact are treated a little different than the unbelievable si ...

The way I see it is simple. In Canada there are a set of guidelines to follow for drones under 2kgs. If you want to fly outside of those guidelines you need to apply for a "Special Flight Operations Certificate". There is a way to get what you want, you just have to be prepared to jump thru hoops to get it. If the flight restrictions on your DJI Phantom cramp your style, then by all means go ahead and by yourself a commercial grade drone that doesn't have restrictions. Or build a custom one yourself.

hjscm@me.com Posted at 2016-6-10 00:30
I feel your pain.  i fly in the mountains and need to get up to about 4200' AGL to get over a mounta ...

I am sorry but the 500m limit cannot be changed.

DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-6-9 23:25
I am sorry but the 500m limit cannot be changed.

Why not ? Is that for the rules of production or it's not technically possible ?

860462 Posted at 2016-6-10 10:04
Why not ? Is that for the rules of production or it's not technically possible ?

Yes it is technically possible, but DJI have taken the initiative to encourage responsible flying and have set an altitude limit on their aricraft that you cannot circumvent. If you are not willing to accept that, then dJI aircraft are not for you. And no amount of campaiging on this forum is going to change that.

Geebax Posted at 2016-6-9 17:12
Yes it is technically possible, but DJI have taken the initiative to encourage responsible flying a ...

Exactly, and I don't see any campaigning, just moaning. Typical "glass half empty".

soundbyte58 Posted at 2016-6-10 01:50
Exactly, and I don't see any campaigning, just moaning. Typical "glass half empty".

Hey, what the wrong with you rude guys ??! I'm new and just trying to learn if I can do it or not. Should I not ask any questions ? Back off !

860462 Posted at 2016-6-10 08:04
Why not ? Is that for the rules of production or it's not technically possible ?

It's the rules of DJI, and it's technically possible. Don't know why it wouldn't be. They added it for safety.

Geebax Posted at 2016-6-10 08:12
Yes it is technically possible, but DJI have taken the initiative to encourage responsible flying a ...

Well said.

Real airplanes don't fly 500m low or lower unless it's near an airport.

500m should only be enforced near airports

And inside airports should obviously be a no fly zone.

Rest should be like 2000m

Cities/populated areas though should be at 500m

leanlinao Posted at 2016-6-10 13:01
Real airplanes don't fly 500m low or lower unless it's near an airport.

500m should only be enforce ...

Leanlinao .. you are the master of misinformation

Anyone assuming that there won't be other air traffic below 500 metres except near airports could be very, very wrong.
Here are the FAA rules for minimum safe altitudes for real planes.
Most other countries have similar rules.

§ 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes: General.
Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an aircraft below the following altitudes:
(a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.
(b) Over congested areas. Over any congested area of a city, town, or settlement, or over any open air assembly of persons, an altitude of 1,000 feet above the highest obstacle within a horizontal radius of 2,000 feet of the aircraft.
(c) Over other than congested areas. An altitude of 500 feet above the surface, except over open water or sparsely populated areas. In those cases, the aircraft may not be operated closer than 500 feet to any person, vessel, vehicle, or structure.
(d) Helicopters, powered parachutes, and weight-shift-control aircraft. If the operation is conducted without hazard to persons or property on the surface—
(1) A helicopter may be operated at less than the minimums prescribed in paragraph (b) or (c) of this section, provided each person operating the helicopter complies with any routes or altitudes specifically prescribed for helicopters by the FAA

Note that the minimum safe height is 1000 ft (300m) but pay particular attention to C & D
You can encounter real aircraft even lower than 400 ft.

labroides@yahoo Posted at 2016-6-9 20:40
Leanlinao .. you are the master of misinformation

Anyone assuming that there won't be other air tr ...

Right on the money, same in Canada. Actually pretty much the same for the rest of the world. Also the aviation industry does not use the metric system when talking altitude. Even in countries where metric is the standard. It's always feet or in hundreds of feet if you've passed through transition altitude.

Aardvark Posted at 2016-6-8 21:34
The CAA 'recommendations' are 400 feet if unaccompanied and 1000 feet with an observer, I suspect a ...

I really don't want to be the drone police but... The CAA are fairly relaxed at the moment compared to the FAA but one thing they DO care about is the 400 feet.  You need CAA permission to go beyond the 400 feet. It's there for a reason, if you truly have a valid requirement, get certified for PfAW and request permission submitting the relevant information to the CAA otherwise don't be a d*ck and stick at <401 feet!


Thankfully, people who enjoy the hobby or use them professionaly tend to hunt down those on Vimeo and Youtube who post videos that go well beoyond what you should be doing and passingthe info mto the CAA - remember LONDON Guy, he got bummed

Try and keep flying in the UK sensible and the law shall do the same

I shall take my drone police hat off now...

Well, what's the problem here? If u want to fly to a ridge that's over 500m up from where you are, clearly u need to land remotely, and take off again. Powering the props off and on will reset the home point and home altitude. If you do not fill comfortable landing remotely with full motor off, then u need to take your video in multiple takes, and either hike or drive to the next take off point.
Hope with this approach you can get where you want to be.

labroides@yahoo Posted at 2016-6-10 11:40
Leanlinao .. you are the master of misinformation

Anyone assuming that there won't be other air tr ...

Real airplanes don't go below 500m or 1640 feet because they would already hit city obstacles that are up to 1640 feet with the always changing landscape.

Airplanes only fly at 1640 and lower when they are near the airport already onto the path that goes towards landing.

Flying 1640 or lower for an airplane could be suicide.

They only fly 2000 feet or higher.


