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After the updateprosess will it be possible to operate the drone in the "middle of nowere" ? i have no cell coverage the i am normaly fly.


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Antonio76
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You don't need internet for flying.
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FuZZyPiLOT
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I don't believe it will be possible. If you cannot login to application then yer more or less grounded.
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DJI-Mark
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You did not say which Phantom you own but all are close connectivity between aircraft and your mobile device. I actually have flown in areas of no service and did just fine. Just be mindful of anything that suggests magnetic interference.
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Kneepuck
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Where I live, there is no cell service at all.  My internet is from dsl modem on telephone line.  I fly nearly every day with no possibility of an internet connection.  I never have any trouble.  The only effect is I get no maps in the Go app.  Everything else is fine.
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Capo
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I believe you just need to log in once after the update. After that you can fly without Internet connectivity.
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Labroides
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DJI-Mark Posted at 2017-6-8 12:14
You did not say which Phantom you own but all are close connectivity between aircraft and your mobile device. I actually have flown in areas of no service and did just fine. Just be mindful of anything that suggests magnetic interference.

Everyone knows that you could previously fly without an internet connection but the question was prompted by the wording of point 3 from the latest firmware update for the P4 pro, which says:

3. To ensure safety, the flight will be limited to 30 m height and 50 m distance if you’re not connected or logged into to the DJI GO 4 app during flight.

It would be good to have some clarification from DJI to explain what this actually means rather than leaving it for all kinds of paranoid interpretations.
Do you now need an internet connection to fly - or is the wording above incorrect?
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DJI-Mark
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The wording has more to do with use of the Go 4 App rather then internet connectivity. You need to be logged in to the Go 4 App.
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DJI-Mark Posted at 2017-6-8 14:04
The wording has more to do with use of the Go 4 App rather then internet connectivity. You need to be logged in to the Go 4 App.

That's still confusing and would suggest that you can't fly with 3rd party apps.
I'd be surprised if that's the case but it could be interpreted that way (and the more paranoid members will)
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FLight restrictions

I'm updating to the latest no fly zone restrictions. I've a couple of questions on the notice that without the DJI Go 4 app, or another DJI app, the flight of the drone will be restricted to within 30m height and within 50m laterally of the homepoint.

So this means if I try to fly the drone only with the remote controller - then my flight is restricted? Do i Have this correct?

If the app I am using crashes mid flight - further than the 30m and 50m restrictions - then what is the behavior of the drone? Does the drone hover in place, return to home, or land? While the drone is doing the default action after the app crashes, then do I have the option to regain control and fly the drone to the home point or land the drone safely?



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Please post in a thread that has already been started about this topic.
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FuZZyPiLOT Posted at 2017-6-8 12:08
I don't believe it will be possible. If you cannot login to application then yer more or less grounded.

Please do not post misleading information if you do not know.  I fly at altitudes above 10000 feet in the wilderness with no cell phone towers or internet.

The DJO Go app only connects to the RC you do not need cell phone or internet to fly.

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Maritimer
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I'm assuming if theres a GPS signal you can fly your drone?
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FuZZyPiLOT
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Maritimer Posted at 2017-6-8 15:58
I'm assuming if theres a GPS signal you can fly your drone?

You can fly without GPS just in ATTI mode.
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blackcrusader Posted at 2017-6-8 15:49
Please do not post misleading information if you do not know.  I fly at altitudes above 10000 feet in the wilderness with no cell phone towers or internet.

The DJO Go app only connects to the RC you do not need cell phone or internet to fly.

Everyone knows that you could previously fly without an internet connection but the question was prompted by the wording of point 3 from the latest firmware update for the P4 pro, which says:

3. To ensure safety, the flight will be limited to 30 m height and 50 m distance if you’re not connected or logged into to the DJI GO 4 app during flight.

It would be good to have some clarification from DJI to explain what this actually means rather than leaving it for all kinds of paranoid interpretations.
Do you now need an internet connection to fly - or is the wording above incorrect?
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blackcrusader
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My flight today. 248m height and 1.5km distance from launch on dive boat.  Over the ocean.  No internet no 3g/4g.
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blackcrusader Posted at 2017-6-8 15:49
Please do not post misleading information if you do not know.  I fly at altitudes above 10000 feet in the wilderness with no cell phone towers or internet.

The DJO Go app only connects to the RC you do not need cell phone or internet to fly.

