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daniel.roizer
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Hey,

I am going to Poland is October. Just wanted to know what the drone flying laws were in Poland?

I had a look online but couldnt find anything in English...

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Dan
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Hello Dan, hope you can find some Polish pilots here :http://forum.dji.com/thread-39714-1-1.html
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You can find links to the regulatory agency and laws in Poland

http://uavcoach.com/drone-laws-in-poland/

I don't understand Polish so I have no idea what it says
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huntcool001@gma Posted at 2016-6-27 11:25
You can find links to the regulatory agency and laws in Poland

http://uavcoach.com/drone-laws-in-po ...

Thanks I did find this but its all in Polish and I don't speak it either so don't understand ha
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Kyokushin
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This should help:

Overall info:
http://latajzglowa.pl/
http://ulc.gov.pl/pl/uav

The Law:
http://dziennikustaw.gov.pl/DU/2013/440/

local air map:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/vi ... Y_CkJNMIPw&hl=en_US


What do You want to exactly know? I can help.

The most important for You:
- You need a licence and insurance for commercial flights
- You need a permission to fly in CTR (in pansa, from tower, you must fill the form)
- You need a permission to fly in PDR zones or other active zones (map above)
- You need always to make all air operation in range of sight (VLOS)
- All other aircrafts have priority to uav.
- You need a permission to fly over the cities with 25 000 and more citizens.

Fly information services (they are pretty good in english):
http://www.fis.pansa.pl/?menu_lewe=fis&lang=_pl&opis=fis_kontakt


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Kyokushin Posted at 2016-6-27 13:00
This should help:

Overall info:

Cool! Thanks for your information.

I just wanted to know where I stand really. I am flying to Krakow and hoping to visit a few places. I guess as long as its safe and not in the built up city I will be fine to fly?

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Kyokushin
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Unfortunately Kraków have much more 25 000 citizens and you need to have a permission from the city government.
There is also large CTR zone (you need to fill the form few days before and get clearance from pansa). There is also ATZ zone where you need a permission to fly.
And remember about 5km radius over airports where you also need to permission to fly.

There is no big deal to fly even in CTR in Poland (procedures are easy and fast, without a problems), however be sure you have all of permissions before fly.
Because of global hystery in the media about UAV's you can expect local people who will ask about permissions etc, and police may check You.
Of course if you get permissions there will be no problem. Polish police is aware of UAV's activity over country.

And one more thing - before each start you need make a safe 'start and land' location, you just need to place something on the ground and tell local people to move away because of air operations.
TIP: in a City you can't just get a start and land location (because every inch of the street have owner and you cannot just restrict it to yourself, so you need to rent 1m^2 of place... its crazy), so a workaround is just a rent of a parking place (you need a ticket from parkmeter), and then you can place there your start/land location - this is good for city centres.
TIP2: Poland is homogenic country, so if you look a bit like african guy (a bread, dark carnation), then also get some vest with a text 'UAV operator', because if dont a local people can take you as some terrorist (Polish people are sensitive about that and they may react quickly if they will se a dark guy with a beard and some controll device with antennas ;) ). Of course if you are dark guy wih a bread then nobody will have something wrong to You - Polish people are friendly in most, but it looks how it looks in a matter of last events - in that case just wear 'uav vest'. In overall a 'uav operator' vest is a good way to avoid questions from passers, i am also using it from time to time.
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Kyokushin Posted at 2016-6-27 15:02
Unfortunately Kraków have much more 25 000 citizens and you need to have a permission from the city ...

You are right but z tym TIP2 to przegiąłęś.
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Hmm... cos mi sie zdaje ze nie jest az tak... Czesc Czlowieki z Polski!
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Kyokushin
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Jest jak jest. Nie moja wina że tak jest, ani ludzi.

The vest is a good things. Before using the vest i had a lot of questions 'what are you doing here? who are you? what is that device? have you permission? Show me your permission and ID!'. After wearing the 'uav operator' vest, the questions from passers stopped. There is no more questions from a old ladies with small dog and a 50+ guys in a green fishing vests with blns of pockets and hands crossed backside ;)

Daniel, if you have more questions, do not hesitate to ask.
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Kyokushin Posted at 2016-6-28 13:48
Jest jak jest. Nie moja wina że tak jest, ani ludzi.