That is why 500m or 1640 feet as the limit is already reasonable. 500m or 1640 feet is kinda low in provinces where a airplanes stay at 6000 feet or higher. DJI did 500m and it is reasonable.

They only go as low as 2000 feet when they are near the airport and lower when they are on the path towards landing.

The FAA wants drone flying to be as safe as possible because they are paranoid of what can happen because anybody can buy a drone
but the problem is they don't consider different areas with different limitations.

leanlinao Posted at 2016-6-10 17:36
Real airplanes don't go below 500m or 1640 feet because they would already hit city obstacles that ...

Really ... you can't be that stupid.
I posted the minimum altitude rules that clearly show that what you are saying is absolute rubbish.
Trolling again?

you are limited to flying 120m AGL from take off point, but if for example you reach an altitude of 30m then fly over a drop of 500m, your elevation might be 530m but your actual altitude is still only 30m, if you see what i mean. just dont fly above 120m straight up from take off

leanlinao Posted at 2016-6-10 02:36
Real airplanes don't go below 500m or 1640 feet because they would already hit city obstacles that ...

You are simply wrong, and talking way out of your depth. The numbers for real airplanes are 1000' above the highest obstacle in a built-up area within a 2000' lateral radius. if there is a 100' building or tree or tower or anything within 2000' or your "Real Airplane", your new minimum is 1100'. You are obviously talking about things you know nothing about. It's customary, when debating a subject, to have your facts strait.

labroides@yahoo Posted at 2016-6-9 14:49
And as long as gullible people believe these fake drone reports.
Look at the details ...
The repor ...

I don't think a p4 will show on radar.  also flying at that speed how likely are you going to be able to see a small p4 1.8km away.  i can barely see it hovering at 250' height if i take my eyes off it for a bit.  only cause i know its there or hear it i can see it.

hjscm@me.com Posted at 2016-6-10 07:11
I don't think a p4 will show on radar.  also flying at that speed how likely are you going to be a ...

They clearly state that it was a large drone. Let's not muddy the waters with conjecture about P4's and radar.

hjscm@me.com Posted at 2016-6-10 07:11
I don't think a p4 will show on radar.  also flying at that speed how likely are you going to be a ...

I can spot my P4 easily at 1.8km if there is anything dark behind it, like a forest on a mountainside. If it's moving, it's even easier to spot. And if the sun is shining, it glows. On the ground looking at the sky is a lot different than being in the sky and looking at the ground. Pilots are trained in situational awareness. From the moment they enter flight training, it is drilled into them. A good pilot will keep a constant lookout for anything that could possibly threaten the plane. Doesn't matter if it's a Piper Cub, or an Airbus 380.

soundbyte58 Posted at 2016-6-10 22:42
I can spot my P4 easily at 1.8km if there is anything dark behind it, like a forest on a mountainsi ...

You can easily spot your P4 from 1.8km away, you must have incredible vision.

DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-6-10 09:10
You can easily spot your P4 from 1.8km away, you must have incredible vision.

Clearly we have a superhero present! Sign him up for a free Phantom 6.3/4 model! That's the one that becomes invisible to us, mere mortals, and has the 44x optical zoom, with infrared and all that jazz - right? {:4_177:}

sploodge Posted at 2016-6-10 07:10
I really don't want to be the drone police but... The CAA are fairly relaxed at the moment compare ...

Good......I think the hat was pointing in the wrong direction here, I was defending the 400 foot limit as being a lawful requirement , the other person was arguing that this was not strictly correct.

In fact you can fly to 1000 feet if you have a named observer:-

See section 4C Here

Which is backed up by the CAA Here

leanlinao Posted at 2016-6-10 10:36
Real airplanes don't go below 500m or 1640 feet because they would already hit city obstacles that ...

Some real airplanes do go below 500m, in fact below 300 feet I would guess (See attachment)

DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-6-10 08:10
You can easily spot your P4 from 1.8km away, you must have incredible vision.

Sorry, my bad! I checked my log and it was actually 1.3km. It wasn't my intent to deceive. My point is, that you can see these things from very far away in the right conditions. I suggest you try it out, you'd be surprised. My eyesight is no better than anyone else's, I wear glasses for distance. But there was 5 other people with me that day and everyone could see it, especially when it moved across our field of vision. This is a link to a screenshot of my synced flight log. South of the drone on the other side of the road is a mountain, and it stood out like Venus at twilight. Well maybe not as bright as Venus, really. But you get my point.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9PaRJY4GeJQQ1hQREVERnJzUDA

Aardvark Posted at 2016-6-10 16:32
Good......I think the hat was pointing in the wrong direction here, I was defending the 400 foot li ...

I'm reading this thread on my phone so might have misread but that appears to be an exemption and in any case refers to article 166. Regulations are much tighter for rpas operated under article 167 which includes all rpas fitted with state capturing devices

Phantomski Posted at 2016-6-10 08:21
Clearly we have a superhero present! Sign him up for a free Phantom 6.3/4 model! That's the one tha ...

As I stated, try it yourself. Take it out and fly it across the face of a mountain. Have you never spotted a seagull flying at great distances. I cannot defend myself anymore than that. Let's make one thing clear, I said I could easily spot it, I didn't say that it looked like a phantom at that distance. Only that it was easy to spot, even after looking away. I didn't check my log before saying 1.8km. I pride myself on checking my facts before making statements. Clearly I put my foot in my mouth on this occasion, and was off by 500meters. I should have said 1.3km, and for that I apologize. As I replied to Ken, it was not my intent to deceive.

mickey.railcam Posted at 2016-6-10 16:52
I'm reading this thread on my phone so might have misread but that appears to be an exemption and  ...

The BMA specifically point to that as reference for FPV flying.