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Aerial 360 of West Mathers and Bush, St Cyrus, Scotland
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Interactive Aerial 360 of West Mathers and Bush, St Cyrus, Scotland [click on image to see interactive version]


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The aerial 360 really gives us a brand new view to see the world broader. Great job, friend, thanks for sharing.
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I like it!
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DJI Thor Posted at 2017-10-24 04:01
The aerial 360 really gives us a brand new view to see the world broader. Great job, friend, thanks for sharing.

Thank you Thor! I agree - aerial 360s give a more immersive view of the surroundings - puts everything into context!
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Thank you Alabama - glad you liked it!
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Very nice, Graeme. I sent this to my realtor wife and I'm sure she'll have me creating some of these for the larger land listings.
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Fontinalis Posted at 2017-10-24 08:02
Very nice, Graeme. I sent this to my realtor wife and I'm sure she'll have me creating some of these for the larger land listings.

Thank you It's certainly a view that establishes the setting!
There's a local hospital that closed in recent years being redeveloped (click image below to see interactive 360 Google Maps view) and I asked the developer permission to photograph it before work starts. Would be interesting to compare it after development is complete...



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G Davidson Posted at 2017-10-24 08:46
Thank you  It's certainly a view that establishes the setting!
There's a local hospital that closed in recent years being redeveloped (click image below to see interactive 360 Google Maps view) and I asked the developer permission to photograph it before work starts. Would be interesting to compare it after development is complete...

I take it this was stitched together?  I know little of how this stuff works.  
It is very cool, I like it!
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Genghis9 Posted at 2017-10-24 08:52
I take it this was stitched together?  I know little of how this stuff works.  
It is very cool, I like it!

It was indeed stitched from Phantom 4 images but a little more involved... I also shoot a panorama of the sky form the ground with a DSLR camera and merge that in so that the sky is complete  (since the Phantom camera cant look upwards).

Glad you liked it
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G Davidson Posted at 2017-10-24 09:06
It was indeed stitched from Phantom 4 images but a little more involved... I also shoot a panorama of the sky form the ground with a DSLR camera and merge that in so that the sky is complete  (since the Phantom camera cant look upwards).

Glad you liked it

Very nice and very thorough
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Very cool, which drone are you using? I saw that the Mavic or the Spark can done this 360 auto!
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Wow, this is amazing.
Do you have some sort of 'how to do this' online?
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G Davidson Posted at 2017-10-24 08:46
Thank you  It's certainly a view that establishes the setting!
There's a local hospital that closed in recent years being redeveloped (click image below to see interactive 360 Google Maps view) and I asked the developer permission to photograph it before work starts. Would be interesting to compare it after development is complete...

His is stunning. How beautiful to see the world in 360 from above!
Love to see how you make these!
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allyssongemelli Posted at 2017-10-24 10:02
Very cool, which drone are you using? I saw that the Mavic or the Spark can done this 360 auto!

Cheers! I'm using a the original Phantom 4 (12Mpix). Would like to have tried the same with a Phantom 4 Pro with its 20MPix camera. As the Mavic and Spark cannot capture the sky above them, their panoramas will miss out some of the sky detail.
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Genghis9 Posted at 2017-10-24 09:44
Very nice and very thorough

Thank you  - nice of you to say!
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Montfrooij Posted at 2017-10-24 10:18
Wow, this is amazing.
Do you have some sort of 'how to do this' online?

I don't have a tutorial myself but I can point you to a similar method on Youtube. I'm not using Dronepan either as I aim and manually expose each shot. The sky half of the panorama I create on the ground with a DSLR and a fisheye lens - 6 photos are taken to make the sky half of the panorama. It's a lot of work but I've done so many of them I don't need to think too hard



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Montfrooij Posted at 2017-10-24 10:19
His is stunning. How beautiful to see the world in 360 from above!
Love to see how you make these!

I'm really pleased that you like them! If you'd like to see some more that I've posted in the past, I've got a collection  at Roundme
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I have a P4A, maybe is the same camera of the P4 Pro, like 20 MB. Nice work, congrats!
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G Davidson Posted at 2017-10-24 10:34
I'm really pleased that you like them! If you'd like to see some more that I've posted in the past, I've got a collection  at Roundme

That is nice. Thanks for the link!
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G Davidson Posted at 2017-10-24 10:31
I don't have a tutorial myself but I can point you to a similar method on Youtube. I'm not using Dronepan either as I aim and manually expose each shot. The sky half of the panorama I create on the ground with a DSLR and a fisheye lens - 6 photos are taken to make the sky half of the panorama. It's a lot of work but I've done so many of them I don't need to think too hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xP05iBrVzc

Thanks. Lot's of work, but I'm used to it.
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allyssongemelli Posted at 2017-10-24 10:34
I have a P4A, maybe is the same camera of the P4 Pro, like 20 MB. Nice work, congrats!

You're right - my mistake, the sensor is 20 Mpix (not the 24Mpx I mentioned originally). I was thinking about (or perhaps drooling over!) the Zenmuse X7.

