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Interestings news today:-

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48380500

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I wondered when something like this will come into play. Will this be an app/FW update or hardware on future drones? I wonder if having this tech in place it will lead to the legal requirement in maintaining VLOS being lifted?
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A J Posted at 5-23 05:12
I wondered when something like this will come into play. Will this be an app/FW update or hardware on future drones? I wonder if having this tech in place it will lead to the legal requirement in maintaining VLOS being lifted?

I would think that the quadcopters will need automatic dependent surveillance-broadcast (ADS-B) receivers fitted. So new machines needed :-)
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I don't think it will ever remove the need for VLOS, as there could be many other things to collide with, from pylons to people.
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https://www.dji.com/uk/mavic-2-enterprise?site=brandsite&from=nav
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This kind of progress I'm all for
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Aardvark Posted at 5-23 05:25
I would think that the quadcopters will need automatic dependent surveillance-broadcast (ADS-B) receivers fitted. So new machines needed :-)
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Wishful thinking eh!

As for the new tech I am guessing that this will not be a legal requirement for the foreseeable future but more of a nice to have that will be fitted as standard on future releases rather than turning every consumer drone on the market into expensive, illegal paper weights. I only hope that the drones won't auto land when a plane is detected miles away and thousands of feet higher than the drone.
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Exactly the kind of thing we need!
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Yes, I read about it.
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Wonder if added hardware will be needed for this.
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Hi, thanks for sharing this information to our valued DJI Forum members. You may refer to our video tutorial below. Thank you for your support.

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DJI Tony Posted at 5-23 08:11
Hi, thanks for sharing this information to our valued DJI Forum members. You may refer to our video tutorial below. Thank you for your support.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IpXt7FBFBU

Looks like a great development
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A J Posted at 5-23 05:29
Wishful thinking eh!

As for the new tech I am guessing that this will not be a legal requirement for the foreseeable future but more of a nice to have that will be fitted as standard on future releases rather than turning every consumer drone on the market into expensive, illegal paper weights. I only hope that the drones won't auto land when a plane is detected miles away and thousands of feet higher than the drone.

If they force people to 'retro fit' compliant systems, I will see a class action lawsuit happening.  The unfortunate thing is if that happens, most recreational flyers will just bow out, which would lessen the effectiveness of recreational flyers and sUAS pilot support.
Other than that, this Air Sense can be a win for everyone, if implemented and maintained properly.  I know that most sUAS pilots, recreational and commercial, are responsible and don't wish to generate any negative heat.
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Neo Supreme Posted at 5-23 10:42
If they force people to 'retro fit' compliant systems, I will see a class action lawsuit happening.  The unfortunate thing is if that happens, most recreational flyers will just bow out, which would lessen the effectiveness of recreational flyers and sUAS pilot support.
Other than that, this Air Sense can be a win for everyone, if implemented and maintained properly.  I know that most sUAS pilots, recreational and commercial, are responsible and don't wish to generate any negative heat.

"If they force people to 'retro fit' compliant systems"

I don't imagine that would happen, most of the authorities are realistic enough and I would hope that if it is legislated that it would not be retrospective. If that were the case then it would stifle any competitors. I think DJI are just trying to comply as much as possible with what might be future expectations, to keep hold of their share of the market. I see it as a win win situation for all if manned aircraft are 100% compliant.
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ShermanFlyer Posted at 5-23 05:27
This kind of progress I'm all for
https://youtu.be/0IpXt7FBFBU

You Know Sherman, I have attended many open meetings and many seminars , and I have always walked away with a feeling from avaition associations that they are very happy and hopeful of the future of all drone users , hobbyists professionals etc, but around there always seems to be attitude that Air Avaition bodies are against drone flying, but the opposite is the truth .
Thanks for posting the video .
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From another article on "Air Sense"

DJI stands by the fact that existing data on drone safety is inaccurate. However, they understand they need to continually focus on research, development, education, and advocacy for solutions that will improve safety. They've outlined their intentions with the following 10 points:

1. DJI will install ADS-B receivers in all new drones above 250 grams.
2. DJI will develop a new automatic warning for drone pilots flying at extended distances.
3. DJI will establish an internal Safety Standards Group to meet regulatory and customer expectations.
4. Aviation industry groups must develop standards for reporting drone incidents.
5. All drone manufacturers should install geofencing and remote identification.
6. Governments must require remote identification.
7. Governments must require a user-friendly knowledge test for new drone pilots.
8. Governments must clearly designate sensitive restriction areas.
9. Local authorities must be allowed to respond to drone threats that are clear and serious.
10. Governments must increase enforcement of laws against unsafe drone operation.

These 10 steps are DJI's proactive plan for addressing the continual growth in the drone industry. It divides responsibility between the government, remote pilots, and the company to ensure drones continue to safely integrate into airspace.

Being DJI is already there...  #5 & #6 have self-serving interest of stomping down competitors.
#9 has potential to be bad for Drone pilots with overzealous actions coupled to Local authorities own policies or their interpretation of country policies.

#7 is a slippery slope as to what defines "user-friendly knowledge test".  Pressure by Special interests, Governments following other governments, Politicians, and Burueacrats.

Personally, would like to see our FAA change flying air boundaries.  Airplanes and helicopters minium flying height of 600-feet.  Commericial delivery drones 500 to 400 feet when flying.  Recreational drones max height of 350-feet.

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hallmark007 Posted at 5-23 13:16
You Know Sherman, I have attended many open meetings and many seminars , and I have always walked away with a feeling from avaition associations that they are very happy and hopeful of the future of all drone users , hobbyists professionals etc, but around there always seems to be attitude that Air Avaition bodies are against drone flying, but the opposite is the truth .
Thanks for posting the video .

Very true, I have signed up for the last few web seminars from the FAA. The latest one being today. The guy on there is very open and genuine in their approach to drone use in restricted airspace. We should be encouraged by this
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ShermanFlyer Posted at 5-23 14:19
Very true, I have signed up for the last few web seminars from the FAA. The latest one being today. The guy on there is very open and genuine in their approach to drone use in restricted airspace. We should be encouraged by this

I’m with you on that, and I know from listening to EASA their views are similar.
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And the DJI 'blog' as mentioned in the BBC report for those that may have missed it:-

https://www.dji.com/uk/newsroom/ ... new-consumer-drones
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