I have had a post deleted which was in no way inflammatory, was not rude, was significantly less than a couple of other posts on the same thread. A short post in jest - as with others on the thread.

For another - I have received penalty point and warning of possible suspension for 30 days..... for bad language ? Interesting !

I find this amazing - considering the insults and remarks I put up with at times, that moderators ignore - even after I report them. And that no bad language has been used by me.

Usual forums have system where moderators PM the 'offender' and there is possibility to reply. But not here - its accused, convicted and sealed.

If Moderators deem it necessary for such a one-way system - then at least ensure the level playing field and punish all in same way.

Nigel

I have to say the short time i have been a member on this forum
i have never read or seen a bad word said by this member
and have not seen any rude or vulgar language  from this person
i have always found him very helpful and very knowledgeable

  Was it my question about flying on New Years Eve? Sorry to bait everyone with that. It was just an observation that I would never be able to fly at that time. Feel free to pm me anytime. I have thick skin and a great sense of humor.

What thread was it?

Flying on New Years

Do you feel the love? Haha

You can always PM the moderators of your choice.
They will surely respond in kind. Just politely share your thoughts. ;-)



RedHotPoker

Mark The Droner Posted at 2017-12-4 17:28
What thread was it?

Hi .. its actually more than just the two threads.

Yes one is New Years Eve where I just made a silly short comment in fun - as others did. It was deleted without any notice or mention.

The other is just blatant rude insulting behaviour by one of the regulars - who has a habit of it. In fact he's just one of a particular number and I know has upset others.
Moderators allow him and 'his pals' to effectively gang up and insult others. Reporting seems to be ignored.

I'm tired of it and venting off to be honest. There are other forums that have a better grasp of members wish to input ... accept varying views and information.
I ask myself at times why I bother with this forum - can't really answer that one !! Originally I joined because it was dedicated to DJI items. I did not expect the style it has though.

The bottom line is that IMHO DJI are losing out, with the sanitising of threads, they fail to gain from users info and experiences. Not only that - but it seems they fail to update their moderators with latest technical info and policies. They allow some very strange posts that so often have no relevance at all - but sanction others.

Rant over ...

I wish all very best of flights and try not to crash !!

Nigel

To be honest, I've seen more censorship on the other site.  I don't really have any complaints here re censorship.  However, I do have to agree, it seems the report function is broken or ignored or something.  

I like RHP's suggestion - maybe a direct PM is best.  

I have come to conclusion that if I want information to fix something or explanation for my P3 - I can get it elsewhere without hassle. Here it all depends if it 'fits' DJI idea of the RC world.

It is not uncommon for an independent forum / site to become a real information provider - basically because it has freedom to explore the subject without conflicting with site owners. Trouble is so far DJI seem to have gone further than just sanitising threads - but ignoring reported posts etc.

I can take rough with smooth - but sometimes it just gets to a limit which is ridiculous. I have been 'chastised' a couple of times here - but I see others doing far worse and get away with it. Even to the point of 'pals' jumping in and adding to the fire. Moderators should, as with most other forums, stamp on that hard ... but all to often it happens here.

My wish is that this thread may provoke some thought on the subject by DJI - not just ignore.

Nigel

They can't see everything - and it is possible the Report function simply doesn't work.  

I moderate and run a number of forums and we have nothing like the trouble I see here and some other sites.

I also invite others on the forums to offer to moderate, also to report if anything untoward.

With a couple of the forums - we actually formed a 'Sin Bin' section !!  If a post was 'iffy' we could move it there and have a think about it !! We could even invite author to amend post ....

Maybe its time for me to move on from here and let it go ... I don't really need the hassle or insults. I have enough in my job - what with military and civilian demands etc. in areas of the world most people wouldn't want to be !! (Many areas I work in - if you tried to fly a DJI - you would probably end up with a bullet !)

Nigel

I use to moderate, it's a fruitless venture and you're darned if you do or darned if you don't.  With that being said, I actually don't even feel like the moderators in these forums are human but perhaps bots.  It could have something to do with language barriers though.  I don't know if everything is understood or taken in the same context by the various cultures on these boards.  Especially since everyone is forced to use English.  I do really like the sin bin idea.  

If you have legitimate alternative ways the forum may be improved, please submit your suggestions to the appropriate Service forum section

https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... mp;orderby=dateline


RedHotPoker

RHP ... you and I have have had our differences.

I appreciate your response here.

The section you refer to has been observed to be fruitless and I even suggest that DJI initiated to re-route 'views'. I have used it in the past and had ZERO results.

Nigel

I treat everyone here as I treat my drone. (Lest I get "flown" into)

Hi, sir. I think the missing point might be related to  the algorithm of the point is adjusted and many users experience the same situation of losing points. Thanks for your attention.

DJI Elektra Posted at 2017-12-10 01:27
Hi, sir. I think the missing point might be related to  the algorithm of the point is adjusted and many users experience the same situation of losing points. Thanks for your attention.

Sorry - didn't understand a word of that ....

Nigel

You can reply to and about moderators.

https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... &fromuid=260008

solentlife Posted at 2017-12-4 18:02
Hi .. its actually more than just the two threads.

Yes one is New Years Eve where I just made a silly short comment in fun - as others did. It was deleted without any notice or mention.