10.000ft? I find that hard to believe
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eColumbia01 Posted at 2017-6-8 15:34
I'm updating to the latest no fly zone restrictions. I've a couple of questions on the notice that without the DJI Go 4 app, or another DJI app, the flight of the drone will be restricted to within 30m height and within 50m laterally of the homepoint.

So this means if I try to fly the drone only with the remote controller - then my flight is restricted? Do i Have this correct?

only if you are flying without being signed into the app...do not sign out of the app, simple.

if you do not sign in, you run the risk of losing the connectiion between the drone and repeater which is why DJI have safely said 30-50m...this is rudimentary stuff, very basic....this is another reason why you should never sign out of the app..without internet the only thing missing is the maps cache....this is like beginners stuff
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Thunderbirdsarego Posted at 2018-3-15 05:38
10.000ft? I find that hard to believe

Why do you find that hard to believe? I live in the mountains that peak at 13000 feet.  I can launch with home points already above 10,000 feet altitude.
That video I posted is of Jade Mountain which peaks at 3952m just under 13000 feet.  Well above 10,000 feet Altitude where I was flying my drone.








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Thunderbirdsarego Posted at 2018-3-15 05:47
only if you are flying without being signed into the app...do not sign out of the app, simple.

if you do not sign in, you run the risk of losing the connectiion between the drone and repeater which is why DJI have safely said 30-50m...this is rudimentary stuff, very basic....this is another reason why you should never sign out of the app..without internet the only thing missing is the maps cache....this is like beginners stuff

'if you do not sign in, you run the risk of losing the connectiion between the drone and repeater which is why DJI have safely said 30-50m...this is rudimentary stuff, very basic.'

Except that it is not correct. There is no such thing as a 'repeater' in the system. The only reason DJI want you to log in is so they can know who is flying the aircraft if you do somethying illegal while flying.
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Geebax Posted at 2018-3-18 18:23
'if you do not sign in, you run the risk of losing the connectiion between the drone and repeater which is why DJI have safely said 30-50m...this is rudimentary stuff, very basic.'

Except that it is not correct. There is no such thing as a 'repeater' in the system. The only reason DJI want you to log in is so they can know who is flying the aircraft if you do somethying illegal while flying.

Thanks for correcting the misinformation being given out.  A lot of people really do not understand.

In fact you can fly the drone without the DJI App just using the remote control.  OK if you want to practice ATTI mode flights in a small area in a clear line of sight.  
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Something strange happened to me yesterday. With the Ipod on airplane mode, it still told me there was an DJI Go app update... It wouldn't fly further than 30 meters until I connected it to the internet. When I did, no update to be seen anywhere. It flew fine after that. Good thing my trip into the middle of nowhere got canceled, because that would have been 5000$ wasted on flights, preperations and so forth. I'm getting less and less impressed with DJI every time I fly. Had nothing but massive headaches with the latest updates.

As someone smartly said, I'm glad my car doesn't have firmware updates every time I turn it on and tell me I can't drive more than 30 meters.. Idiotic.
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Bobthebuilder1 Posted at 2018-6-18 07:57
Something strange happened to me yesterday. With the Ipod on airplane mode, it still told me there was an DJI Go app update... It wouldn't fly further than 30 meters until I connected it to the internet. When I did, no update to be seen anywhere. It flew fine after that. Good thing my trip into the middle of nowhere got canceled, because that would have been 5000$ wasted on flights, preperations and so forth. I'm getting less and less impressed with DJI every time I fly. Had nothing but massive headaches with the latest updates.

As someone smartly said, I'm glad my car doesn't have firmware updates every time I turn it on and tell me I can't drive more than 30 meters.. Idiotic.

I'm getting less and less impressed with DJI every time I fly
So do the smart thing and turn off auto-updates for your phone or tablet.
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Labroides Posted at 2018-6-18 13:03
I'm getting less and less impressed with DJI every time I fly
So do the smart thing and turn off auto-updates for your phone or tablet.

Exactly.  Turn off auto updates especially if you are iPhone/iPad, as you can't go back to a previous version as you can with Android devices.  

I am hoping that DJI did not change anything and this is a wording issue.  

In the past, with DJIgo4, once you logged in the first time, you stayed logged in, even without internet service.  I have not updated my P4 Pro firmware or the app.  

The P4 Pro Vr 2.0 only has the base firmware for now, no upgrades have been issued that I know of.  However there is another post here where someone had a P4 Pro Vr2.0, new, that worked fine for the first few flights, but then only would go 30 50, as if they needed to log back in.

It would be nice to get some clarification on this.

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