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FlyDK
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The last idiot hasn't been born yet, and we already have too many among us.
Just watch this - https://fstoppers.com/aerial/dum ... -during-take-269289

If this has been posted earlier in here, I apologize.
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QuadKid
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Freakin moron !! Nough Said !!
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Wachtberger
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Unbelievable, fortunately we've got Aeroscope now and hopefully it will be fully applied everywhere soon!
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EdisonW1979
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OMFG

Words can't begin to describe how STUPID this stunt was!!! My god!

Idiots like these will ruin it for everyone else!!!
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“But the thought of being a lunatic did not greatly trouble him; the horror was that he might also be wrong. ”
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SparksBird
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Wow what a freaking moron.  He needs to be shot.
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EdisonW1979 Posted at 2018-7-18 13:19
OMFG

Words can't begin to describe how STUPID this stunt was!!! My god!

Idiots like these will ruin it for everyone else!!!
Hopefully not, but people who do such things should be prosecuted and punished. This is absolutely insane and unforgivable.
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EdisonW1979
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FlyDK Posted at 2018-7-18 13:28
Idiots like these will ruin it for everyone else!!!
Hopefully not, but people who do such things should be prosecuted and punished. This is absolutely insane and unforgivable.

Agreed!

Hell, if I found someone on the ground piloting a drone next to a runway, I'd be calling my country's emergency line right there, as our law now allows our federal police to respond to such situations.
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Mullheliflier
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Sadly it is only a matter of time before something serious happens. The message that such actions could have serious consequences just does not seem to be getting across.
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M2Wair
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Wow what a moron, a complete tool. Hopefully law enforcement will come calling to his/her door.
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GDL
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One thing we can do is found out the idiot like this and report them to authority. Need to do something to stop this kind of dangerous behaviour.
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HedgeTrimmer
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Unbelievable!  OMG!  Flip'n Moron!  Idiot!  Dipstick!
The Pilot should loose his flying privileges forever; for risking such a close encounter.
The air wake could have caused tiny drone to go out of control.
Not to mention, (but I am), big jet plane could have smashed little drone to pieces!  /s ;)

Dear Airplane failure analysis Engineers:
Please add Drone Strikes to battery of existing bird strike tests.
Sincerely,
Passenger 1A or 1F.
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Axeli
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Question is...why is that no-fly-zone so small?! Nice footage tho, not that smooth but interesting.
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Beautiful shot, but amazingly stupid.
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Axeli Posted at 2018-7-18 23:52
Question is...why is that no-fly-zone so small?!  Nice footage tho, not that smooth but interesting.

Have the same exact question as you too....

Having said that, it was unwise to fly at the airport in the first place
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miketmtpro
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According to that link, drone was outside of the NFZ. Perhaps they should widen it there in that country. IDK, the drone was legal there perhaps.. stupid as it is.

I would not call that a near miss. Drone must have been very far away, especially an Anafi as they claim, which would not handle the jet wash. And why did they claim Anafi which is a much lighter drone and would get tossed around in winds at that height. MP has zoom as well. Where did the article writer get his facts? Geo zone ends at the runway just a few hundred feet out? LOL

This was all over FB too, and many have said it's CGI mixed in with other footage. The jet has no wash, no nav lights active, no V stab strobe. No port or starboard lights.
A380 should have P/S lights flash 2x in succession. There is NO strobe on this jet.

Total BS video.

edit: this is really messed up because orig footage had no lights active when I saw it yesterday on FB. After all the debate, they added a couple in. Still no TO lights.

That altitude for drone must be well over 800'. Not sure an Anafi would do that


It's a fake... probably
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Axeli
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Oh I'm 100% sure it's not a fake
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miketmtpro Posted at 2018-7-19 02:35
According to that link, drone was outside of the NFZ. Perhaps they should widen it there in that country. IDK, the drone was legal there perhaps.. stupid as it is.

I would not call that a near miss. Drone must have been very far away, especially an Anafi as they claim, which would not handle the jet wash. And why did they claim Anafi which is a much lighter drone and would get tossed around in winds at that height. MP has zoom as well. Where did the article writer get his facts? Geo zone ends at the runway just a few hundred feet out? LOL

Max flying height for Parrot Anafi is 150 meters above the takeoff spot !!!

Yes, the video looks too fake as I see it.

Regards Leif.
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Lamplighter55
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Basically breaking all the rules and potentially endangering 100's of people lives and property. The only way this juvenile behaviour can be reduced is through education and sanction. Heavy jail term for the first one caught might send the right message. Stating the obvious - but one has to wonder what this person actually thought they were doing. Could they know that the plane was going to take that track - what if the plane had to do a loop round due to any onboard fault? What beggars believe it that they were actually crabbing further into the flight path as the plane ascended.
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gnirtS
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Well the geographical area is correct, its a real airport that does take Emirates A380s and the surrounding terrain matches exactly what you can see on google earth so it appears even if the PLANE isn't real the reality of drone hovering at height over that area is true.

