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DirkGerrit
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2018-3-4
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TroutboyNZ
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I can't really see a need for it, would rather have my wits about me and fly manually, only really seems to work with solid objects, it's pretty sketchy in real-world useage around trees etc.
2018-3-4
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Shay13
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Doesn't work for me, I've enabled all APAS options, and it just stops when at most objects. useless tbh.
2018-3-4
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TroutboyNZ Posted at 2018-3-4 12:15
I can't really see a need for it, would rather have my wits about me and fly manually, only really seems to work with solid objects, it's pretty sketchy in real-world useage around trees etc.

Ditto, just marketing bling! On the other hand Quickshots makes up for it
2018-3-4
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Face-AcheNZ
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2 - never used it, but only because i have had my Mavic Air for 3 days. I think i prefer being in full control myself.
2018-3-4
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Punchbuggy
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I turn it on for all flights. Put it this way - why not? Hey, if it saves you from backing into something even just once...
2018-3-4
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usarfireman
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tested it out on some undergrowth just to see if it worked and worked really well may use it as some point but mainly film in open areas
2018-3-5
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Malakai_UK
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I used it last weekend in some woods and personally, I think it should be enabled by default. It dodged everything in its path.
2018-3-5
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Garia666
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well sadly there is no option to enable it when in cinema mode..   
2018-3-5
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DroneSupremacy
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Don't find it super useful to be honest. I prefer all-manual control
2018-3-5
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Hestia
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I use it when not in open areas and I think it's a cool feature for newbies like me
2018-3-5
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DJT_MVSP
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Using APAS when flying backwards
2018-3-5
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Matthewstorm
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DJT_MVSP Posted at 2018-3-5 04:09
Using APAS when flying backwards

I've used it but when I intentionally fly close to an object for a shot it beeps like a crazy person.
2018-3-5
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davidmartingraf
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I think APAS is a really good feature for people who want to get real up close to the subject they are filming, certainly would benefit the Spark and Mavic Pro, as well!
2018-3-5
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davidmartingraf
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Is APAS a software or hardware enhancement? I obviously realize the rear capability for the Air is unique, but forgoing rear APAS couldn't all DJI drones eventually inherit APAS of the Air through firmware?
2018-3-5
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Matthewstorm Posted at 2018-3-5 11:32
I've used it but when I intentionally fly close to an object for a shot it beeps like a crazy person.

Better to have the drone beep like crazy than have it crash like a fool.
2018-3-5
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davidmartingraf
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DJT_MVSP Posted at 2018-3-5 04:09
Using APAS when flying backwards

I think the speed reduction only compensates tight areas regardless of which direction you're flying.
2018-3-5
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hallmark007
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I tested apas today, I have to say I’m very impressed it has great ability to move around and over obstacles it’s definitely something I will use in tight spaces.
2018-3-5
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hallmark007 Posted at 2018-3-5 13:33
I tested apas today, I have to say I’m very impressed it has great ability to move around and over obstacles it’s definitely something I will use in tight spaces.

I haven't had a flight situation yet where it would have been needed, thus not yet tested myself. But great to read that it is working well.
2018-3-5
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Punchbuggy
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Just adding to all the above, it's operation is subtle but real, so I'm using it by default (whenever I remember to turn it on, grrr). When I first took my Air for a test flight in my backyard, I was playing with flight modes and noticed at one stage when I flew it backwards that it was suddenly gaining height. "Cr@p, there something wrong", I thought. Then I realised that it was detecting the garage behind it and was starting to adjust it's flight path to clear the roof. Yup, very impressive.

Hey, I'm an experienced drone pilot. But this feature works, and only needs to save you once to justify pushing the button. I laugh whenever I read "I prefer to fly it manually". Seriously, Balls of Steel... :-)
2018-3-5
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ggeorgis
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In a lot of situations APAS just stops the drone....on the other hand this is what APAS should behave like....



2018-3-6
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Bill B
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TroutboyNZ Posted at 2018-3-4 12:15
I can't really see a need for it, would rather have my wits about me and fly manually, only really seems to work with solid objects, it's pretty sketchy in real-world useage around trees etc.

You can only use APAS when you are flying "manually" It is turned off when entering intelligent flight modes such as active track.
2018-3-6
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LoSBoL
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Bill B Posted at 2018-3-6 03:12
You can only use APAS when you are flying "manually" It is turned off when entering intelligent flight modes such as active track.

Are you sure? I've seen a couple of video's where it worked during active track...


And here's me with a little misjudged boomerang quickshot, you can already see me looking at that pole, and right at about 0:06 you see a swift shift of the focus point.


2018-3-6
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Bill B
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LoSBoL Posted at 2018-3-6 12:22
Are you sure? I've seen a couple of video's where it worked during active track...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuCCWHC5ThA

Absolutely sure, It is stated in the manual, and DJI thor posted this in a previous thread.
2018-3-6
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Bluehook
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What's the difference between APAS  and vision systems and obstacle avoidance?  

