UweE Posted at 1-12 07:56
because this drone is not meant to have active tracking!
Go for the higher class of DJI drones.

That's not what I asked?!

I would like to know if the hardware/software limitations are the reason for not having the ActiveTrack feature.

TrevMonster Posted at 1-12 08:05
That's not what I asked?!

I would like to know if the hardware/software limitations are the reason for not having the ActiveTrack feature.

That IS the reason, why the Mini has no active tracking!
DJI will not kill their upper class drones, the Mini is a entry-level drone,
with limited capabilities.
Furthermore, there are no anti-collision sensors.

UweE Posted at 1-12 09:00
That IS the reason, why the Mini has no active tracking!
DJI will not kill their upper class drones, the Mini is a entry-level drone,
with limited capabilities.

agreed 100% for the anti-collision sensor.. even it has active track.. how can MM avoid obstacle with no sensor at all... maybe developer would give "IRON MAN vission software" to MM.. LOL..

cK-mini Posted at 1-12 10:55
agreed 100% for the anti-collision sensor.. even it has active track.. how can MM avoid obstacle with no sensor at all... maybe developer would give "IRON MAN vission software" to MM.. LOL..

The Spark has active track and only fronty OA sensors so it can still crash if it is strafing. I don't know if that is the best argument.

Sarge Lausage Posted at 1-13 10:49
The Spark has active track and only fronty OA sensors so it can still crash if it is strafing. I don't know if that is the best argument.

P4PV2.0 has side sensors but it doesn't really work too well.

Sarge Lausage Posted at 1-13 10:49
The Spark has active track and only fronty OA sensors so it can still crash if it is strafing. I don't know if that is the best argument.

So did the first drone to have AT The P4, I think this is the most logical answer for this question and although I know most people would fly fine with no OA it’s not the point here, all flying manned and unmanned use redundancy in how they apply safety and while the risk here is not great it still exists, I believe safety should never be watered down we all depend on it why do we need the risk.
Yes I know spark has it with only Front OA but that’s the standard.

With SDK release someone will do what DJI doesn’t want to do and we will have a third party developer giving us Active Track. Just a matter of time really.

Found a cheap ($199 NZ) drone at Warehouse with Active Tracking and a 20 min flight time.

Doubts it's all that good, but it's better than nothing.... and nothing is precisely what I've got from DJI, so there's that.

If DJI is relying on only it's high end models having any form of active tracking as the reason for people to buy them... Well, that's not a model that will see DJI in business for very long.

These times they are a changin'. Keep up, DJI!

Meteor? It should fall from the sky like a stone

At CES I asked one of the DJI employees about this and his response centered around two main points:
1) The MM lacks the OA sensors needed for tracking features due to the 249g weight objective
2) They want people to have an upgrade path to their more premium drones to get more features. MM is meant to be an entry into the brand and the lack of "advanced" features was intentionally omitted.

I don't necessarily agree with this but just stating what he told me.

Donsir_LTU Posted at 1-13 23:13
Meteor? It should fall from the sky like a stone

Probably... but it does the job of tracking better than the Mavic Mini does, however bad it is.

And this is the kind of truthful statement that DJI could really do with avoiding.

I dont care about active tracking at all. I just need camera control, minor GUI changes (fix the upper screen part, for a better view of telemetry info...) and maby a Sport mode when RTH initiated. This is my opinion

We won't see AT as the drone has no sensors for safety.

ICDroneSE Posted at 2019-11-3 10:00
This is also a good argument! I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people in your situation and adding ActiveTrack would boost popularity and sales!

Do you realize that you are saying that you would buy the Mini IF it had Active Track but because it doesn't you are thinking about the air? That is exactly the reason they won't do it. If it had activetrack you would buy a 500 eur drone and if it doesn't you buy a 900 eur one. Which one Dji prefers you to do?

I just purchased the Mavic Mini after trying out Hubsan Zino Pro.  It was $380 and had orbit mode, active track, even gps flight points as well as 4K video... I think I may send my mavic mini back and go back to the Zino because I loved being able to have my drone track me and my partner when we went hiking... so it’s sad it doesn’t have it when it would be very easy for you guys to put it in a firmware update.

Can’t edit my post on my iPad but the Zino was 380 and the mavic mini with way less features and only about 4 minute extra flight time was $499 for the pack I got.. hardly seems worth it... add active track or follow mode....

