Clarifying Drone registration with the FAA
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Do us drone users have to register with the FAA?
I have seen many threads of individuals stating that you must register with the FAA if you're flying a drone, others say you don't have to. For me, it was confusing trying to find an answer.  So for the sake of helping others like myself who had a question about this issue, I looked up the requirements directly on the FAA's website and found the following info: (https://www.faa.gov/uas/getting_started/fly_for_fun/)
Drone owners do NOT have to register their UAS with the FAA if you fly under the "Special Rule for Model Aircraft (P.L. 112-95, Section 336)"

That "Special Rule" is described as follows, and I quote:

Note: Model aircraft operators that comply with all of these operational requirements during flight do not have to register their UAS with the FAA.
Model aircraft operators must follow these rules to fly under this Rule:
  • the aircraft is flown strictly for hobby or recreational use
  • the aircraft is operated in accordance with a community-based set of safety guidelines and within the programming of a nationwide community-based organization
  • the aircraft is limited to not more than 55 pounds unless otherwise certified through a design, construction, inspection, flight test, and operational safety program administered by a community-based organization
  • the aircraft is operated in a manner that does not interfere with and gives way to any manned aircraft
  • when flown within 5 miles of an airport, the operator of the aircraft provides the airport operator and the airport air traffic control tower (when an air traffic facility is located at the airport) with prior notice of the operation (model aircraft operators flying from a permanent location within 5 miles of an airport should establish a mutually-agreed upon operating procedure with the airport operator and the airport air traffic control tower [when an air traffic facility is located at the airport])
A model aircraft is defined as an unmanned aircraft that:
  • capable of sustained flight in the atmosphere
  • flown within visual line of sight of the person operating the aircraft
  • flown for hobby or recreational purposes.




I hope this helps others out who are looking for a clear answer on this topic.  For those who still wish to register their aircraft anyway with the FAA, that's fine, and you can do so under the "modeler" category.  But if you are simply a hobbyist looking to fly for recreational purposes, you are not required to register.


Happy flying, my friends! Stay safe.
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Jyunte
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Yes... This is correct, as of right now. However, Congress overturned the earlier court decision which said the FAA has no authority to require registration for hobbyists. What this means, is that in 2018, the FAA will once again require registration for all R/C aircraft that fly in the national airspace and weighting between 0.55lbs and 55lbs.

See the AMA Bog for further details.
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Jyunte Posted at 2017-11-28 23:14
Yes... This is correct, as of right now. However, Congress overturned the earlier court decision which said the FAA has no authority to require registration for hobbyists. What this means, is that in 2018, the FAA will once again require registration for all R/C aircraft that fly in the national airspace and weighting between 0.55lbs and 55lbs.

See the AMA Bog for further details.

Thank you for that info - I was not aware of that.
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I think I have less clarity now...

If flying as model aircraft, drone OPERATORS need to be registered, with the certificate in their possession.   (but not the drones themselves?)

..confusion...
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Koia Koia
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I also all entirely unclear as I thought you must register. Regardless for five dollars worth it to me to ensure I'm operating within the law.  
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Booster4075 Posted at 2017-12-13 13:32
I think I have less clarity now...

If flying as model aircraft, drone OPERATORS need to be registered, with the certificate in their possession.   (but not the drones themselves?)

Yes, you must register to fly in the United States. Earlier this year it was mandatory for recreational fliers, then for a while it wasn't, and now it is again and probably always will be from now on. And yes, despite the misleading "drone registration" terminology that appears even on the FAA's web site, it's the owner that's registered and not the drone, but the owner's FA number must be applied to each drone.
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Anyone know if you have to fulfill BOTH the 336 and 107 labeling/ID requirement on a drone you might fly under one or the other situations?  Let's see, that would mean your part 107 drone registration plus your part 336 pilot registration, plus the AMA wants their number on the drone for 336 operation. Of course, you would probably want your name/phone on it if you wanted to get it back.  That's a lot of labeling.
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BRAD S
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I registered my spark with the FAA. Will that cover my Mavic, or is a separate registration required ?
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BRAD S Posted at 2017-12-13 14:54
I registered my spark with the FAA. Will that cover my Mavic, or is a separate registration required ?

One number covers all
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BRAD S Posted at 2017-12-13 14:54
I registered my spark with the FAA. Will that cover my Mavic, or is a separate registration required ?

You didn't register your Spark... You registered yourself! So, the pilots registration number goes on all your aircraft.
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If I'm "registering myself," why do they want make, model, and serial of my drone?  Seems to me like I'm registering my DRONE.
Is it surprising that the Govt makes such a simple thing so confusing?  I now have no idea whether to do 107 or 336, whether I'm registering myself or drone, what I need to do once I register, and what exactly needs to go on the drone itself.
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https://faadronezone.faa.gov/#/home
This is the FAA site.  336 is the "Special Rule" registration, and only requires "pilot" information registration, no drone info.  $5 for 3 years.   It turns out I was on another website that looked like an FAA official registration site... so be careful out there.  No option to edit my post, so I had to add to the chain.

From the website:
    The registration fee is $5.00.

Your Unique Number
    When you register, you will receive a unique registration number that applies to any and all unmanned aircraft you own for 3 years. After 3 years, you must re-register.
    You MUST mark any and all aircraft with your number before you operate them.

Special Rule for Model Aircraft
To fly under the Special Rule for Model Aircraft, you must:
    Follow community-based aero-modeling club safety rules
    Fly for hobby or recreation only
    Keep your aircraft within your sight
    Notify the airport and air traffic control tower prior to flying within 5 miles of an airport
    Never fly near other aircraft


Hope some of this clarification helps.
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So just to clarify, DJI Spark weight of 300 grams pilots do NOT need to register with the FAA?
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Booster4075 Posted at 2017-12-13 13:32
I think I have less clarity now...

If flying as model aircraft, drone OPERATORS need to be registered, with the certificate in their possession.   (but not the drones themselves?)

I don't see why the FAA is going back and forth with registering as opposed to not registering?
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davidmartingraf Posted at 2018-2-26 07:58
I don't see why the FAA is going back and forth with registering as opposed to not registering?

Have you seen the youtube videos title "range test" or "distance test" where people are flying them straight out at 30mph until the drone hits the return home option?  Most likely this is why.  There's a video of a guy who flew it off a mountain in Hawaii so it stayed at the altitude he launched from and flew 3 miles out, through clouds, and at a very high altitude once 'off the mountain.'

What's frustrating to me is the lack of information from the FAA and the amount of misinformation on the internet through posts and videos.   I wish the drone manufacturers would have a sticky bar at the top of their websites with updated information in flashing red.  This would help.
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davidmartingraf Posted at 2018-2-26 07:57
So just to clarify, DJI Spark weight of 300 grams pilots do NOT need to register with the FAA?

Wrong. You need to register with the FAA if you intend to fly your Spark in the US.
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MiniPalourde Posted at 2018-2-26 09:20
Wrong. You need to register with the FAA if you intend to fly your Spark in the US.

That's what I thought.
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Mod should remove this thread to reduce further confusion.
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Outie Posted at 2018-2-26 10:32
Mod should remove this thread to reduce further confusion.

And create a new sticky for everyone to see.  I found this thread on google very easily though when searching drone register mavic.  So what would be ideal is if the OP could edit, then have a mod remove all this garbage.
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