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Seems the main blemish of the M2P, against broad acclaim and positive reviews, is 4K video performance, especially relative to the Phantom 4 Pro.

There's the possibility of improvements and features through firmware updates to come, but considering the state of the product now and what you've learned in these 6 months, would you still buy?


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Would you still buy the M2P, knowing what you know now (6 months after release) and possible changes which may arrive through FW updates?
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M2P should not be compared to P4Pro, P4Pro was €250 more expensive two years before M2P, it should be compared to what it came from, Mavic Pro and it is a huge improvement on both Mavic Pro and Mavic Platinum Pro , I think people should compare like with like to see if something measures up .
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M2P should not be compared to P4Pro, P4Pro was €250 more expensive two years before M2P, it should be compared to what it came from, Mavic Pro and it is a huge improvement on both Mavic Pro and Mavic Platinum Pro , I think people should compare like with like to see if something measures up .
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Fair point.

But people are going to wonder why 1-inch sensors don't produce almost identical results.

Also, 2 years later, you would expect improvement at a given price point or same performance for a lower price.  That is what technological advances have conditioned buyers into expecting, to a certain extent.

Now if you want to say that both products are released at the same time but one is $250 more because of a better processor or the actual drone costs more to build (maybe better motors and bigger batteries in the Phantom 4 Pro?), then it would be harder to argue.
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For some to admit m2p is not as good as p4p is to admit that they invested money in a wrong product. Not many will admit their own mistake.
m2p is a great drone. IF. If there were no other drones. If someone dropping $K on a drone they should know what they getting. Fancy tripod with OK camera (m2p) or fancy camera with OK tripod (p4p). Because you can bragg all you want how fancy is your folding tripod but p4p camera still better.

I think m2p owners feeling kinda sad on a inside since many options are not available to them: zoom like mZ, ATTI, mechanical shutter and 4k60fps like p4p. And even that hyped camera not as good as p4p camera.
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3BEPb Posted at 3-6 14:54
For some to admit m2p is not as good as p4p is to admit that they invested money in a wrong product. Not many will admit their own mistake.
m2p is a great drone. IF. If there were no other drones. If someone dropping $K on a drone they should know what they getting. Fancy tripod with OK camera (m2p) or fancy camera with OK tripod (p4p). Because you can bragg all you want how fancy is your folding tripod but p4p camera still better.

I’m not to sure about all that, when people bought M2P , phantom was two years old, and people didn’t want to invest in old tech, yes the camera for video and only video has a bit more to it, bu5 I have seen many videos made with M2P that are a whole lot better than a lot I’ve seen with P4Pro.

As far as a flying machine M2P is way ahead of P4Pro and I know this from experience, you talk of bigger cameras tripods etc, one thing we all know is by a country mile Mavic is the-choice of photographers so there is something there that tells me photographers can get all they need from Mavic .

I don’t think there are many who suffer buyers remorse about not buying a P4Pro, P4Pro is a great craft don’t get me wrong , but it old tech old style, I think we will see a P5 soon and this will see the end of P4Pro.
Comparisons should not be made about these 2 craft, they are totally different, but one thing sets them apart, there are probably 5 times as many M2 out there than P4Pro, not so many people can be wrong .
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Photography now a days is a skill of editing and post production. No doubt that m2p gives you all the starting points if your final product depends heavily on post production.
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wco81 Posted at 3-6 14:21
Fair point.

But people are going to wonder why 1-inch sensors don't produce almost identical results.

There are bigger batteries in P4Pro, simply because of its weight it needs a bigger battery to keep it flying,
I will give you the necessary comparison with P4Pro, it was released 8 months after P4 cost of P4 €1200 cost of P4Pro €1800 why because of the Camera and yes it was worth every penny and yes it has 60fps and better sharper video, than M2 but it certainly does not shoot better stills.
Long and short anyone thinking about buying  P4Pro should not even be considering a Mavic , save harder for a inspire 2 .
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Different products aimed at different users, at least originally.

The M2P, despite the Pro suffix, was likely mostly aimed at consumers.

The Phantom was more directed at the the professional as a B drone and Prosumers but the M2P increasingly seems to inhabit that space which leaves the original Mavic, the Zoom and Air probably as consumer favorites.

Whilst the Phantom has (marginally) better PQ it now otherwise has older technology and is less advanced than the much newer M2P.

I would regard the Phantom 4 as obsolete unless you specifically require the version with Ground Station for Specialist mapping projects. - A decent buy s/h and at the right price perhaps.

As such and until the P5 is launched the sensible upgrade would imho be from a M2P to the Inspire 2 simply because of the dual controls and i/c camera choice.

Drone technology has advanced incrementally and looking at TV trends I would expect 8k to be the next big thing, certainly for the Inspire.
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3BEPb Posted at 3-6 15:37
Photography now a days is a skill of editing and post production. No doubt that m2p gives you all the starting points if your final product depends heavily on post production.