There are many of these characters on many different forums covering an array of different subjects.
They tend to be the ones who have been on the longest and some sort of weird territorial/superiority thing going on. In every day life you find they are the type of people that wouldn’t say boo to a goose. If you ever meet them face to face you will find most of them can barely get their words out. They can only speak via a keyboard and display their total lack of social skills when they do. Sad but true unfortunately.

fans417abfbd Posted at 2017-12-10 05:17
There are many of these characters on many different forums covering an array of different subjects.
They tend to be the ones who have been on the longest and some sort of weird territorial/superiority thing going on. In every day life you find they are the type of people that wouldn’t say boo to a goose. If you ever meet them face to face you will find most of them can barely get their words out. They can only speak via a keyboard and display their total lack of social skills when they do. Sad but true unfortunately.

It’s exactly this kind of generalization that can cause people to react , I don’t think there is any call for it and does not add a lot to anything.

solentlife Posted at 2017-12-10 04:01
Sorry - didn't understand a word of that ....

Nigel

I think DJI Elektra was trying to refer to happenings over the past few days where people have seen their points value reduced. It would seem that this was caused by system removing posts in an erroneous manner. Perhaps some new super Mod 'Bot' gone mad :-)

She probably had several windows open and responded to the wrong one

hallmark007 Posted at 2017-12-10 06:27
It’s exactly this kind of generalization that can cause people to react , I don’t think there is any call for it and does not add a lot to anything.

But it is a fact ... go on to RC Groups .... within a few days - you will notice exactly that.

Trouble is with Forums ... its a Catch 22.

All forums want more people to post and join. But as the numbers go up - the 'undesirable element appears' ... not only the rude inconsiderate one - but the longstanding one who thinks they have all the answers and post literally anything to contradict the newcomer. Bit like the old Wolf - making its mark.

Forums are supposed to be arena's of discussion and debate. To pass on observations and experiences, to ask questions and receive replies. Its accepted that they will vary and its up to authors to support or not their posts. But what usually happens is a 'playground fight' and the value is lost in an argument that turns others away .. ruins the thread ...

I know I am controversial at times - but that's life. If someone wants to debate properly and without the insults as seen with some here ... then I am all game for it. We all want to learn. But insult me - then they'll get as good as they give.

Nigel

DJI Elektra Posted at 2017-12-10 01:27
Hi, sir. I think the missing point might be related to  the algorithm of the point is adjusted and many users experience the same situation of losing points. Thanks for your attention.

Yes, there has been a blip and some of us have seen posts deleted and points lost, but there is also a time to take a deep breath and count to ten, the blip will be fixed and everything fine again, thats the trouble with algorithms they are Not Human they are computer code, so when they go wrong it takes time to fix.
We are all here to either ask for info, give advice, show our stuff off, what ever, Take a breather - relax -
it will work itself out, it's machine stuff, programming code.
Just Fly and be happy thats what I do, brilliant hobby and fantastic Drones,
bye
davawt

solentlife Posted at 2017-12-10 08:37
But it is a fact ... go on to RC Groups .... within a few days - you will notice exactly that.

Trouble is with Forums ... its a Catch 22.

I find this forum as good as any other, we must remember we all come from very different cultures we don’t say and do things universally the same, different temperaments etc, and this is a good thing, I also don’t have a problem with mods jumping in when things get a little heated, I’ve been cautioned myself not always correct, but most of the time deserved, I can take it on the chin.

Some people except being told to go read the Manual others are insulted by it, so you can see how something so simple can get out of proportion. Live and let live and hopefully in the new year we will all be a little more patient, and will have a little more knowledge to share.
Good luck.

solentlife Posted at 2017-12-5 07:22
I moderate and run a number of forums and we have nothing like the trouble I see here and some other sites.

I also invite others on the forums to offer to moderate, also to report if anything untoward.

What other forums? Maybe a link, please?

solentlife Posted at 2017-12-10 04:01
Sorry - didn't understand a word of that ....

Nigel

You can get more info in the following thread which explain the calculation of points: https://forum.dji.com/thread-122947-1-1.html.

DJI Elektra Posted at 2017-12-12 04:00
You can get more info in the following thread which explain the calculation of points: https://forum.dji.com/thread-122947-1-1.html. .

File not found.

Nebuchadnezzar Posted at 2017-12-12 04:02
File not found.

https://forum.dji.com/thread-122947-1-1.html

Mark The Droner Posted at 2017-12-12 04:24
https://forum.dji.com/thread-123505-1-1.html

yes now !!

Nebuchadnezzar Posted at 2017-12-12 04:24
yes now !!

Glad you can enter the website. If you have any question, please feel free to ask for help.

Just so you guys know, I am responsible for 90% of deleted posts. It's a hard job and I depend a lot on the "report" function. I literally go through every single report which could be hundreds a week, and act in a way that I feel is unbiased. There is a very fine line between heated debate and inflammatory behavior and I try my best to act consistently. It is the hardest part of my job, to allow users to feel as free as possible without allowing the forum to devolve into a place of trolls and toxic behavior.

If you ever have an issue, I almost always respond with my reasoning. Just send me a PM or an email at la.support@dji.com.

DJI Joe Posted at 2017-12-13 10:01
Just so you guys know, I am responsible for 90% of deleted posts. It's a hard job and I depend a lot on the "report" function. I literally go through every single report which could be hundreds a week, and act in a way that I feel is unbiased. There is a very fine line between heated debate and inflammatory behavior and I try my best to act consistently. It is the hardest part of my job, to allow users to feel as free as possible without allowing the forum to devolve into a place of trolls and toxic behavior.

If you ever have an issue, I almost always respond with my reasoning. Just send me a PM or an email at la.support@dji.com.

Thanks for your work ..not easy we know;)