Very recently, I made a small video of my car https://forum.dji.com/thread-206559-1-1.html follow me mode for this type of videos is NECESSARY, I have commented it many times, but I have the Phantom 3 with this active mode and it does not have sensors either.
I understand that the Mini can be a drone of INITIATION (although I do not share that thought) but removing the difference in weight and power of engines, is the same as the Phantom 3.
It's just my thought, I hope to use the Mini very soon with Litchi, looking forward to the month of April eagerly.
Greetings to all

What a shame. I was 2 click from buying the mavic mini, but this was before I knew there is no active track .

Active track would be great, but not much possible..

FIRST step towards tracking would be to support it in Active shots.

MY IDEA : https://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=206944

Please support it, if you would like to see it.

Dji Say they wont support active track on the Mavic Mini because it dosnt have Collision avoidance but how come they added follow me and other intelligent flight modes to the PHANTOM 3 in a firmware update which also does not have Collision avoidance?

JM.REYES Posted at 1-15 04:59
Very recently, I made a small video of my car https://forum.dji.com/thread-206559-1-1.html follow me mode for this type of videos is NECESSARY, I have commented it many times, but I have the Phantom 3 with this active mode and it does not have sensors either.
I understand that the Mini can be a drone of INITIATION (although I do not share that thought) but removing the difference in weight and power of engines, is the same as the Phantom 3.
It's just my thought, I hope to use the Mini very soon with Litchi, looking forward to the month of April eagerly.

What happens in April? What's your source? Dji, please address this thread!

I have to say that although I have expressed my opinion to say AT will not come for mini , this thread has been very successful in putting members wishes forward and congrats to the OP for posting and causing good debate good job .

fans3f669b60 Posted at 1-15 13:06
Active track would be great, but not much possible..

FIRST step towards tracking would be to support it in Active shots.

Could you explain better what "your idea" is? QuickShots already track the subject, so what is it exactly you're asking?

I guess the feature request is actually "Follow Mode"

djiuser_BfkLntfsj6fK Posted at 1-17 16:58
What happens in April? What's your source? Dji, please address this thread!

The SDK will be released in April, I don't have the source right now but it was confirmed by a official DJI statement here at the forum and also on their Github page

djiuser_MC73sRRKG2xQ Posted at 1-14 12:55
Do you realize that you are saying that you would buy the Mini IF it had Active Track but because it doesn't you are thinking about the air? That is exactly the reason they won't do it. If it had activetrack you would buy a 500 eur drone and if it doesn't you buy a 900 eur one. Which one Dji prefers you to do?

Yeah DJI probably also thinks that taking out key features from Mini convinces people to buy more expensive drones like Air or daddy Mavics.
I think this is complete foolery, because what this kind of artificial nerfing actually does, is frustrate the customers and drive them to buy other products like cheaper/similarly priced but fully equipped with all the features Hubsan Zino or Fimi X8...

I actually was contemplating with this also before buying Mini, but I didn't want the big mavics or the Air with it's inferior transmission quality.
Now I'm thinking if I should return the mini just after few weeks...

And I get why we don't have 4K and such.
But the reasoning of missing OA is total bull. Mavic 1 didn't have OA on the sides it's usually travelling to while active tracking and it still had tracking.
DJI could easily add the active track behind a liability release menu and whoever wants toncan then use it on their own, but instead they rather lose customers to other brands.

MikeCH Posted at 1-17 23:58
The SDK will be released in April, I don't have the source right now but it was confirmed by a official DJI statement here at the forum and also on their Github page

+1 for active tracking.

Was about to jump on the DJI bandwagon and invest in the mini, but i think i'll be putting it on hold until active tracking comes to fruition.

Miixxa Posted at 1-18 00:00
Yeah DJI probably also thinks that taking out key features from Mini convinces people to buy more expensive drones like Air or daddy Mavics.
I think this is complete foolery, because what this kind of artificial nerfing actually does, is frustrate the customers and drive them to buy other products like cheaper/similarly priced but fully equipped with all the features Hubsan Zino or Fimi X8...

I completely agree. my plan was to buy the mini to get into drone flying....and if i liked it, i'll invest into the pro's. But having seen the mini doesn't have active tracking it defeats the purpose of what i wanted to use my DJI for....as a result i'll be holding off until they announce active tracking for the mini.

Regarding the obstacle detection, i'm not too fussed. i definitely prefer it to have OD, but its not a deal breaker for me, and i understand that adding those additional sensors do add weight to the unit.

It does track you doing quickshots. If you walk it follows you to keep you in the frame. It is possible. I think it will come in the future in the app. As others said, once the SDK is released apps like Litchi will feature it.

