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DJI pulling an Apple trick?- P3P
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acenothing
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It appears every new release of the of the DJIGO app is causing more and more phones and tablets too not work correctly.  I have been struggling with FPV on my P3P for months and on my last outing, I not only lost FPV 200 feet await the app crashed and the screen went blank.  It went into RTH and all is well but WTF!
I have not made any mods and I am using the exact same tablet etc as the day I bought it 3 years ago (only swapped out cord).  I took it to the shop where  I purchased it and the owner stated he is seeing a lot of this and says it is usuyally the tablet's processor is not strong enough for the app.  He said, "The app is getting too big and not properly optimized.  Even for tablets/phones on the DJI approved list."  I connected my Note 8 (state of the art android phone)to is and there are still FPV issues.



This feels like the day Apple came out and admitted it started slowing down it's older iPhones to "protect the batteries".  The truth was they wanted people to move to the newer phones and it works because people get frustrated with the lagging phone.

Alas, I will not be upgraded to a new DJI and will move on.  Likely I will take it to the ocean fly it out as far as I can see it and "land it" in the water.  A viking funeral without the fire.  

Best of luck to all.
2018-5-27
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The more options added to further enhance or to accommodate newer products, the app becomes more and more resource intensive, if your device has less than a quad cpu and or 2gb ram then its going to struggle, even those specs are fast becoming obsolete.....
2018-5-27
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Bashy Posted at 2018-5-27 20:45
The more options added to further enhance or to accommodate newer products, the app becomes more and more resource intensive, if your device has less than a quad cpu and or 2gb ram then its going to struggle, even those specs are fast becoming obsolete.....

Bloat ware.... ha



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'Alas, I will not be upgraded to a new DJI and will move on.  Likely I will take it to the ocean fly it out as far as I can see it and "land it" in the water.  A viking funeral without the fire.  '

Makes no sense, DJI are not selling phones or tablets. Even if you buy the latest aircraft, people are still using the same old phones.
2018-5-27
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Sorry for the troubles. The updated DJI GO/DJI GO4 requires more powerful mobile devices. It is suggested to check the recommended list to ensure the stability. We'll add more mobile devices as the test continues.
2018-5-28
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I don't have issues since I never update the app ha. Nor do I update the phantom, she flies fine right now don't need to risk messing it up. Plus I don't have to worry about DJI and FAA NFZ"s that are not really NFZ's and not being able to fly. Moral from me is don't update anything if everything is working.
2018-5-28
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DJI Susan Posted at 2018-5-28 00:40
Sorry for the troubles. The updated DJI GO/DJI GO4 requires more powerful mobile devices. It is suggested to check the recommended list to ensure the stability. We'll add more mobile devices as the test continues.

Is that what you get from the situation?  Updating the recommended devices not fix the app?  LOL...
2018-5-29
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acenothing Posted at 2018-5-29 08:13
Is that what you get from the situation?  Updating the recommended devices not fix the app?  LOL...

Running the most current firmware, often correct previous problems.

Some opinions may differ.


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RedHotPoker Posted at 2018-5-29 09:14
Running the most current firmware, often correct previous problems.

Some opinions may differ.

Thanks for the reply but do think after months of struggle and taking it to the repair shop, somehow everyone forgot to upgrade the firmware?  The repair shop verified the most current version is installed.

It is DJI bloat-ware plain and simple.

BTW-I am waiting for a sunny day to do my Viking funeral thing.
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acenothing Posted at 2018-5-29 09:29
Thanks for the reply but do think after months of struggle and taking it to the repair shop, somehow everyone forgot to upgrade the firmware?  The repair shop verified the most current version is installed.

It is DJI bloat-ware plain and simple.

You need www.realflight.com Drone version. ;-)

Weather never varies, unless you set it to...


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DJI Susan Posted at 2018-5-28 00:40
Sorry for the troubles. The updated DJI GO/DJI GO4 requires more powerful mobile devices. It is suggested to check the recommended list to ensure the stability. We'll add more mobile devices as the test continues.

Hi. When was this list last updated?  And can you provide a link to it?

The last time I checked it, it was horrendously out of date. It didn't even have the NVidia Shield on it!
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zu_lu Posted at 2018-5-29 12:13
Hi. When was this list last updated?  And can you provide a link to it?

The last time I checked it, it was horrendously out of date. It didn't even have the NVidia Shield on it!

When was DJIGO updated?  I am running Ver 3.1.38 (android).  One of the many steps in the quest to uncover the real problem was to uninstall and reinstall (many times).  What is the version you thought was out there?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dji.pilot

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acenothing Posted at 2018-5-29 12:50
When was DJIGO updated?  I am running Ver 3.1.38 (android).  One of the many steps in the quest to uncover the real problem was to uninstall and reinstall (many times).  What is the version you thought was out there?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=dji.pilot

I was responding to DJI Susan regarding the compatible devices list. I see she has not responded yet.
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zu_lu Posted at 2018-5-30 07:53
I was responding to DJI Susan regarding the compatible devices list. I see she has not responded yet.

ok great THANKS
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MrPinaColada Posted at 2018-5-28 08:31
I don't have issues since I never update the app ha. Nor do I update the phantom, she flies fine right now don't need to risk messing it up. Plus I don't have to worry about DJI and FAA NFZ"s that are not really NFZ's and not being able to fly. Moral from me is don't update anything if everything is working.

