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So Transport Canada finally unveiled their new drone regulations that go into effect June 1st, 2019. I'm reading through the Advanced Operations section and I notice that in order to fly as an advanced operator you need to use an approved airframe. No DJI drones qualify. So does this mean that as of June 1st I can't use my Inspire 2 for Advanced operations, which all commercial operations fall under? For anyone interested in this topic here is the linked Transport Canada page which details the new regulations.
https://www.tc.gc.ca/en/services/aviation/drone-safety/find-category-drone-operation.html




1-9 18:05
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Funny, but you're right!
1-9 22:51
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Maybe they got wind of the infamous inspire 2  firmware Problems and decided that maybe they should only have safe drones flying in their airspace. Lmao. I knew this would catch up with them sooner or later maybe now they will take it seriously and fix it!!!!!
1-10 07:08
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The Inspire 2 was banned from flying in the UK a little while ago for a few months by the CAA due to the Battery issues which are STILL not resolved.
Maybe it is time to ditch the Inspire 2 in favour of more reliable alternatives, a permanent ban is possible since DJI is unable to fix this machine.
1-10 07:33
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Yep they should stick to consumer drones. They’ve bitten off more than they can chew.  They refuse to listen to their customers complaints about the firmware  and ignore us over and over they only patch things up and never fix them permanently.
1-10 08:19
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Yikes..... this is really going to impact many of my friends in Canada. I sure hope they figure this out before June 1 2019!

Funny how some are quick to judge DJI's Inspire 2 as a bad drone. DJI has been working hard to take care of the battery issues in the last FW.  Nothing is perfect

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1-10 10:53
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RichJ53 Posted at 1-10 10:53
Yikes..... this is really going to impact many of my friends in Canada. I sure hope they figure this out before June 1 2019!

Funny how some are quick to judge DJI's Inspire 2 as a bad drone. DJI has been working hard to take care of the battery issues in the last FW.  Nothing is perfect

You're defending DJI much like people who blindly defend Apple and Tesla. It should have NEVER broken to begin with, it's simply unacceptable. We're not talking about a smart phone or TV, we're talking about a safety critical system that is hundreds of feet in the air flying at significant speeds with significant kinetic energy.

1-10 12:02
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RichJ53 Posted at 1-10 10:53
Yikes..... this is really going to impact many of my friends in Canada. I sure hope they figure this out before June 1 2019!

Funny how some are quick to judge DJI's Inspire 2 as a bad drone. DJI has been working hard to take care of the battery issues in the last FW.  Nothing is perfect

Oh, I was expecting that and I'm prepared. It's inevitable, sooner or later will happen everywhere in similar form, at least in developed parts of the world.

Basically all pilots of drones that weigh between 250g and 25kg (DJI Spark including) must get a pilot certificate. Pilots are divided into 2 groups with different certificates (basic and advanced), where advanced certificate will require ground school training, exam and in-person flight review. All drones that weigh between 250g and 25kg must be registered and clearly marked ...

I just took the ground school training, got my certificate
as a drone pilot, waiting for radio operator licence, going to register my birds, etc. On funny side, just ordered a vest with huge Certified Drone Operator sign embroiled on back, purchased a hard hat and a walkie-talkie with huge antenna ... Nobody will dare to question my authority, I guarantee !
1-10 13:30
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Matthew Dobrski Posted at 1-10 13:30
Oh, I was expecting that and I'm prepared. It's inevitable, sooner or later will happen everywhere in similar form, at least in developed parts of the world.

Basically all pilots of drones that weigh between 250g and 25kg (DJI Spark including) must get a pilot certificate. Pilots are divided into 2 groups with different certificates (basic and advanced), where advanced certificate will require ground school training, exam and in-person flight review. All drones that weigh between 250g and 25kg must be registered and clearly marked ...

