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Szwedu
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In the user manual 1.2 you can find everywhere that in activetrac or gesture mode resolution of the photos are wooping 1440x1080!? Why I am learning that now not at the premiere... The whole thing is starting to not make sense
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Sorry for the picture
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Its borderline false advertising but they don't claim that images captured using gestures are at 12mp. I'm stuck on the fence if I should cancel my order or not but this is a new product. I'm sure they will iron out the kinks. I just hope they sort out the follow gesture to allow it to start recording video when you wave it away so it follows and records you.
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I guess that explains how they are going to address the photo res difference.
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Malakai_UK Posted at 2017-6-23 04:01
Its borderline false advertising but they don't claim that images captured using gestures are at 12mp. I'm stuck on the fence if I should cancel my order or not but this is a new product. I'm sure they will iron out the kinks. I just hope they sort out the follow gesture to allow it to start recording video when you wave it away so it follows and records you.

But what do you expect from this video 720p or 480p ? ... If it cant do a full res still.
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Szwedu Posted at 2017-6-23 04:23
But what do you expect from this video 720p or 480p ? ... If it cant do a full res still.

I expect what they are advertising. 1080p video and 12mp photos. Even more so when they are heavily promoting the selfie mode!
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Malakai_UK Posted at 2017-6-23 04:01
Its borderline false advertising but they don't claim that images captured using gestures are at 12mp. I'm stuck on the fence if I should cancel my order or not but this is a new product. I'm sure they will iron out the kinks. I just hope they sort out the follow gesture to allow it to start recording video when you wave it away so it follows and records you.

i 100% agree with this, i would like for it to follow me in sport mode too but i feel like that's a long shot!
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Thor1 Posted at 2017-6-23 05:22
i 100% agree with this, i would like for it to follow me in sport mode too but i feel like that's a long shot!

Yeah, that'll never happen.
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Sort of a side topic, but I think it's relevant.  How's the Mavic in follow me mode?  What level is it's video/ pictures.  This may cause me to cancel my Spark order too.
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For some of us 7 days no questions asked is over. Someone knew there was a res difference at DJI and failed to disclose it? I don't remember it being discussed anywhere until after launch. I don't remember reviews mentioning it.

Something is odd about this. I could have sworn some of the photos I took with gesture mode were at the higher res. I checked and I do have highres photos with me making the sign, taking them in gesture. Firmware hasn't changed since the initial update. So how was I taking photos in highres with gesture if it isn't possible ?   

   
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I did check today recording in active track . When I hit the GO button image resolution got even worse in live view on my phone... On my phone got the 720p video from the buffer I thinkas a result . At home I did check the SD card to find a full HD version... WTF ,or I can't read the user manual or some thing is messed up.
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Szwedu Posted at 2017-6-23 13:51
I did check today recording in active track . When I hit the GO button image resolution got even worse in live view on my phone... On my phone got the 720p video from the buffer I thinkas a result . At home I did check the SD card to find a full HD version... WTF ,or I can't read the user manual or some thing is messed up.

This is correct, the original 1080p footage is captured to the SD card on the spark itself, your phone will capture the 720p stream as it comes from the spark.
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Bluewedge Posted at 2017-6-23 06:05
For some of us 7 days no questions asked is over. Someone knew there was a res difference at DJI and failed to disclose it? I don't remember it being discussed anywhere until after launch. I don't remember reviews mentioning it.

Something is odd about this. I could have sworn some of the photos I took with gesture mode were at the higher res. I checked and I do have highres photos with me making the sign, taking them in gesture. Firmware hasn't changed since the initial update. So how was I taking photos in highres with gesture if it isn't possible ?

"7 days no questions asked"... I'm assuming you mean the refund policy?

Is it possible to return the Spark within 7 days even if I've flown it?
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From what i have tested i can clearly state this :
The Manual is written badly , misleading.
The low res Photos are only that you get instantly thru the App to Phone
The Activetrack videos and photo Selfie from gesture are in FULL res on the SDCard
Only the Shallow focus and Pano are in lower res because they are MADE in the App .