I don’t believe any photographers worth their salt will opt hoping everything can be fixed and done in post, there is no more work being done on M2 as opposed to P4Pro , since the beginning of video/photography there has been post work and it certainly adds a lot to this profession/hobby IMO .
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P4 pro is out of production.  I don think that who owns M2P is disappointed. If you know how to take good shots and videos you will do it very well with M2Z and M2P, though camera specs difference.  Specs don t make much difference for who manage the job. Many professional are mixing iphone and canon 5d for wedding videos and after post processing you cannot tell which is which.  Take in mind that here is not too much difference among all DJI cameras above spark and below Inspire models. All are flying cellphones, with poor quality cameras. Nothing close to professional cameras. And P4 is an old brick flying cellphone, like firsts 90´s Motorola. Obsolete.
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Yes, better quality shots vs MPro straight out of the box, handles better, aux light, ActiveTrack and Occusync v2, more powerful motors, bigger battery, etc. etc. etc.

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P4 is not foldable.. how to compare these 2 ...
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I think there's little question that it would be better than the Mavic Pro, since it came out a couple of years later.

Of course all these improvements came with a 50% price increase so that should be expected.

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I would buy the Mavic 2 Pro every time - best drone I have owned to date. The Phantom 4 Pro was a loud, over rated poor mans Inspire with uneven horizons and 8 bit recording in a back pack - glad I got rid of it despite being one of the first to own it back in November 2016 (now old, obsolete tech that's been off the shelves for months while the M2P flourishes).
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I am not sure what the replacement intervalls are with DJI.

If it's yearly you have another 6 months or so until a new Mavic is released. Depending how urgently you need a drone it may be worth waiting for. A newer model will most likely improve in several areas making the previous model old technology (and usually much cheaper). That's just the way it goes.

As for now, the M2Pro is the top consumer/prosumer allrounder drone to get (imho). Not much else from other manufacturers.

I am not at all biased
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*DM* Posted at 3-7 03:13
I am not sure what the replacement intervalls are with DJI.

If it's yearly you have another 6 months or so until a new Mavic is released. Depending how urgently you need a drone it may be worth waiting for. A newer model will most likely improve in several areas making the previous model old technology (and usually much cheaper). That's just the way it goes.

Interval for P4 To P4Pro 7 months
Interval for Mavic Pro to M2P 22 months
P4Pro is now 28 months old, so there is no clear pattern, you also have upgrades to craft, I expect maybe for next Christmas we might see M2P Platinum
I do hope and think we might see P5pro this year , it# one personally I’m waiting for before I sell P4Pro .
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wco81 Posted at 3-6 17:51
I think there's little question that it would be better than the Mavic Pro, since it came out a couple of years later.

Of course all these improvements came with a 50% price increase so that should be expected.

I think increase was less than 25%, for that you got much more redundancy features some more safety features and of course a camera twice the size, longer flying time 4 minutes which is a lot when we talk about drones , more than 10% in this case, much better video transmission and radio transmission and a whole lot of other tech.
I think it would be fair to say when you consider what you had with Mavic Pro and what you now get with M2P that proportionally the prices are almost the same.

I think if you get bogged down in all different opinions you will never make up your mind and will continually lose out on what is an exceptional experience, with great new technology and a whole heap of fun .
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Ok lets look at it from different point.
Why buy mavic 2 pro but not mavic 2 zoom?
Why pay extra almost $400?

I can't wait for explanation about better camera and so on from people that just claimed camera quality means nothing. Its essentially same drone minus 1" sensor camera. But postprocessing can take care of it right?
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Good advise hallmark007.

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3BEPb Posted at 3-7 08:42
Ok lets look at it from different point.
Why buy mavic 2 pro but not mavic 2 zoom?
Why pay extra almost $400?
20mp 1inch sensor. Less noise more resolution. Manual aperture change.

Agree, the cost difference is too large.

I also like the 40odd mp still option on the zoom even if it is limited in use. They should implement that on the 2 Pro as it is simply a multi exposure feature and not hardware dependent.

DJI ... please add that in an update together with smoother manual aperture changes. - Thank you.
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*DM* Posted at 3-7 08:51
20mp 1inch sensor. Less noise more resolution. Manual aperture change.

Agree, the cost difference is too large.

Here we go
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3BEPb Posted at 3-7 08:58
Here we go

Buyers remorse?
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3BEPb Posted at 3-7 08:42
Ok lets look at it from different point.
Why buy mavic 2 pro but not mavic 2 zoom?
Why pay extra almost $400?

It’s very hard to take anyone serious that has to make up stuff to try prove something that might suit the fact they are not flogging a dead horse .

M2P €1499
M2Z €1249

Your figure of €400 makes no sense .
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Saw one guy on Youtube speculate that the P5 would be foldable.

Probably still bigger than Mavic but foldable.
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hallmark007 Posted at 3-7 09:33
It’s very hard to take anyone serious that has to make up stuff to try prove something that might suit the fact they are not flogging a dead horse .