Also have groundschool with cert as well as radio certificates but it seems like we first have to take the basic online test before we can register and apply for the “advanced” certificate, a second course on line. Many steps,, Transport Canada recommends that we take “groundschool” prior to taking the online test for advanced certification so even if we have groundschool we still need 2 courses (and passed booth) before we can request the. Flight-test.
BTW. Ground school cert is not valid for any certificate, it only helps for knowledge test, you still have to take the course.
1-10 14:40
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Cougar1 Posted at 1-10 14:40
Also have groundschool with cert as well as radio certificates but it seems like we first have to take the basic online test before we can register and apply for the “advanced” certificate, a second course on line. Many steps,, Transport Canada recommends that we take “groundschool” prior to taking the online test for advanced certification so even if we have groundschool we still need 2 courses (and passed booth) before we can request the. Flight-test.

Don't forget about the "SAFE drone. Do you need a SAFE drone to take the flight test?
1-10 14:47
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epicjib Posted at 1-10 14:47
Don't forget about the "SAFE drone. Do you need a SAFE drone to take the flight test?

Double post.
1-10 14:53
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epicjib Posted at 1-10 14:47
Don't forget about the "SAFE drone. Do you need a SAFE drone to take the flight test?

Think you need a drone that fit the “Safe” category before you can fly test but not sure, maybe you can, and you just don't get the rating for “advanced” flying on the drone until it has passed TC.
1-10 14:53
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Matthew Dobrski Posted at 1-10 13:30
Oh, I was expecting that and I'm prepared. It's inevitable, sooner or later will happen everywhere in similar form, at least in developed parts of the world.

Basically all pilots of drones that weigh between 250g and 25kg (DJI Spark including) must get a pilot certificate. Pilots are divided into 2 groups with different certificates (basic and advanced), where advanced certificate will require ground school training, exam and in-person flight review. All drones that weigh between 250g and 25kg must be registered and clearly marked ...

I love it.....  Thanks for the update.

How are you doing with your I2 and Matrice 200? all the batteries working correctly now?  This is coming from a blind man apparently

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1-10 15:17
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Cougar1 Posted at 1-10 14:40
Also have groundschool with cert as well as radio certificates but it seems like we first have to take the basic online test before we can register and apply for the “advanced” certificate, a second course on line. Many steps,, Transport Canada recommends that we take “groundschool” prior to taking the online test for advanced certification so even if we have groundschool we still need 2 courses (and passed booth) before we can request the. Flight-test.
BTW. Ground school cert is not valid for any certificate, it only helps for knowledge test, you still have to take the course.

Nice to see your post and information. Looks like you are ahead of the curve.

Hope your I2 is working great since your mishap … Sorry that I have been away for awhile. family health issues...
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1-10 15:19
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RichJ53 Posted at 1-10 15:19
Nice to see your post and information. Looks like you are ahead of the curve.

Hope your I2 is working great since your mishap … Sorry that I have been away for awhile. family health issues...

Hi Rich, yes all good with my I2, trying to stay ahead. Just took the online course for the “Basic” pilot, no problem, just 35 questions. On to the next step after we get the “Safe” certifications for our drones (need for all my drones). Best, Cougar.
1-10 15:26
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RichJ53 Posted at 1-10 15:19
Nice to see your post and information. Looks like you are ahead of the curve.

Hope your I2 is working great since your mishap … Sorry that I have been away for awhile. family health issues...

Hi Rich, yes all good with my I2, trying to stay ahead. Just took the online course for the “Basic” pilot, no problem, just 35 questions. On to the next step after we get the “Safe” certifications for our drones (need for all my drones). Best, Cougar.
1-10 15:26
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RichJ53 Posted at 1-10 15:17
I love it.....  Thanks for the update.

How are you doing with your I2 and Matrice 200? all the batteries working correctly now?  This is coming from a blind man apparently

Rich, we're just digesting this new info from Transportation Canada for now, many questions must be answered ... I've spent almost $750 USD on requested ground school training and exam provided by one of officially recommended companies here in Western Canada (Aerobotica). It must render some sort of advance ... Better ... We'll see ...

All my birds are hibernating now with most recent FW's, which are temporarily patched. Last time I was flying Inspire she was behaving fine, but Matrice was RTH-ing unexpectedly at 40-45% battery. As far as I know they're still trying to solve the power management issues and come up with final FW version for both birds (I2 and M200) using TB50/55 batteries ...