Jet wash wouldnt be an issue, the drone is off to the side and jet wash is going to be behind and travelling downwards.  I don't see heat haze and i see a strange reflection on the plane and those are the only 2 things that make me question it.

A quick bit of measuring from google earth and it seems the drone is 7000ft downrange from takeoff location which is about right for the height and the timing from rotation.  Its off to the side by maybe 500ft of the centre line (again line up on the video - that last 10 seconds or ground is the most useful part).

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/pl ... irport/@-20.4393179,57.712699,1988m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x217c8ae0b03bb125:0xf1f11c4736d0f5cf!8m2!3d-20.4331335!4d57.6789971  if anyone wants to go play with earth 3D view and measurements.


Most countries arent IN DJIs geo database and have a tiny or no geo fencing at all.

Due to the long runway there, DJIs Geo ends pretty much at the airport fence.

So from what i see theres no doubt someone flew a drone at this location, this close to an airport.  The only debate is was it a real plane going past or not.

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froesch
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should get in jail for a long time to think about it... not a problem for the plane or the pilots. it's like a bird for them but it is not necessary to get all the people in a dangerous situation.
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Mgozer
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It seems to me that it has been shot with Mavic Pro, because of the step zoom.
The Anafi has a smooth zoom.
By the way, that guy shall be arrested and submitted a big fine.
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gnirtS Posted at 2018-7-19 04:46
Well the geographical area is correct, its a real airport that does take Emirates A380s and the surrounding terrain matches exactly what you can see on google earth so it appears even if the PLANE isn't real the reality of drone hovering at height over that area is true.

Jet wash wouldnt be an issue, the drone is off to the side and jet wash is going to be behind and travelling downwards.  I don't see heat haze and i see a strange reflection on the plane and those are the only 2 things that make me question it.

very interesting analysis gnirtS!
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El Kab0ng
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This is why we can't have nice things.
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A CW
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And that is what happens when the operator has the option to turn off geo fencing... I rest my case!
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gnirtS
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A CW Posted at 2018-7-19 08:49
And that is what happens when the operator has the option to turn off geo fencing... I rest my case!

Nothing to do with turning Geofencing off.
Step outside the USA and you'll find most countries it either doesn't exist at all or just a very rough 1 mile circle around airport.
The location this drone is hovering is (just) outside the DJI Geo no fly zone which extends to about 400ft past the airport fence.
And not all drones have geofencing.
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gnirtS Posted at 2018-7-19 09:07
Nothing to do with turning Geofencing off.
Step outside the USA and you'll find most countries it either doesn't exist at all or just a very rough 1 mile circle around airport.
The location this drone is hovering is (just) outside the DJI Geo no fly zone which extends to about 400ft past the airport fence.

That's my point - this flight claims to be with a the Parrot Anafi which enables the operator to turn off geo fencing... If this was with a DJI drone the geo fencing would have prohibited the flight. Geo fencing does work very effectively on my DJI drones in the UK and well beyond a one-mile radius.
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First I would like to stat that I agree drones should stay away from real AC.  

But I would like to ask, lets get real for a moment, an airbus A380 weights about 277,000kg empty depending upon version, etc, while an MP weights in about 1kg, MA is half that.  Now if a drone could actually get past the wash, (sideways from front too), and hit an engine directly...maybe and issue....but I have seen where modern engines are designed to survive a whole large bird being ingested(tested with frozen chickens....lol).  Same with the windshields, front cone, etc.  Now, head on, it may dent the external skin of the plane....plane may have to land early....passengers inconvenienced....etc.   Just curious?

Not saying we should try it at all, but is a small drone truly dangerous to a modern commercial jet, or would it be more of an inconvenience?  Single prop small plane, might damage prop enough it looses thrust, and becomes and issue quick....yeah
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sica
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The video is a 100% fake. At the take-off, Airbus does not have a bright beacon flashing lamp. The turbojet does not notice the hot air that is huge and very visible on the A380 engines ... especially the day and the distance to which it's been filmed
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gnirtS
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Merced69 Posted at 2018-7-19 09:16
First I would like to stat that I agree drones should stay away from real AC.  

But I would like to ask, lets get real for a moment, an airbus A380 weights about 277,000kg empty depending upon version, etc, while an MP weights in about 1kg, MA is half that.  Now if a drone could actually get past the wash, (sideways from front too), and hit an engine directly...maybe and issue....but I have seen where modern engines are designed to survive a whole large bird being ingested(tested with frozen chickens....lol).  Same with the windshields, front cone, etc.  Now, head on, it may dent the external skin of the plane....plane may have to land early....passengers inconvenienced....etc.   Just curious?

