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For 99% of folks H.264 is plenty good enough imho. Also easier for your Hardware to handle in PP.
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I only use H.264 as my Mac isn't powerful enough to handle H.265
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*DM* Posted at 6-8 01:47
For 99% of folks H.264 is plenty good enough imho. Also easier for your Hardware to handle in PP.

I agree H.264 is plenty good enough.

However, I personally use H.265 with 40gb of RAM in FCP on IMac with no issues.
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AntDX316 Posted at 6-12 11:05
The only real benefit of HEVC H.265 is storage savings.  It Cripples performance.

"It Cripples performance."

Of what ?

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AntDX316 Posted at 6-12 11:05
The only real benefit of HEVC H.265 is storage savings.  It Cripples performance.

Doesn't the more modern codec double the video bit rate?
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Aardvark Posted at 6-12 11:53
"It Cripples performance."

Of what ?

Exactly! He is full of these silly unsubstantiated claims.
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From what i can make out from 2 sources ive looked at and that is, its better for use in live streaming due to the size and it has better contrast compared with h.264.
I am sure my old lappy couldnt work with h.256 for some reason, or it could be the one im on now, i cant remember, or, it could have been the version of AP i use :/
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AntDX316 Posted at 6-12 11:05
The only real benefit of HEVC H.265 is storage savings.  It Cripples performance.

Possibly time to upgrade your hardware or add more resources like memory.



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AntDX316 Posted at 6-13 00:51
If I'm on 100Mbps CBR at H.265 it's eq. to 200Mbps of H.264??

I believe so
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AntDX316 Posted at 6-13 03:03
I've just tested rendering at the max CBR 40Mbps on H.265.  It takes like 30+ minutes.  On CBR 81Mbps on H.264 it takes around 18.  On H.264 with CBR 240Mbps it takes around 10.  Also, I cannot clip in AE.  Only Premiere.

Surely CTU's are more effective than macro blocks. CTU can process as many as 64x64 blocks compared the H.264 is limited to 4x4 to 16x16 blocks. HEVC compresses information far more efficiently.
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AntDX316 Posted at 6-13 03:11
Sure, but at the cost of a longer rendering time and higher demand for recording power.

That's like saying 4K is worse than 1080p because it takes up more storage. Yes, H.265 needs far more processing power and takes longer but the result is superior.
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AntDX316 Posted at 6-13 03:14
The result is superior in terms of storage savings but in terms of quality..  I lost tree detail in H.265 vs H.264.  I think looking at things too technical can really overshadow the actual results.  This is why I like to look backwards from where it is rather than looking bottom to the top.  Of course, in all areas of life this is bad but in this area it's good.

Perhaps you should experiment a little more as H.265 is clearly a superior codec.
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AntDX316 Posted at 6-13 03:19
Perhaps you should really read what I'm trying to say.  H.265 is great in storage savings but it takes a lot of power to figure out where the savings can happen.

I have read what you have written hence my ability to reply directly to it. Your findings are flawed - simple as that.
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AntDX316 Posted at 6-13 03:21
How are my findings flawed though?  Do you even know how these things even work?

I think it is damn obvious I know a lot more about this entire hobby than you sunshine - not just codecs which you obviously don't have a clue about.
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AntDX316 Posted at 6-13 03:22
With all due respect, You are super ignorant about how codecs even work lmao.  All you do is snapshot pictures and upload vids but you probably have Zero idea on how to post-process.

You're just a kid with toys beyond your intellectual capacity - thats why you ask the most basic questions and have lost all credibility on this forum. Good bye.
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AntDX316 Posted at 6-13 03:30
Can we just look at the actual data rather than making who used to be right as emotionally deep as a religion to die for?

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AntDX316 Posted at 6-13 03:34
Being ignorant is what keeps mental peace even if you are Totally wrong.

I'm totally right
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AntDX316 Posted at 6-13 03:36
Having flaws remain is the usual result of when big things go wrong in life.  It's ok to be wrong in certain areas of life.

Glad you finally admit you're wrong
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AntDX316 Posted at 6-13 03:38
One day, AI will give everybody all the answers this way no one can blame anything but until then, arguments will continue to persist.

I'm not arguing - I'm telling you that H.265 produces superior quality footage. Everyone who knows anything about codecs will concur. Just because you don't know how to edit effectively and a 'tree' didn't look as nice does not qualify you to state otherwise lmfao
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AntDX316 Posted at 6-13 03:42
It produces superior quality footage because the people testing them have probably botched the footage.  I ran my Own test and find H.264 to be Superior over H.265 on the DJIs at least, on the Mavic 2 Zoom at least.. I haven't ran it on the Phantom 4 but I will when the weather permits and upload the vid ok? : )

Nothing has been botched.
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AntDX316 Posted at 6-13 03:44
Did you run the test?  People can botch w/e they want and make You believe it.

Yes, H.265 looks great when I used my old mans iMac - took forever and not something I will use frequently as my own computer can't handle it but the results of H.265 are clearly different. May also be due to my M2P recording in 10-bit rather than just 8-bit as your drones do when using H.265.
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AJC-W Posted at 6-13 03:41
I'm not arguing - I'm telling you that H.265 produces superior quality footage. Everyone who knows anything about codecs will concur. Just because you don't know how to edit effectively and a 'tree' didn't look as nice does not qualify you to state otherwise lmfao

Totally agree.

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