Cheers,
Matthew.
1-10 16:35
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Cougar1 Posted at 1-10 14:40
Also have groundschool with cert as well as radio certificates but it seems like we first have to take the basic online test before we can register and apply for the “advanced” certificate, a second course on line. Many steps,, Transport Canada recommends that we take “groundschool” prior to taking the online test for advanced certification so even if we have groundschool we still need 2 courses (and passed booth) before we can request the. Flight-test.
BTW. Ground school cert is not valid for any certificate, it only helps for knowledge test, you still have to take the course.

Cougar, there must be some advantage of having Ground School cert. In my case Aerobotica is one of local course providers listed by Transport Canada. I can't see this certificate as being ignored in the process of fulfilling all new requirements and obtaining all necessary permits, basic or advanced.
1-10 16:47
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Matthew Dobrski Posted at 1-10 16:47
Cougar, there must be some advantage of having Ground School cert. In my case Aerobotica is one of local course providers listed by Transport Canada. I can't see this certificate as being ignored in the process of fulfilling all new requirements and obtaining all necessary permits, basic or advanced.

If you look at the requirements for the “Advanced License” it states that they recommend, “Groundschool” prior to taking the Advanced test. No credit for the Groundschool just recommend that you have it. Also note that there is quite a few changes to the regs that where just posted. If you read it all there is quite a lot to consider.

Also the registration of the drone itself and all the documentation you need to keep and should you ever sell a drone that you registered you need to de-register your drone and also give all these documents to the new owner. More importantly we need. DJI to declare our drones “safe” and certify them.
BTW, did see your post to Rich, re the batts, the I2 is not affected, only the 200.
1-10 17:18
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Here is a list of approved drones for Advanced operations, not one DJI drone but very expensive units.

https://www.tc.gc.ca/en/services ... ng-right-drone.html
1-11 11:04
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Hello and good day. Thank you for sharing this very informative information regarding the new law that will take in effect on June 01, 2019. This information will be very useful to all our drone pilots in Canada and thank you for your support.
1-11 15:13
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The real question I'm trying to answer is are you able to use an Inspire 2 for commercial work in Canada? It seems from the new regs that you won't be able to use an Inspire 2 for commercial work in Canada because it's not listed as one of the drones approved by Transport Canada. I primarily fly on Film and commercial shoots with an Inspire 2. This might mean that I would need to switch to a more expensive platform judging from the approved list of drones. While the Inspire 2 was definitely not a perfect drone platform, it is very competitively priced and the camera systems that we have used worked well for our needs. Not every client needs or can afford a drone system that flies with a Red Weapon attached.
1-11 15:16
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tlepp Posted at 1-11 15:16
The real question I'm trying to answer is are you able to use an Inspire 2 for commercial work in Canada? It seems from the new regs that you won't be able to use an Inspire 2 for commercial work in Canada because it's not listed as one of the drones approved by Transport Canada. I primarily fly on Film and commercial shoots with an Inspire 2. This might mean that I would need to switch to a more expensive platform judging from the approved list of drones. While the Inspire 2 was definitely not a perfect drone platform, it is very competitively priced and the camera systems that we have used worked well for our needs. Not every client needs or can afford a drone system that flies with a Red Weapon attached.

It's a classic case of bureaucrats overlooking an important brand and I'm sure it will be fixed before Summer. Please note that Alta brand - certainly significant in this category - is not listed as well. It's hard to ignore DJI products sharing 75% of drones sold globally, if not more. The dust will settle down eventually ...

On the other hand, such "provocative" overlooking may force DJI to pay more attention to fly-worthiness issues of their enterprise class drones, plaguing them recently.
1-11 16:23
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This change in the regulations is making it impossible to plan for commercial drone jobs using DJI equipment. After doing more research it seems that DJI is not an option for commercial operators in Class C, D, E or F airspace after June 1, 2019. What still isn't clear to me is can you get an advanced standing certificate and use a DJI drone for commercial operations in class G airspace? It looks like my company is going to have to invest some money in Transport Canada approved drones if we want able to operate this summer under the new Transport Canada guidelines. Anyway, if anyone else comes across some relevant information it would be helpful to have it shared. I'm sure we're all just trying to figure out how these new regulations impact the drone industry in Canada going forward.
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