M2P €1499
I guess dollar sign before 400 went unnoticed by you. Hey don’t put words in my mouth. I think you are the one twisting it by converting to euros that got nothing to do with my post
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3BEPb Posted at 3-7 10:12
I guess dollar sign before 400 went unnoticed by you. Hey don’t put words in my mouth. I think you are the one twisting it by converting to euros that got nothing to do with my post

its hard to believe you would post that completely ridiculous post.

one is M2 with smart controller other is M2Z without smart controller.

if you check the dji website you will find that prices in euro and dollar are numerical "exactly the same," but thats obviously to difficult for you to work out. I would post these pictures but I think you've been embarrassed enough.

so try making your point without TWISTING to suit your argument .
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Thank you google!
M2pro is a great drone! Is it best value for your money drone? Hell NO!!!

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By the by has your camera fell off yet because glue dried out?
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I think the fool forgot to mention he was wrong , and that the M2P is indeed NOT $400 More Than M2Z But $249 , counting is very difficult for him, it’s probaly why he ended up with a M2Z .

Sometimes you just have to show proof to make others understand.
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Only mentally challenged people paying MSRP prices.
You are one of those.
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hallmark007 Posted at 3-6 14:15
M2P should not be compared to P4Pro, P4Pro was €250 more expensive two years before M2P, it should be compared to what it came from, Mavic Pro and it is a huge improvement on both Mavic Pro and Mavic Platinum Pro , I think people should compare like with like to see if something measures up .
Just look at this nonsense.
He tells me what can’t be compared.
Of course you compare them. They are all right now available to buy. And prices we will compare not in a past or future. But right now.
And for $1100 p4advanced is greater value than $1500 m2p. As of now.

Don’t hype people to spend extra money on something they can get cheaper and better. Just cause you stuck in that hole doesn’t mean others have to follow.
At least admit that m2p not everything it promised to be. Find your balls and admit it.
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3BEPb Posted at 3-7 12:51
Just look at this nonsense.
He tells me what can’t be compared.
Of course you compare them. They are all right now available to buy. And prices we will compare not in a past or future. But right now.

P4 Advanced,a made up drone consisting of the old P4 body frame with a P4Pro Camera , basically a poor mans p4pro , has it got Ocusync 1 NO Ocusync 2 NO OA YES but only the same as an old P4 it Has two M2 x8 and the new technology is to much to mention.

The Advance is on dji site for $1100 why, because it’s old tech and dji are getting rid of it, for me it’s worth $750 Max. It’s a P4 on steroids or a poor mans P4Pro .

I suppose when you buy an advanced because it’s a cheap version of a P4Pro, first mistake, then you but a M2Z because you thought it was $400 cheaper than a M2Pro but then realised it was only $249 cheaper and only has a camera the size of a iPhone Doh serious jealousy going on now . Hehe ;+):::::::::
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The simple fact that archaic p4advanced has better camera than modern m2p speaks volumes, Continue self hypnoses. Brainwashed by hasselblad sign.




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3BEPb Posted at 3-7 15:16
The simple fact that archaic p4advanced has better camera than modern m2p speaks volumes, Continue self hypnoses. Brainwashed by hasselblad sign.

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Yes but it’s just a pity that bird cannot fly as good as an M2.

Your problem is you don’t know what your talking about,you obviously didn’t bother to read the thread, you completely ignored the heading or what the discussion was about.

I own a P4Pro I own a Mavic Pro I own a M2 , I don’t own a poor mans P4Pro bu5 I have flown one and it doesn’t come within an asses roar of an M2 for flying or technology or portability or battery life it’s easily the loudest drone dji has , seriously you shouldn’t be offering that as a comparison to an M2, it’s a crock of sh#t and that’s why dji are selling it off .
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Same mantra over and over. Like repeat sugar 10000 times and salt becomes sweet.
People proving you with examples all over but you like stupid donkey posting stuff that only your psychiatrist is interested in
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The benefits of either are in the eye of the beholder. I opted for portability and an improved camera on the MP2 compared to my MP1 -Sold on to a grateful buyer, meeting their requirement.  I wasn't looking for a P4P neither was he as he wanted portability, decent flight capability and acceptable image quality for his needs..
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3BEPb Posted at 3-7 21:40
Same mantra over and over. Like repeat sugar 10000 times and salt becomes sweet.
People proving you with examples all over but you like stupid donkey posting stuff that only your psychiatrist is interested in

It’s very hard to take anyone seriously if can’t even do basic subtraction . LMAO .....
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Celsus Posted at 3-7 22:37
The benefits of either are in the eye of the beholder. I opted for portability and an improved camera on the MP2 compared to my MP1 -Sold on to a grateful buyer, meeting their requirement.  I wasn't looking for a P4P neither was he as he wanted portability, decent flight capability and acceptable image quality for his needs..
And it’s your right as a consumer to buy whatever the heck you like.
That is why some people drive Ford trucks while some prefer Mini Cooper
But our preferences doesn’t change technical abilities of our drones.
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