The vest is a good things. Before using the v ...


Kyokushin, what will be the definition of "homogenic country"? Populated by overly paranoid, suspicious, racist, uncivilized, aggressive, unfriendly, indiscreet people? I know you try to help providing a lot of valuable information, but Jezu, this guy is probably changing vacation plans right now ...
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Kyokushin Posted at 2016-6-27 14:02
Unfortunately Kraków have much more 25 000 citizens and you need to have a permission from the city ...

Thanks for answering my questions.

No problem I will try and get permissions... I bet the form isn't in English is it as I speak 0 Polish ha - Can this be emailed to get the permission as I'm only there for 4 days...

Thanks for the tips. - I will definitely rent the parking space and no need to worry there, I don't meet the criteria for tip 2 but I do have a vest so will bring that just in case!

Thanks again
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Phantomski Posted at 2016-6-28 06:19
Hmm... cos mi sie zdaje ze nie jest az tak... Czesc Czlowieki z Polski!

Witaj przyjacielu.
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dobmatt Posted at 2016-6-28 10:22
Kyokushin, what will be the definition of "homogenic country"? Populated by overly paranoid, suspi ...

Homogenic means homogenic, nothing less, nothing more, and nothing negative of course. There are no raciscs or agressive people, there is just homogenic society. You may meet some suspicious, but i think in every country are some folks who are looking allday from a window behind the curtain

I wrote people are friendly, but i also wrote if he will look similar to the guy with the detonator (antennas in hand) then people can feel a bit confused They often are confused if a guy with polish look have controls in hands and some saucer is flying over him, so they will be more confused if that will do a folk with a beard and africian look. So thats why is good to have an 'uav operator' vest. You just look with the vest more 'professional', as a folk from tv or something.

This have nothing to the racists, agressive actions - Poland is friendly country to everyone
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Kyokushin
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daniel.roizer Posted at 2016-6-28 10:35
Thanks for answering my questions.

No problem I will try and get permissions... I bet the form ...

Happy holidays! I have hope you will like a Poland

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Kyokushin Posted at 2016-6-28 13:45
Happy holidays! I have hope you will like a Poland

Thanks Im sure I will!
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I did not go to Poland, this year, but may go next year, and yes, if I manage, i may take my DJI.. I assume at countryside flying should be no issue, but in Warsaw, Wroclaw, I may have to follow some rules.. we will see if things change any in a year. In the meantime, happy flying all!
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A thread I did some time to locate Polish Pilots.. Did not quite work out, but it's still there ;) http://forum.dji.com/thread-52916-1-1.html Zapraszam. Jak nic innego bedziemy mieli tam swoje Avatarki i niki, wiec jakby co bedzie sie mozna znalezc ;)
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Phantomski Posted at 2016-6-28 17:10
I did not go to Poland, this year, but may go next year, and yes, if I manage, i may take my DJI.. I ...

Yes, there is a change in our air-law planned for this (or next) year. For naw the new rules are in the legislation process.
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Kyokushin Posted at 2016-6-28 22:50
Yes, there is a change in our air-law planned for this (or next) year. For naw the new rules are i ...

Kyokushin - If possible can you help me apply for the permit to fly?

Thanks
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Kyokushin
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Okay, i will try.
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Not sure where I download the form from and where I need to send it to?
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Kyokushin
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http://www.pansa.pl/index.php?me ... l&opis=OPS/ops_info - overall info

You need to fill and send the form at least 3 days before start
fax: +48-22-574-5713
e-mail: asm1@pansa.pl
or
Polska Agencja Żeglugi Powietrznej
Ośrodek Planowania Strategicznego ASM1
ul. Wieżowa 8
02-147 Warszawa

http://www.pansa.pl/index.php?me ... =OPS/ops_formularze
first form: "Zgłoszenie przeprowadzenia lotów bezzałogowych statków powietrznych w warunkach VLOS o masie nie większej niż 25kg, wykonywanych w przestrzeni CTR"

You can also mail them at above e-mail for a details - in English.
or call:
Tel.: (+ 48 22) 574-57-21
Tel.: (+ 48 22) 574-57-23
Tel.: (+ 48 22) 574-57-24
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