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AndyP.
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The title says it all.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bzzbdh_sgKfuLXpla3RLdTNEc00/view?usp=sharing
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Pretty rich neighborhood, each and everyone of the house has it's own pool.  Nice video by the way.
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Lucas775 Posted at 2017-6-6 17:14
Pretty rich neighborhood, each and everyone of the house has it's own pool.  Nice video by the way.

thanks a lot
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Those were fun to watch, but you stopped before we got to find out if they came back for the guy. You had to have a cliffhanger for the next episode, though, right?
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DroneFlying Posted at 2017-6-6 18:23
Those were fun to watch, but you stopped before we got to find out if they came back for the guy. You had to have a cliffhanger for the next episode, though, right?

he got back, the SD card ran out of storage
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Where is it? All the houses have their own swimming pool.
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i think you shouldn't record so close over your neighbors property and share that with the internets.
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UCBarkeeper Posted at 2017-6-7 05:37
i think you shouldn't record so close over your neighbors property and share that with the internets.

I don't know, I personally enjoyed the part at 6:47 where his neighbor was nude sunbathing!  
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UCBarkeeper Posted at 2017-6-7 05:37
i think you shouldn't record so close over your neighbors property and share that with the internets.

the video is deceiving, i was well over 150 feet when recording this. my entire neighborhood already knows about me and my drones, and they've expressed that as long as i'm not flying specifically into someone's backyard they'll have no problem.
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Well that was surprisingly very interesting. Who knew watching the bin lorry (trash truck) could be so fascinating... or maybe peaking into back yards was what really interested me.
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Yes, those are some Fancy Shacks alright.  But I missed why you are spying on your garbage guys?  Are you trying to catch them doing something they shouldn't?
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Lobstah Mobstah Posted at 2017-6-7 05:50
I don't know, I personally enjoyed the part at 6:47 where his neighbor was nude sunbathing!

Damn, you made go back and look . . . . {:4_157:}
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Hella rich!!   

Those are like 2 million dollar houses easy, more like 4 million

If this was filmed in California
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AndyP. Posted at 2017-6-7 10:30
the video is deceiving, i was well over 150 feet when recording this. my entire neighborhood already knows about me and my drones, and they've expressed that as long as i'm not flying specifically into someone's backyard they'll have no problem.

Exactly - the whole privacy issue is a bit off the bat in my opinion. However - if someone is a politician he/she could have a problem with you filming from the air when they're having a moment with their dog or something similar. I'm not a public figure so I honestly don't care one bit - if you really want to see my naked ass it's your problem, not mine ;-)
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Different..
"I personally enjoyed the part at 6:47 where his neighbor was nude sunbathing!"
What video did you watch?  The most exciting bit for me was the swan 1m in..  Then I kept thinking "they needed a compactor to keep all that rubbish in the lorry", then I started thinking "don't rick folk create a lot of rubbish", then I started thinking "they can't be that rich as they all have their big bath tubs outside and is that not a bit like having an outside toilet?"
Then I thought "run forest run".. and finally I thought "dam..  another to be continued"
Thoughts of the day...
I am pretty sure you're below 45m chap.. (mavic has the equivalent of a 28 mm lens), but I'll believe you (as I really don't care).
"they've expressed that as long as i'm not flying specifically into someone's backyard they'll have no problem"
ok, I am not sure about this either.. they may be being polite... or said they are ok with it, while also thinking he won't make it public and let's not cause a fuss..   Why do I think this?  Well for folks who are not bothered by privacy, they certainly love their high fences and gated areas and are not fans of open plan gardens..  but hey it's cool.. you've put it on google drive and dronaddicts read this forum..
:-)  happy days.. Glad you're enjoying the mavic..
Thanks for sharing..

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There is no issue with privacy here. In the every jurisdiction in the United States that I'm familiar with you're within your rights to take photographs or video of people on public property, which includes streets and alleys. And in the state that the OP was apparently flying in it's legal to incidentally capture (as happened here) private property or people on that property. "Surveillance" with "intent" of private property or people on it requires permission, but in my opinion there's nothing in this video that could get the OP in trouble. Comments to the contrary regarding videos like this seem to almost always come from people who live in Europe. I'm guessing that privacy laws there are somewhat less relaxed, but where he flew it isn't a problem.
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it's not about the law, it's about common sense.
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UCBarkeeper Posted at 2017-6-8 06:00
it's not about the law, it's about common sense.