Exact.
Doing same. Never touch a running system.
P4 is running very stable without updates.
Also using old version of Flight Assistant, which has still lots of nice options
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DJI Susan Posted at 2018-5-28 00:40
Sorry for the troubles. The updated DJI GO/DJI GO4 requires more powerful mobile devices. It is suggested to check the recommended list to ensure the stability. We'll add more mobile devices as the test continues.

Hi Susan,

Still waiting on your reply. Thanks.
2018-6-5
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zu_lu Posted at 2018-5-30 07:53
I was responding to DJI Susan regarding the compatible devices list. I see she has not responded yet.

Why not just look in the list that is to be found on the product page?
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zu_lu Posted at 2018-6-5 08:43
Hi Susan,

Still waiting on your reply. Thanks.

Sorry for the late response. We'll update on our website if more mobile devices are available. Please keep an eye of the corresponding product page.
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I have been using the SDK version of Go via Kittyhawk, and an oldish ipad. Not having any trouble at all, in fact I can run other apps too at the same time. I am not sure what the differences are between SDK and the proper version, but might be worth a try before you light the pyre!
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KedDK Posted at 2018-6-5 10:28
Why not just look in the list that is to be found on the product page?

Because I didnt know where the list was. Hence why I asked for a link to it.
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DJI Susan Posted at 2018-6-11 23:54
Sorry for the late response. We'll update on our website if more mobile devices are available. Please keep an eye of the corresponding product page.

Hi Susan, you didnt answer my question. Thanks.
2018-6-18
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interesting way of putting it.

the Dji Go 4 app is sort of getting "bloated" i agree, it heats up my iPhone 7 i used to use with my mavic pro. once it got hot it sometimes dropped a few frames..  my samsung S8 constantly crashes the app after a few minutes of use, no idea if its related to CPU/GPU load causing it or just badly optimized app for android causing my S8 to freak out. my motorola G3 i think it was or G2 i cannot remember anymore, is super laggy using it after a few minutes..but didn't crash entirely just slide slow at times

the current device i primarily use with my mavic pro has been my iPhone X.. and while not run into frame drops or lag or stability issues as of yet, i can confirm that it gets very hot after a few minutes of use.. a 15 min flight and the back of the phone under the camera area gets stupid hot!  

so yes the Dji Go 4 application needs a complete rework i think, it is a bit bloated and probably could use rebuilding of the code...it shouldn't cost so much system resources on phones and tablets today to live stream a video and do maybe a bit of background calculation work, something isn't right. i agree.


now onto the battery throttling thing:


the iPhone "battery throttling" thing on the iphone 6 specifically was a real solution to a real issue.  the SoC demanded too much power from the battery/power delivery system.   as for physics of why, simple, the voltage sagged under heavy load or sudden load and tripped protection system causing it to shut off hard or reboot.   this is why mostly happened at sub 30% battery when voltage was already down a bit so the sag would caused it to run over that cut off point.  

i do not support apple just throttling devices without giving us at least a notification or an option to toggle it on or off.  i'm glad people make an uproar about it and forced apple to respond.   

but yes it was a real hardware issue, wasn't just apple trying to sell more iPhones. at-least not initially, seemed to turn into that when they added this feature onto 6S, and the 7 as well.
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HereForTheBeer Posted at 2018-6-18 08:48
interesting way of putting it.

the Dji Go 4 app is sort of getting "bloated" i agree, it heats up my iPhone 7 i used to use with my mavic pro. once it got hot it sometimes dropped a few frames..  my samsung S8 constantly crashes the app after a few minutes of use, no idea if its related to CPU/GPU load causing it or just badly optimized app for android causing my S8 to freak out. my motorola G3 i think it was or G2 i cannot remember anymore, is super laggy using it after a few minutes..but didn't crash entirely just slide slow at times

Thank you for your well thought through response.  I agree the battery issue with the iP{hone was a real problem but it was because Apple did not take the time to make the corrections in the old code and oops...people, like my daughter, got frustrated and when out and got a new phone.  Was that Apple's intent?  Likely not but what a nice side benefit for Apple.

Thanks again
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zu_lu Posted at 2018-6-18 08:26
Hi Susan, you didnt answer my question. Thanks.

KedDK has replied you already. If you use P4, you can find it in the corresponding product page: https://www.dji.com/phantom-4/in ... te_search#downloads
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Using an Galaxy S7 and haven't had any issues with it at all... yet!

Surprisingly it doesn't seem to drain the battery significantly either.  Better not speak too soon though!
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HazzyD Posted at 2018-6-27 02:04
Using an Galaxy S7 and haven't had any issues with it at all... yet!

Surprisingly it doesn't seem to drain the battery significantly either.  Better not speak too soon though!

Do you Android folks still have a Battery Life, under Battery?

I wish DJI would give us iOS users that valuable component, back. Why it was removed, is a bloody crime. Ask any of us iPad users....

I don’t really need OSMO software, in my Phantom 3 Pro Go app...

Going down hill. Like a Lead Zeppelin... grin


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