If we cannot get this hobby self-regulated, and weed out the fruitloops, the authorities worldwide will have no choice but to blanket ban us from the skys. No one in their right mind has a reason to climb their drone to 4000+ feet above the ground.
From CNN this morning:

London (CNN)

  

A passenger plane narrowly avoided colliding with a drone while flying near London's tallest skyscraper, according to a recently published report.

  

The A320 plane was descending toward Heathrow Airport in July when the drone was spotted from the cockpit window, according to the UK Airport Board report.

  

The plane was flying at an altitude of 4,600 feet (1,402 meters) near the Shard skyscraper in central London when the 50-centimeter (19-inch) drone was spotted.

  

A "very near-miss"

  

The pilot said the risk of collision was "high" in the report released last Friday. The authors of the report also classified the incident as a "very near-miss" and said that "chance had played a major part."

  

They added that the drone operator could not be traced.

  

The incident is one of dozens of near-misses reported to the UK Airport Board each month.

  In a separate incident, also in July, a drone came within five meters (16 feet) of an A319 passenger plane taking off from Britain's Liverpool Airport.

good point, what would you think about a penalty of 50.000 $ and you lose all your driver licenses (Car/boad/plane etc) if you fly in no fly zones etc. And 2nd  age must be above 18 years, or only if supervised by an person above 18.
I think this hobby gets more and more difficult if we have this monkey flying this kind of UAV.
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OleDrone Posted at 2016-11-17 06:38
good point, what would you think about a penalty of 50.000 $ and you lose all your driver licenses ( ...

I agree. $50,000 fine and they sell your possessions to pay the bill. Then, 24 months in prison. Give you a little time to think about it.
Pain is an excellent learning tool. Remember when you put your fingers on the hot stove? You don't do that anymore, do you?

hmm.. how tall was the building, how close to it was the drone? U know, there are variables, like no fly zone, if close to the building (better), then the airplane should not be near, if in approach path, extra caution, so on and so forth... If the pilot reported he saw a drone, but did not mention that the drone was within 50 meters of the building, well.. that's not reporting all the facts, so blame may be on both sides... those are the things pple need to think about - also the whole see, avoid, whatever...  b ut totally agree, drone pilots need to take responsibility for being cautious, or the rules will only get worse.. once the rules are horrible, then no one will look at whether there was a plane near, but whether the rules were broken, and then we are on the way out......
I do not think pple realize that an action of a handful of pple can affect everyone else.. the typical selfish thinking of humans...

An old News, also BBC Tech on Twitter also mentioned it. They have nothing else is to report, Trump is chosen as a President, England is on Brexit, Germany has still Merkel, no World Cup or Olympics for a while and the rest of the world news no one is interested.

Media for you, they have no evidences other than someone saw something. I see many things every day but I keep quiet, don't you..? {:4_117:}

While people like you keep spouting the media BS we have no hope. I'm with the fruitloops. Fruitloops for President

Matt-and-Riley Posted at 2016-11-17 16:15
While people like you keep spouting the media BS we have no hope. I'm with the fruitloops. Fruitloop ...

"Fruitloops for President "

Too late....

Phantomski Posted at 2016-11-17 07:26
hmm.. how tall was the building, how close to it was the drone? U know, there are variables, like no ...

The plane and the drone were several thousand feet above the top of the skyscraper. I don't even know why the building is mentioned.

Drones, buildings, and planes for president!

Yes, media sensationalizes everything.. only way to get ratings anymore, I guess... but that is what will hurt drone market if we are not careful....

What behaviour?
The main behaviour I see in that story is the tendency to call anything unidentified or imagined seen by a pilot, a drone.
The number of drones that can make it to 4000+ feet is much smaller than the number that are reported up there.
The US FAA drone incident database has daily reports up to 20000ft and some even visible 3 miles away.
Clearly they are not drones.
Last week's report from Canada had a drone 15 miles out over one of the great lakes and 2 miles high.
The behaviour that needs to be encouraged is a healthy dose of skepticism and realistic understanding of drone flight in dealing with reports.
As it is, pilots are being convinced there is a swarm of drones up there and so they see them.

Labroides Posted at 2016-11-17 23:00
What behaviour?
The main behaviour I see in that story is the tendency to call anything unidentified ...

HAHAHAHA this thing is amazing man, i will use this as My Avatar on WhatsApp

Labroides Posted at 2016-11-17 14:00
What behaviour?
The main behaviour I see in that story is the tendency to call anything unidentified ...

Can you add a plastic shopping bag to that chart?

If there was a drone anywhere near the Shard then it shouldn't have been there at any height.  Central London is essentially a no fly zone with only a few commercial operators allowed to fly there (and that's with massive redendancy and safety features built into their drones and Ops Manual procedures.). In all likelihood it was another case of mistaken identity.  If however there was a rogue up there, there are few punishments I wouldn't consider for the perpetrator.

I wonder if large birds know its illegal to fly near an airport ...

If you are interested in seeing the reports of drones please visit
https://www.airproxboard.org.uk/ ... ly-Airprox-reviews/
Lots of drone reports and other interesting near misses

People are now starting to mistakenly tag UFO's as drones.  This also proves that the extra terrestrials have also infiltrated the media.

Glad the plane was OK.   Poor birds though - feathers will fly.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/trave ... angled-engines.html

Well, many here are quite correct that there's a media frenzy on demonizing drones, and assigning any airborne object as a drone.. After all we all know that some viruses are carried by micro drones, right?
Still, the point of the post, I think, was to turn us onto the idea of how important it is to fly as responsibly and as close to the rules as one can - as the market of drones and their use is under extreme scrutiny, and everything is blown out of proportion immediately.. hence some Scandinavian and Asian countries just outlaw the things completely...  we got to build the image to be a more respected one... Behave, educate, be respectful, and so on... Surprisingly - most people are open to a conversation, and once they see a bit of it, they are amazed at it, and not so paranoid about it, once they see there's no optical zoom - unlike on helicopters, which we all know were designed by Devil himself ;) No.. not really ;)

I'm sure the plane which was going in for a landing was going well over 100mph. How could the pilot tell it was a 19inch drone, let alone even see it?

Jake Phantom 3  Posted at 2016-11-23 09:40
I'm sure the plane which was going in for a landing was going well over 100mph. How could the pilot  ...

If you drive down the highway at 100 mph, do you think that you can't see birds and other detail on any objects like ... road signs, licence plates etc?

LMAO!  I love how they had TIME TO MEASURE the 19-inch drone.  AND the exact 16-feet distance from yet another A320 series A/C.

BOTH of those measurements are the by-product of a bull.

Labroides Posted at 2016-11-17 14:00
What behaviour?
The main behaviour I see in that story is the tendency to call anything unidentified ...

OMG, I laughed SO HARD when I saw this!  I'm forwarding this to ALL of my pilot buddies.