Poor quality satellite imagery from HERE MAPS?
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pedro05
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I have not yet tried DJI GO 4 but understand that it uses mapping from HERE rather than from Google. I had a look at the satellite imagery available from HERE in southern UK. It is older, lower resolution and more blurred than that from Google. See attached comparison (google on left, HERE on right).

This is a very big problem for me. I will not use DJI GO 4 if this is the quality of the aerials.
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Nigel_
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At some point it will be updated and then Google will look poor and out of date until Google next update theirs!   

Which is most up to date just depends on which was updated last in the area you are looking at.

Several years ago Here had a problem with a lot of cloud obscuring the ground in parts of UK but most of that has disappeared, places that were cloud covered in the last update now use older and less detailed photos than the more recent stuff, but the same applies to Google too.

Even Google can't do real time photos so you can find where you parked your car and check that it is still safe!
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G1DTF
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The Here maps are also of poor quality compared to google here in Yorkshire. It would be nice they they gave a choice of either using google or here maps especially now they have forced the update to 3.1.3 making the here maps mandatory.
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If you use an Apple device instead of Android, then you get Google Maps.
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G1DTF
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Which makes the decision by DJI to use Here maps rather than Google maps on android  even more rediculous
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Yes ... Here Maps is generally inferior to Google maps .... but does that really make any difference to your flying?
After hundreds of flights totaling over 1500 kilometres in three years, I think I've only ever used the map twice.
It's not like it's of critical importance when you're flying.
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G1DTF
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Not critical to flying by any means but if a feature is included why not have the best available solution which for me is definitely not here maps which are both of extremely poor definition and outdated for my area compared to google.
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G1DTF Posted at 2017-2-27 18:43
Not critical to flying by any means but if a feature is included why not have the best available solution which for me is definitely not here maps which are both of extremely poor definition and outdated for my area compared to google.

Google charge you to use their mapping system, not you, but the developer of the code. DJI probably decided they did not want to pay the licensing fees any longer. I imagine a HERE maps license is free or near to it, as no-one in their right mind would pay for them.
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G1DTF
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So why as you stated do they still use Google maps on apple devices
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G1DTF Posted at 2017-2-27 18:52
So why as you stated do they still use Google maps on apple devices

Well, the app for Apple or iOS devices is completely different to that for Android, there may be some other reason why Google Maps are used in Apple devices.
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Geebax Posted at 2017-2-27 18:22
If you use an Apple device instead of Android, then you get Google Maps.

I do use an ipad Air2. Are you saying that DJI GO 3.1.3 and 4 on iOS still uses Google maps. Note I am interested in the satellite imagery not the maps as such.
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Labroides Posted at 2017-2-27 18:35
Yes ... Here Maps is generally inferior to Google maps .... but does that really make any difference to your flying?
After hundreds of flights totaling over 1500 kilometres in three years, I think I've only ever used the map twice.
It's not like it's of critical importance when you're flying.

Well everyone is different. It certainly makes a big difference to me because I often fly looking most of the time at the satellite view on the tablet.
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pedro05 Posted at 2017-2-28 10:08
Well everyone is different. It certainly makes a big difference to me because I often fly looking most of the time at the satellite view on the tablet.

The only point of the map is to know where you are at, personally I think everyone makes this into a larger issue than it needs to be. Either map vendor gives us enough detail to figure out where you're at. Can't understand why anyone needs a high res image to get their bearings. And if you need a good res image for some reason it's right there as a FPV image.
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Labroides Posted at 2017-2-27 18:35
Yes ... Here Maps is generally inferior to Google maps .... but does that really make any difference to your flying?
After hundreds of flights totaling over 1500 kilometres in three years, I think I've only ever used the map twice.
It's not like it's of critical importance when you're flying.

Same here, I'm on the FPV image more with most of my flight as well. I might switch over to the map once in a while if I'm wanting to confirm where I'm at if in doubt. And either map vendor works for that confirmation.
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If higher resolution satellite images are important to some, perhaps DJI could offer Google Maps as a "for cost" addition to their FREE APP.  In reality; if you are willing to pay for the slightly better resolution you can, as I understand it,  buy the Litchi APP which reportedly still uses Google imagery.
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I'm struggling with those maps too. As I mentioned on another post, I can't confirm the RTH point is accurate so haven't taken off for about three months.
Google was excellent.
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Anthonyg Posted at 2017-3-7 11:35
I'm struggling with those maps too. As I mentioned on another post, I can't confirm the RTH point is accurate so haven't taken off for about three months.
Google was excellent.

LOL.  The RTH point is taken by the drone when you launch.  It uses GPS not the maps. Sounds like you looked for an excuse not the fly.
I fly everyday if I can usually about an hour a day. Never used the maps.  
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It is reassuring to see on the map that ''Home point recorded '' is in the same place as you are so if you needed a RTH , you would know it's coming back to where you want it to return to.
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Anthonyg Posted at 2017-3-7 12:45
It is reassuring to see on the map that ''Home point recorded '' is in the same place as you are so if you needed a RTH , you would know it's coming back to where you want it to return to.

Why would it not be?   Also even if you move yourself and the RC to a new location you can go to the APP and set a new home point.  Read all about it.  So you could walk 500m to a new location and set a new home point in flight.  You see home point updated when you launch on your Go APP.
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Ive read about it.
I don't know why it wouldn't be but I've read on here that sometimes it is not, that's why some people have lost their drones. When it returns home to an incorrect home point.
If I can see the H  on the map, where I am stood, I'll  know where it's coming home too.
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RtinTN
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This is the area I fly quite a bit.
Pretty useless.
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WilliamM
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RtinTN Posted at 2017-3-7 14:41
This is the area I fly quite a bit.
Pretty useless.

Here you go, print out and tape to your device screen.

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WilliamM Posted at 2017-3-7 15:28
Here you go, print out and tape to your device screen.
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Thanks william, very helpful.
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Anthonyg Posted at 2017-3-7 13:28
Ive read about it.
I don't know why it wouldn't be but I've read on here that sometimes it is not, that's why some people have lost their drones. When it returns home to an incorrect home point.
If I can see the H  on the map, where I am stood, I'll  know where it's coming home too.

Well you misunderstood then. There was an issue with 3.1.2 ver 581 that caused some people to have the home point changed. This has been fixed and it's why DJI forced everyone to update to the latest version app.

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This is all very true.   My Mavic uses the google and the P4P+ maps SUCK.   Where I live in Ohio the google maps are updated and look very good on the Ipad with the Mavic. I wish they would swithch over for the Plus.  Also, I was hoping the newest update would allow Litchi or GSpro. NOTHING... come on, whats going on with that?
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RtinTN Posted at 2017-3-8 04:39
Thanks william, very helpful.

Of course I was just messing with you, lol. But I do hope you can find a better place to fly then there with all those homes that were under that cloud.
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Thanks for the advice.
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