So DJI For your own good, explain better what we get , and when.
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I'm also extremely disappointed. They didn't say ANYTHING about the gesture mode images being so low resolution at any point during the presentation or anywhere on the website. Came to this forum to figure out if I was missing something. DJI please clarify what the answer will be or I'm returning my Spark. The whole reason I wanted the Spark for for Gesture mode, but 1080p stills are so useless.
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MrGlass86 Posted at 2017-6-27 07:29
I'm also extremely disappointed. They didn't say ANYTHING about the gesture mode images being so low resolution at any point during the presentation or anywhere on the website. Came to this forum to figure out if I was missing something. DJI please clarify what the answer will be or I'm returning my Spark. The whole reason I wanted the Spark for for Gesture mode, but 1080p stills are so useless.

READ what i wrote :
Selfies and videos are full resolution ON THE SD CARD
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Szwedu Posted at 2017-6-28 00:00
READ what i wrote :
Selfies and videos are full resolution ON THE SD CARD

Hi Szwedu, Can you run a little test for us? Taking the selfie in gesture mode without connecting the RC and Phone, and see what is the resolution of the selfie in your SD card. Thanks.
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I've been following this thread and others like it.  Not sure where the issue is here.  The 1st thing that I did when I received my 1st Spark (I have 2) was "goof off" with all the gesture crap and took a selfie pic.  I then took the SD card out of the Spark and copied to my PC to view/edit the picture.  The picture was FULL resolution.
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isaacchu

i don't have RC , didn't came (combo) to Poland yet.

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It's because of the poor manual . look at my first post , when i read it,  (and English is for me a foreign language ) i clearly think that the final product will be in that resolution :]
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Szwedu Posted at 2017-6-27 00:43
From what i have tested i can clearly state this :
The Manual is written badly , misleading.
The low res Photos are only that you get instantly thru the App to Phone

I just checked a photo that I shot yesterday. Shot on Spark, used DJI Go to transfer the file to my S8+ and the file is 1440x1080 (2MP)

I just connected the microSD to my laptop and checked the image files - they are still 1440x1080. All images captured using gesture are 2MP, regardless of whether it was transferred on app or phone.

However, for images shot without using gesture mode, the image dimensions are 3968x2976 (12MP)
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Szwedu Posted at 2017-6-28 00:00
READ what i wrote :
Selfies and videos are full resolution ON THE SD CARD

They aren't. I just checked.

Image when transferred via DJI Go 4 from Spark to phone = 2MP
Took out the SD card, inserted into my laptop. Same file = 2MP

Images shot without using gesture mode (i.e. using smartphone and DJI Go 4) = 12MP
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Szwedu Posted at 2017-6-28 00:00
READ what i wrote :
Selfies and videos are full resolution ON THE SD CARD

They aren't. I just checked.

Image when transferred via DJI Go 4 from Spark to phone = 2MP
Took out the SD card, inserted into my laptop. Same file = 2MP

Images shot without using gesture mode (i.e. using smartphone and DJI Go 4) = 12MP
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Szwedu Posted at 2017-6-28 02:53
isaacchu

i don't have RC , didn't came (combo) to Poland yet.

The manual is correct. I just checked it.
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Ken-W Posted at 2017-6-28 03:17
I just checked a photo that I shot yesterday. Shot on Spark, used DJI Go to transfer the file to my S8+ and the file is 1440x1080 (2MP)

I just connected the microSD to my laptop and checked the image files - they are still 1440x1080. All images captured using gesture are 2MP, regardless of whether it was transferred on app or phone.