Theres a very common misconception here.  Yes engines are tested to not *suffer an uncontained failure* on hitting a bird.  However, a bird in the engine can easily cause blade damage and even if not requires the aircraft to be grounded until it can be inspected and certified as undamaged (or repaired).
This costs lots of money.
If a plane has to land early it'll most likely need to dump tens of thousands of dollars of fuel.  More cost.
It may also cause knock on delays to other flights at a busy airport as it takes up someone elses slot.  These other flights become late, people can miss connections so more money.
People on THAT plane also might miss connections etc so compensation.
If the engine needs inspection it'll requite an engineer - takes time.  If there isnt one at the airport that flight is cancelled so compensation, rebookings and so on.  And a knock on effect for the next leg that plane flies.
Even small dents generally need to be repaired which costs money.

...and thats the issue, a drone isnt going to down a plane BUT it can cause damage or have the potential to cause damage which needs to be investigated which costs ultimately tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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gnirtS
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A CW Posted at 2018-7-19 09:11
That's my point - this flight claims to be with a the Parrot Anafi which enables the operator to turn off geo fencing... If this was with a DJI drone the geo fencing would have prohibited the flight. Geo fencing does work very effectively on my DJI drones in the UK and well beyond a one-mile radius.

Err if it was a DJI drone the geofencing would have allowed the flight.
Check the DJI Geo map online, the NFZ only extends to the airport fence not where this drone was flying.
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Real or not, the fact that you can get that close to the end of the runway and still be able to take off is insane. Here in the UK I wouldn't be able to take off anywhere near the airport (and no, before you ask I havent done that). Now we all know that we're all pretty responsible here on these forums and I don't think any of us would do such a thing, however we can't account for the braindeads out there that think "This is awesome". Yet again it is the minority ruining it for the rest of us. It only takes one complete idiot like this one to spark off yet another wave of anti-drone sentiment.

So far I have been lucky, every time I have had people close to me whilst flying they have been very interested and actually ask if I can send them photo's. I have yet to have anyone upset with me. Things like this though, again whether it be real or fake hurt our hobby. It is sad.
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miketmtpro
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I like how the author assumes the type of drone. No facts in this at all. No confirmation of a real or fake doctored video. People go nuts over it. Problem with news today is anyone can claim anything without anything factual
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FlyDK
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miketmtpro Posted at 2018-7-20 05:14
I like how the author assumes the type of drone. No facts in this at all. No confirmation of a real or fake doctored video. People go nuts over it. Problem with news today is anyone can claim anything without anything factual

Well, people assumes everything. In here, even details about DJI drones that doesn't exist.

We must assume that the video has been shown to demonstrate what we should not do and it seems valid to me and should do the same to everyone else - at least the essence of it. If you think about it that way, it shouldn't matter what some believe and others think they know.
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miketmtpro
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I just prefer not having people in an uproar about drones based on non factual videos.
I don't want more laws enacted based on bs.

It's bad enough I had to convince neighbors that my drones can't zoom in 100x through their blinds, scan them in infrared like the stupid news has reported here.
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miketmtpro
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If this was real and the pilot was legally flying in that zone it only suggests changing that country's zone laws. No prob with that.
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miketmtpro Posted at 2018-7-20 05:53
If this was real and the pilot was legally flying in that zone it only suggests changing that country's zone laws. No prob with that.

The video tells me that people have become so accustomed to rules and laws that they can not figure out how to analyze and evaluate anymore themselves. What I mean is that just because a restriction on a map does not limit enough to secure any airplane going in and out of the airport, one should imagine that a situation like this might be boundary overrun and may prove to be extremely dangerous... why risk anything.
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FlyDK Posted at 2018-7-20 06:15
The video tells me that people have become so accustomed to rules and laws that they can not figure out how to analyze and evaluate anymore themselves. What I mean is that just because a restriction on a map does not limit enough to secure any airplane going in and out of the airport, one should imagine that a situation like this might be boundary overrun and may prove to be extremely dangerous... why risk anything.

That's fine. The article should have been titled more appropriately. "Is this an example of a safe zone for drones in this country?"

Instead its likely a fake video,  no confirmation of which drone. Anafi would struggle in that height and winds. Author based on a mere assumption. Out of any geo zone that could have been a Phantom as well as any other.

Too many things wrong here to create such reactions.
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Lamplighter55
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To all who think this is a 'fake' video/plane. It is a real plane as shot from a drone. I can say that such a shot can be created using CGI but to get it to that level of finish and correctly mimicking all aspects as depicted in this video would entail professional levels of CGI creation. If you look carefully, you will see the correct shadow under plane as it takes off, also though the sun glint looks odd, its real too - as you can see a corresponding brighter patch on the ground below where the sun is shining through the broken clouds. Also there is a characteristic mirage effect from the hot engine exhausts evident as the plane passes the drone's position, warping the detail in the vegetation behind. If the flyer had held position and kept the A380 in view a bit longer we would have seen it ascend into the cloud base.
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