One person's "common sense" is another's "stupidity". In other words, what you think is acceptable (or not) may be entirely different from what someone else thinks, which is why we have laws.

Besides, it's also "common sense" that one shouldn't repeatedly create short, snarky drive-by posts and then disappear from the discussion . . . but that doesn't stop some people from doing it anyway, now does it?
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DroneFlying Posted at 2017-6-8 04:46
There is no issue with privacy here. In the every jurisdiction in the United States that I'm familiar with you're within your rights to take photographs or video of people on public property, which includes streets and alleys. And in the state that the OP was apparently flying in it's legal to incidentally capture (as happened here) private property or people on that property. "Surveillance" with "intent" of private property or people on it requires permission, but in my opinion there's nothing in this video that could get the OP in trouble. Comments to the contrary regarding videos like this seem to almost always come from people who live in Europe, some I'm guessing that privacy laws there are somewhat less relaxed, but where he flew it isn't a problem.

Is this a US vs Europe thing? Maybe I'm just reading you wrong but I honestly didn't think anyone was taking a dig at the OP. I know I wasn't, just fascinated by the fab homes and the people at work.
Anyway, have a great day.
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Boardtalk Posted at 2017-6-8 11:50
Is this a US vs Europe thing? Maybe I'm just reading you wrong but I honestly didn't think anyone was taking a dig at the OP. I know I wasn't, just fascinated by the fab homes and the people at work.
Anyway, have a great day.

It isn't "versus" anything except in the context of a comparison and something I've noticed. When someone posts a video like this, it's almost inevitable that comments will come up regarding the appropriateness or legality of the video. And as I said before, those comments seem to come much more frequently from forum members who are shown as being in Europe, so I'm guessing that privacy laws in this area are more strict in Europe than in the United States. That's just a personal and subjective observation, and no offense was intended so I'm not sure why you seem a little sensitive about the topic. In any case, nothing I said was aimed at your particular comment given that as far as I can tell you weren't commenting on either the appropriateness or legality of the video.
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DroneFlying Posted at 2017-6-8 12:05
It isn't "versus" anything except in the context of a comparison and something I've noticed. When someone posts a video like this, it's almost inevitable that comments will come up regarding the appropriateness or legality of the video. And as I said before, those comments seem to come much more frequently from forum members who are shown as being in Europe, so I'm guessing that privacy laws in this area are more strict in Europe than in the United States. That's just a personal and subjective observation, and no offense was intended so I'm not sure why you seem a little sensitive about the topic. In any case, nothing I said was aimed at your particular comment given that as far as I can tell you weren't commenting on either the appropriateness or legality of the video.

To be honest I haven't noticed the difference you mention and in relation to the 'versus', that was meant in jest. Maybe you are the one who's 'a little sensitive'.
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Boardtalk Posted at 2017-6-8 12:52
To be honest I haven't noticed the difference you mention and in relation to the 'versus', that was meant in jest. Maybe you are the one who's 'a little sensitive'.

No, I just think it's a good idea for people to take into account that laws and cultural norms vary before commenting, especially if the comment is implicitly or explicitly critical.
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onetyme Posted at 2017-6-7 19:37
Hella rich!!   

Those are like 2 million dollar houses easy, more like 4 million

those houses range in the 300k to 600k range
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Petroboy Posted at 2017-6-7 13:24
Yes, those are some Fancy Shacks alright.  But I missed why you are spying on your garbage guys?  Are you trying to catch them doing something they shouldn't?

no i was just following them to practice filming a moving object
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DroneFlying Posted at 2017-6-8 04:46
There is no issue with privacy here. In the every jurisdiction in the United States that I'm familiar with you're within your rights to take photographs or video of people on public property, which includes streets and alleys. And in the state that the OP was apparently flying in it's legal to incidentally capture (as happened here) private property or people on that property. "Surveillance" with "intent" of private property or people on it requires permission, but in my opinion there's nothing in this video that could get the OP in trouble. Comments to the contrary regarding videos like this seem to almost always come from people who live in Europe, some I'm guessing that privacy laws there are somewhat less relaxed, but where he flew it isn't a problem.

This was flown in Texas, where we have a 1 party recording consent law, which mean as long as i consent to the recording, there isn't anything the recorded can do.
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Boardtalk Posted at 2017-6-8 11:50
Is this a US vs Europe thing? Maybe I'm just reading you wrong but I honestly didn't think anyone was taking a dig at the OP. I know I wasn't, just fascinated by the fab homes and the people at work.
Anyway, have a great day.