I was surprised how well the 12Mpix images came out but they did need careful sharpening. Still, I'd love to see what I could do with the P4A/P4P! The extra dynamic range would certainly be a bonus too
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Montfrooij Posted at 2017-10-24 10:38
That is nice. Thanks for the link!

You're very welcome - it might be worth giving it a go!
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Yeah, what counts is the sensor and the lens, the resolution is better only for great banners and images. The 20 MP I think that is a 1'' sensor.
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I like it too. Fascinating.
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allyssongemelli Posted at 2017-10-24 11:01
Yeah, what counts is the sensor and the lens, the resolution is better only for great banners and images. The 20 MP I think that is a 1'' sensor.

It is indeed a 1" format sensor in the P4A/P4P. Will be interesting to see what DJI releases next in the Phantom range.  
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Its true, its also already a nice camera. We have to wait the next chapters hehe
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allyssongemelli Posted at 2017-10-24 12:49
Its true, its also already a nice camera. We have to wait the next chapters hehe

Indeed - with the P4 Pro being out a while, I'd be scared to buy one in the near future only to see it  superseded in a month's time (that's what happened why I bought my P3!)
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Nice shot!
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G Davidson Posted at 2017-10-24 10:40
You're very welcome - it might be worth giving it a go!

100% true. I have been playing around with a Samsung gear 360, but that was not delivering the quality I wanted.
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Montfrooij Posted at 2017-10-24 22:52
100% true. I have been playing around with a Samsung gear 360, but that was not delivering the quality I wanted.

I’ve been keeping an eye on various all in one 360 cameras but the resolution is much less than I’m accustomed to. The gear 360 (2017) has a final still output resolution of 15Mpix whereas stitching 12Mpix Phantom 4 images gives me around 136Mpix images - quite a difference!
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G Davidson Posted at 2017-10-24 23:43
I’ve been keeping an eye on various all in one 360 cameras but the resolution is much less than I’m accustomed to. The gear 360 (2017) has a final still output resolution of 15Mpix whereas the stitching 12Mpix Phantom 4 images is giving me around 136Mpix images - quite a difference!

Exactly.
And from the sky you have far less parallax issues than I'm having when shooting from the ground.
That worked nice with the Gear 360, but without a good pano head (nodal point etc) I can't stitch my ground 360 shots very well.
Also the moving objects issue is far more common when you shoot from the ground, since objects are bigger....
Note to myself : get a P4A asap
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G Davidson Posted at 2017-10-24 07:26
Thank you Thor! I agree - aerial 360s give a more immersive view of the surroundings - puts everything into context!

Yeah, and I am looking forward to your more works.
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Thank you Bracco!
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Montfrooij Posted at 2017-10-25 00:16
Exactly.
And from the sky you have far less parallax issues than I'm having when shooting from the ground.
That worked nice with the Gear 360, but without a good pano head (nodal point etc) I can't stitch my ground 360 shots very well.

I haven't had many parallax issues at around 100m. Wind blowing trees or crops sometimes confuses the stitcher. The stitching nightmares usually arrive when I'm doing coastal shots and all there is to stitch on in the sea parts of the image are fragments of land or slow moving cloud. There's one aspect of the P4A/P4P that concerns me - the slightly narrower field of view compared to the original P4 might prevent me from keeping key features in frame for overlapping shots near the sea... The bonus is more detail for everwhere else

As for ground based 360s, a really good 360 tripod head makes a world of difference!
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G Davidson Posted at 2017-10-25 05:35
I haven't had many parallax issues at around 100m. Wind blowing trees or crops sometimes confuses the stitcher. The stitching nightmares usually arrive when I'm doing coastal shots and all there is to stitch on in the sea parts of the image are fragments of land or slow moving cloud. There's one aspect of the P4A/P4P that concerns me - the slightly narrower field of view compared to the original P4 might prevent me from keeping key features in frame for overlapping shots near the sea... The bonus is more detail for everwhere else

As for ground based 360s, a really good 360 tripod head makes a world of difference!

Yeah, I should buy one (360 head), but that is way to expensive for my hobby usage.
And still gives the issue of moving subjects that are close to you.

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Montfrooij Posted at 2017-10-25 06:26
Yeah, I should buy one (360 head), but that is way to expensive for my hobby usage.
And still gives the issue of moving subjects that are close to you.

Yes, 360 heads are a bit expensive. Like tripods, one usually buys a few cheap ones first and, due to their shortcomings,  end up buying a decent one in the end!

As you say, moving subjects can be a problem. I've even had issues with shadows moving between shots as the sun moves!
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G Davidson Posted at 2017-10-26 05:18
Yes, 360 heads are a bit expensive. Like tripods, one usually buys a few cheap ones first and, due to their shortcomings,  end up buying a decent one in the end!

As you say, moving subjects can be a problem. I've even had issues with shadows moving between shots as the sun moves!

True. If I plan on using it enough I definitely buy decent gear.
But in this case I have limited plans (lot's of things to do and only 24 hours in a day)
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