Or you are doing something wrong OR it's defective :p
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Szwedu Posted at 2017-6-27 00:43
From what i have tested i can clearly state this :
The Manual is written badly , misleading.
The low res Photos are only that you get instantly thru the App to Phone

Thanks for this Szwedu, makes it clear that we do get the full res on the card but the images sent to the app are the lower resolution images. Makes sense because if you are flying without an sd card they will be sent straight to your device.
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As some of you wont a proof here is me and my daughter ,and like you can see there is no phone in my hands :]
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Szwedu Posted at 2017-6-28 03:45
As some of you wont a proof here is me and my daughter ,and like you can see there is no phone in my hands :]

aaaand, this is just freaky now. Is there a setting somewhere that I'm not aware of? I don't even see settings that allow me to change resolution / MP4 vs MOV, etc

And you're saying this is shot from a PalmLaunch, PalmControl, and the capture gesture?
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Ken-W Posted at 2017-6-28 03:50
aaaand, this is just freaky now. Is there a setting somewhere that I'm not aware of? I don't even see settings that allow me to change resolution / MP4 vs MOV, etc

And you're saying this is shot from a PalmLaunch, PalmControl, and the capture gesture?

Yes my daughter did a palm lunch there :p , i realy have no intentions to fake something my friend p
In Movie there is no settings , in photo you have tabs for manual shutter iso wb etc.
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Szwedu Posted at 2017-6-28 03:56
Yes my daughter did a palm lunch there :p , i realy have no intentions to fake something my friend p
In Movie there is no settings , in photo you have tabs for manual shutter is wb etc.

This just blows my mind right now. I have no idea how you're doing it. I just tested it on my other Spark and it's the same thing - 2 MP when I do a PalmLaunch, and gesture to take a photo!
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Szwedu Posted at 2017-6-28 03:56
Yes my daughter did a palm lunch there :p , i realy have no intentions to fake something my friend p
In Movie there is no settings , in photo you have tabs for manual shutter iso wb etc.

Was the pic made BEFORE or AFTER installation of the (yesterday) updated DJI GO4 app?
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i am on Android ,  we didn't get an update...
My spark was updated once , after registration out of the box , that s it.
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I just tested this yesterday evening - same results as before. When I use the gesture to get the Spark to take a photo, the image is 2MP. If I use the shutter button on the phone, it's 12MP
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Interestingly, this sentence "Note that the resolution of photos is 1440×1080 in Gesture mode." was not mentioned in the Spark Manual version 1.0.  It was only subsequently inserted in version 1.2.
I was really disappointed to find out about this when I took a selfie shot using Gesture Control this morning!  I was wondering why the image quaity looks so bad until I check the resolution.  The photo was downloaded from the mico SD card into my iMac.

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You can compare the NEW manual to the old one here
https://draftable.com/compare/IITMSBagYVqM
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This is a terrible limitation. This failure, and 100 m in active tracking are the worst part.
I would like to buy a Spark, it´s perfect for my plans... but it doesn´t work.

will be this solved?
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motopa Posted at 2017-6-30 01:30
This is a terrible limitation. This failure, and 100 m in active tracking are the worst part.
I would like to buy a Spark, it´s perfect for my plans... but it doesn´t work.

about what limitations you are talking about  ?
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limitation 1: no photos in gesture mode. 1440x1080=no photo, icon size. Then, you can´t use the gesture mode (for what? no photo... and no video...). Gesture mode it´s fantastic for selfie... you don´t need open app, take off from palm... all very fast. But doesn´t work.

limitation 2: 100 meteres from home point (where you start) in active track mode... you can´t run bicycle, motorbike, atv .... more than 100 meters from you start point, even spark is 5 meters away from you.
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Why would the photos be diff resolution?? Same camera taking pic.  WTH?
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I use palm take off, fly mode no change, use gesture take photo, and then palm landing, download from the Spark and got 3698x2976 image. Provided that I always connect the RC to the Spark and mobile before take off.




https://goo.gl/photos/C3V1tUFD3aLvHA9K6


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motopa Posted at 2017-6-30 04:55
limitation 1: no photos in gesture mode. 1440x1080=no photo, icon size. Then, you can´t use the gesture mode (for what? no photo... and no video...). Gesture mode it´s fantastic for selfie... you don´t need open app, take off from palm... all very fast. But doesn´t work.

limitation 2: 100 meteres from home point (where you start) in active track mode... you can´t run bicycle, motorbike, atv .... more than 100 meters from you start point, even spark is 5 meters away from you.

maybe if you changed the home point to the controller? maybe that would fix your problem
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