This was filmed in Texas, USA
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Big houses but a bit cramped.
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AndyP. Posted at 2017-6-8 16:18
This was flown in Texas, where we have a 1 party recording consent law, which mean as long as i consent to the recording, there isn't anything the recorded can do.

Yes, I guessed that (it was done in Texas) because I saw your other thread with a photo you mentioned was taken in or near Dallas.

The one-party consent you mentioned relates to the recording of "wire, oral, or electronic" communications: for example, face-to-face conversations, phone calls, or email: Texas Recording Law

On the other hand, the Texas Privacy Act (Government Code 423) is what applies to videos and photos captured by drones.
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VMav Posted at 2017-6-8 18:47
Big houses but a bit cramped.

Is actually a lot roomier than you'd think
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DroneFlying Posted at 2017-6-8 19:02
Yes, I guessed that (it was done in Texas) because I saw your other thread with a photo you mentioned was taken in or near Dallas.

The one-party consent you mentioned relates to the recording of "wire, oral, or electronic" communications: for example, face-to-face conversations, phone calls, or email: Texas Recording Law

Huh, thanks for the heads up, I guess I should have done my homework ahead of time before spouting legislature.
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AndyP. Posted at 2017-6-8 19:02
Is actually a lot roomier than you'd think

I'm talking about size of properties not sq.ft of the houses. Maybe half an acre tops (or even less) so that houses stand too close together - cramped.
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Any way you twist the facts  - if one of your neighbors decides to bath with her top off and you publish it - you'll need a lawyer and maybe spend a few night is jail . . . .

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BoomStrike Posted at 2017-6-9 04:10
Any way you twist the facts  - if one of your neighbors decides to bath with her top off and you publish it - you'll need a lawyer and maybe spend a few night is jail . . . .

Regards

No facts have been twisted. In Texas -- where this was filmed -- it would depend. As I wrote earlier, if he just happened to film this hypothetical neighbor while flying over her property there'd be no problem. On the other hand, if he hovered specifically for the purpose of filming her ("surveillance" with "intent") and then posted it online he might have a problem.

I posted a link to the relevant law; do you have something besides your (obviously layman's) opinion to refute it? Can you provide a cite to show where anyone anywhere in the U.S. ever spent "a few night is jail" for filming someone in a scenario like this?
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Civil law suits have nothing to with drone use and their regulations - you're not allowed to video tape a person in the privacy own thier own home and broadcast . . Period!

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BoomStrike Posted at 2017-6-9 05:02
Civil law suits have nothing to with drone use and their regulations - you're not allowed to video tape a person in the privacy own thier own home and broadcast . . Period!

Thanks

"Period!" is rarely applicable to the law, and it definitely isn't as clear cut in this case as you seem to think. For example, if you do a little research you'll quickly find that in most places in the U.S. it's legal to photograph or videotape anything or anyone visible from public property (e.g., a street). And I've already provided a link to the relevant Texas law regarding media captured by drones, so you only have to read what's there.

Yes, anyone can file a civil suit against anyone else for pretty much anything, but again, can you provide a cite to show where something like this has ever happened to any drone pilot anywhere in the U.S.? And in case you're still looking for cites to support your "few night is jail" comment, I should confess that was just a red herring and that you won't find any.


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Enjoy this video....nice looking
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Read my Lips - I've been at this a a lot longer than you and seen numerous court cases. Those people did not install a privacy fence on their property for fun - its for privacy and you are violating their rights!

Mike  
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BoomStrike Posted at 2017-6-9 08:13
Read my Lips - I've been at this a a lot longer than you and seen numerous court cases. Those people did not install a privacy fence on their property for fun - its for privacy and you are violating their rights!

Mike

How can I read your lips if I can't see them. And fences are from a bygone age,  we live in the age of flying cameras.
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BoomStrike Posted at 2017-6-9 08:13
Read my Lips - I've been at this a a lot longer than you and seen numerous court cases. Those people did not install a privacy fence on their property for fun - its for privacy and you are violating their rights!

Mike

Most likely those people installed their fences to Mark out their property and the extent of it.
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BoomStrike Posted at 2017-6-9 08:13
Read my Lips - I've been at this a a lot longer than you and seen numerous court cases. Those people did not install a privacy fence on their property for fun - its for privacy and you are violating their rights!

Mike

Also these houses for build anywhere from between the 1960s to the 1990s. I know my house was built in the 80s.
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