It's the same with the video settings like ISO, Shutter Speed etc. If you have video subtitles on it tells you what the automatic settings were for that so the drone does have control over them but the app has yet to feature them. Maybe soon hopefully... I want white balance at least.

The Mini definitely needs a few more extra features, Active Tracking included (also, please, white-balance settings or at least a lock!).

On some level I understand why DJI might have cut some features form this drone - why buy a bigger drone if the smaller, and cheaper one, will suffice? But the primary aspect, for a lot of people, will be the size and weight; the extra SOFTWARE feature will not change that and, as someone mentioned, the lack of these features won't make other DJI drones more appealing... just making using the Mini more frustrating. Not to mention the biggest reason to get another DJI drone is in the 2,7K limitation of the Mini. Anyone interested in making any kind of "pro" content will be getting the other drones anyway.

Yes, the Mini lacks OA. So? It can already hit something when doing the various quickshots if the user isn't careful.

MBender Posted at 1-20 05:13
The Mini definitely needs a few more extra features, Active Tracking included (also, please, white-balance settings or at least a lock!).

On some level I understand why DJI might have cut some features form this drone - why buy a bigger drone if the smaller, and cheaper one, will suffice? But the primary aspect, for a lot of people, will be the size and weight; the extra SOFTWARE feature will not change that and, as someone mentioned, the lack of these features won't make other DJI drones more appealing... just making using the Mini more frustrating. Not to mention the biggest reason to get another DJI drone is in the 2,7K limitation of the Mini. Anyone interested in making any kind of "pro" content will be getting the other drones anyway.

I totally agree with you.
I bought the Mini (my first Drone ever) especially because of its weight and size. I mean, these both things were my main criteria to get my first drone because i don't want to hook up a 1m² 50kg drone in my backpack while hiking or mountainbiking and I will not consider buying a "better" one, the money doesn't matter to me, so i really think it's a bitchy move from DJI to simply restrict software-functions which could easily implemented (because they're actually already kinda there right now: Quickshots).

I really hope they change their minds...

Christian U Posted at 2019-11-30 16:28
I think IF thats an business decision and not just not implemented DJI should revert it.
It makes no sense to have Active Track 3.0 on 99 Eur Osmo Mobile, but not on 399 Eur Mavic Mini.

99 osmo mobile can not fly

I bought a drone 3 years ago, it was a reasonably cheap one. I've been using it quite often and recently thought it was time for an upgrade.
So the search began and straight away the Mavic Mini came to my attention. Everything about it looks great and after watching a couple reviews on youtube I was basically sold.
Before hitting the buy button I was fortunate enough to find out that the Mavic Mini does not support the 'follow me' 'active track' which was an instant turn off. This lead me to do more research and found that there are many drones in the same price rang as the Mavic Mini that offer these features. I would say that DJI have shot themselves in the foot as I am sure that many other people will, like myself, choose a competing brand over DJI for this reason alone.
I obviously realise that DJI are current market leaders for commercial drones but if they make too many more 'mistakes' like that this one how long will they hold on to the top spot?

Message from a very disappointed potential DJI customer

UweE Posted at 1-12 09:00
That IS the reason, why the Mini has no active tracking!
DJI will not kill their upper class drones, the Mini is a entry-level drone,
with limited capabilities.

The Spark had active track and many more features, it was not a Mavic Air killer, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to expect the Spark functionality on DJI base drone after all it replaced the Spark.

deathsquad Posted at 1-19 18:52
It does track you doing quickshots. If you walk it follows you to keep you in the frame. It is possible. I think it will come in the future in the app. As others said, once the SDK is released apps like Litchi will feature it.

It's the same with the video settings like ISO, Shutter Speed etc. If you have video subtitles on it tells you what the automatic settings were for that so the drone does have control over them but the app has yet to feature them. Maybe soon hopefully... I want white balance at least.

Yeah, if you put a ND16 on the camera it holds 100 iso and just drops the shutter speed, which is encouraging.  Unfortunately while this forum is full of individuals says ‘it’s just a cheap drone’, we’ll never see DJI add the Spark features.

If active track can be put on the drone then it should be that simple

I think I read somewhere that DJI are hesitant to add ActiveTrack to the MM due to its lack of collision sensors. Poor excuse if you ask me.

That would not be a reason, quite the contrary ... it would be good for DJI. Without sensors > more crashes in AT mode > more repairs > more earnings for them ;-) But we will probably not find out the reason, as well as whether the wishes and inquiries are noticed.