Being very new, I've only flown in Sport mode a few times because as I understand it, these assisters turn off.


Yep, I'm a scardy cat.
2018-3-6
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DH_Pilot
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After seeing APAS tests on youtube I will probably avoid using it till issues will be resolved.
2018-3-7
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LoSBoL
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Bill B Posted at 2018-3-6 17:07
Absolutely sure, It is stated in the manual, and DJI thor posted this in a previous thread.
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I guess you didn't look at the video I added

There are some inconsistencies in the manual...
active track.jpg tapfly.jpg

And if you look into the DJI APP it confirms the above two screenshots from the manual.
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2018-3-7
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Malakai_UK
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The horizontal obstacle avoidance has been around for some time for tapfly and ActiveTrack. I guess its behaves kind of like APAS. It will fly around objects it senses in its path while tracking its target.
I'm guessing that DJI have just enabled this for normal flights and are marketing it as APAS when really its just the horizontal obstacle avoidance system!!
2018-3-7
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Bill B
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LoSBoL Posted at 2018-3-7 01:23
I guess you didn't look at the video I added

There are some inconsistencies in the manual...

Yeah I do see that. Thanks for posting it. Thor is correct though if you enable APAS and enter a  condition like active track, or gestures the quad will just stop at obstacles rather than flying around them. When you cancel the active track and come back to manually controlling the quad it will switch back to APAS.  At least that is how my MA is behaving at this time. Perhaps it is my lighting conditions too. We have a lot of snow on the ground and with the sun out it is very bright and I do have trouble with it locking on.
2018-3-7
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LoSBoL
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Bill B Posted at 2018-3-7 03:23
Yeah I do see that. Thanks for posting it. Thor is correct though if you enable APAS and enter a  condition like active track, or gestures the quad will just stop at obstacles rather than flying around them. When you cancel the active track and come back to manually controlling the quad it will switch back to APAS.  At least that is how my MA is behaving at this time. Perhaps it is my lighting conditions too. We have a lot of snow on the ground and with the sun out it is very bright and I do have trouble with it locking on.

Those lighting conditions could have that effect I guess, also good to check the DJI App settings if you turned on Obstacle Avoidance like in the screenshot, or it will definately just stop and won't even try to fly around the object.
2018-3-7
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Bill B
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LoSBoL Posted at 2018-3-7 03:45
Those lighting conditions could have that effect I guess, also good to check the DJI App settings if you turned on Obstacle Avoidance like in the screenshot, or it will definately just stop and won't even try to fly around the object.

Good point,
I will have a look at those settings next time out and see how it reacts. Appreciate it.
2018-3-7
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FatherXmas
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I never use it. I think it would give you a false sense of security - waiting for the 'My Drone Crashed Because of APAS - threads.
2018-3-7
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Bill B
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FatherXmas Posted at 2018-3-7 08:57
I never use it. I think it would give you a false sense of security - waiting for the 'My Drone Crashed Because of APAS - threads.

FatherXmas, I do agree with you there. We do rely on this "ease of flying technology" a great deal. I am an old man, and cut my teeth with a nitro powered PT 40, then on to a Raptor 30 v2 helicopter. I'll tell you what, that is flying my friend. Just to hover that Raptor took a summer to learn. Now we complain about obstacle avoidance. Makes me laugh. I see so many threads on fly aways and I think, It probably lost GPS connection and went to attitude mode. But the pilot can't even fly it unless it is connected to GPS. I believe we all would benefit from learning to fly planks and gyro helicopters before using these fully autonomous quads. DJI has opened the doors to a lot of non pilots.
2018-3-7
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sky6105
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Its a nice feature to have just knowing it there but as of now don't need it.
2018-3-8
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Wyke
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Bill B Posted at 2018-3-7 17:03
FatherXmas, I do agree with you there. We do rely on this "ease of flying technology" a great deal. I am an old man, and cut my teeth with a nitro powered PT 40, then on to a Raptor 30 v2 helicopter. I'll tell you what, that is flying my friend. Just to hover that Raptor took a summer to learn. Now we complain about obstacle avoidance. Makes me laugh. I see so many threads on fly aways and I think, It probably lost GPS connection and went to attitude mode. But the pilot can't even fly it unless it is connected to GPS. I believe we all would benefit from learning to fly planks and gyro helicopters before using these fully autonomous quads. DJI has opened the doors to a lot of non pilots.

I have no idea how many rotor blades I got through learning to hover my Align T-Rex. I seem to recall being told learning to fly one was like trying to balance a pint on a marble on a sheet of glass, or something similar, as I’ve long forgotten the exact metaphor. But that was flying. Auto take off and landing, RTH and stable hover with gps lock? Luxury!
2018-3-8
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DirkGerrit
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Thank you for all the replies, I didn't use it till now so I was curious who did use it...
2018-3-11
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