Bad motionlapse Ronin S
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Tonight I tried to do a motion lapse with the ronin s just bought, I link you the result: https://drive.google.com/file/d/ ... R6/view?usp=sharing
I don't know if it's broken ...

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Looks bad, but there might be several reasons.

What camera + lens did you use?
How windy was it?
What was the Ronin standing on?

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Montfrooij Posted at 12-2 10:40
Looks bad, but there might be several reasons.

What camera + lens did you use?

I used Nikon D850 with Nikkor 50 mm 1.4
No windy
The ronin was on a small slope (it wasn't on the plain)
(The light that changes in each photo is because I was wrong that I didn't realize that there was automatic ISO)
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Signo11 Posted at 12-2 10:43
I used Nikon D850 with Nikkor 50 mm 1.4
No windy
The ronin was on a small slope (it wasn't on the plain)

Wat was holding the ronin?
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Montfrooij Posted at 12-2 11:25
Wat was holding the ronin?

It was leaning on the ground
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I also tried to make a video with the stabilizer in my hand but even here it's all shaky.. https://drive.google.com/open?id ... xPY0YQ2AyuKrHu3FoXv
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Signo11 Posted at 12-2 11:34
It was leaning on the ground

No tripod?
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Montfrooij Posted at 12-2 23:55
No tripod?

No, it was leaning on the descent with his little tripod
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Signo11 Posted at 12-3 00:08
No, it was leaning on the descent with his little tripod

That might be the reason.
You might want to try it on a decent tripod!

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Signo11 Posted at 12-2 12:38
I also tried to make a video with the stabilizer in my hand but even here it's all shaky.. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1DuKYFztXNo_joxPY0YQ2AyuKrHu3FoXv

How is the balance?
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Montfrooij Posted at 12-3 00:30
That might be the reason.
You might want to try it on a decent tripod!

But it was equally firm
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Montfrooij Posted at 12-3 00:30
How is the balance?

Excellent on all axes
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Signo11 Posted at 12-3 01:12
But it was equally firm

Ok.
All I know is that even the tiniest movement is magnified by the gimbal and translated to unwanted movements, so the sturdier the base, the better the output.
I already have this on my Osmo Mobile, so let alone how bad it is with a xx kg camera + lens on a much longer gimbal.
The other day I tried a motorized slider on a tripod with an extra tripod head on top of the motor with my DSLR attached to it.
I could not get a stable output with the extra tripod head since the movement from the slider made the head shake a little (but very visible in the output)
So with the long gimbal + camera it will have even more effect if there is a little bit of motion.
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Signo11 Posted at 12-3 01:14
Excellent on all axes

Because you did have issues with 'normal gimbal movements' also?
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Montfrooij Posted at 12-3 01:58
Because you did have issues with 'normal gimbal movements' also?

I don't know, as you can see the video trembles
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Signo11 Posted at 12-3 02:47
I don't know, as you can see the video trembles

Normally that would point to balancing issues.
At least, with Osmo Mobile.
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I am wondering does someone knows what might be the maximum exposure leight achieved on Ronin S/SC on perfect conditions, no wind and solid base?

My setup is Ronin SC + A7III + Tamron 28-75.
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Montfrooij Posted at 12-3 02:51
Normally that would point to balancing issues.
At least, with Osmo Mobile.

I don't know if it's a balancing problem, in the screenshot we see that there is no problem
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Signo11 Posted at 12-3 03:28
I don't know if it's a balancing problem, in the screenshot we see that there is no problem

Yeah, I see that.
I'm out of options now.




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Montfrooij Posted at 12-3 03:35
Yeah, I see that.
I'm out of options now.

At this point I will render it. I bought a gimbal to stabilize but it doesn't do its job..
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Signo11 Posted at 12-3 05:18
At this point I will render it. I bought a gimbal to stabilize but it doesn't do its job..

Did you consider the Ronin-S
That seems to have a higher payload.
I am considering it myself for my D750
And since I only shoot with primes, I am really wondering how it will stabilize my (non VR) lenses.
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I also tried the nikon z6 but it's not stable at all.. I think it's one of the worst gimbals in existence, it doesn't stabilize anything at all. I also tried to make slow movements up and down to try the Roll and the shot goes completely jerky because the stabilizer is not fluid..
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Signo11 Posted at 12-3 05:18
At this point I will render it. I bought a gimbal to stabilize but it doesn't do its job..

Sorry to read you are having issues.
It's a gimbal, it needs to be set up correctly and tweaked for specific usage before you can achieve the end results you desire. Both my Ronin S and SC work seriously well, but it took time and a little understanding.

Balancing is but just the first step, followed by auto/manually tuning the motors. Each mode needs to be set up for specific use. Speed, deadband and sensitivity need to be addressed accordingly. If you've set it up right it should be smooth as silk.

If you've set it up and it still isnt stabilized either its a defective unit that needs DJI assessment or replaced by DJI.

Good luck, dont give up on the Ronin it is a great gimbal.
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M2Wair Posted at 12-6 11:03
Sorry to read you are having issues.
It's a gimbal, it needs to be set up correctly and tweaked for specific usage before you can achieve the end results you desire. Both my Ronin S and SC work seriously well, but it took time and a little understanding.

After I do the balancing, it still trembles to me.. In addition, if I stand still while I make a video up or down, at the beginning and even at the end it isn't soft. Also setting the softness to the maximum
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Signo11 Posted at 12-8 11:21
After I do the balancing, it still trembles to me.. In addition, if I stand still while I make a video up or down, at the beginning and even at the end it isn't soft. Also setting the softness to the maximum

Try these settings....... smooth as silk for me

Pan.... speed low, deadband 4 and sensitivity 100

Tilt...speed med, deadband 4 and sensitivity 100

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M2Wair Posted at 12-8 13:10
Try these settings....... smooth as silk for me

Pan.... speed low, deadband 4 and sensitivity 100

At the beginning and at the end of the movement the video always goes in jerks
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As you can see, the video trembles.. and goes jerky
https://drive.google.com/open?id ... 5opngN_2yrGn97yz0Ad
https://drive.google.com/open?id ... pBlyYeSPitz8bO8iz2j
Handheld shakes less..
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Everything is pointing to either a balance issue or defective motor. I would refresh latest FW, rebalance as per manual step by step, re-set parameters and auto tune. If it still jitters it needs addressing by DJI.

Keep us informed
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M2Wair Posted at 12-10 03:26
Everything is pointing to either a balance issue or defective motor. I would refresh latest FW, rebalance as per manual step by step, re-set parameters and auto tune. If it still jitters it needs addressing by DJI.

Keep us informed

Forget about the firmware update that gives every time the error that the gimbal is not connected. A real dji suck
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99% of the update always tells me "gimbal not connected"
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Signo11 Posted at 12-10 07:12
99% of the update always tells me "gimbal not connected"

Have you used the DJI assistant for Ronin! That said, I cant any longer update any of my DJI gear or any cameras via IOS, I have to use a windows computer and always successfully. Ronin S, Ronin SC, all drones, osmo pocket, panasonic cameras, sony cameras.

If you are using ios try a windows device.
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I have only windows 10
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Signo11 Posted at 12-10 12:16
I have only windows 10

Download the DJI assistant for ronin and try again to refresh the FW. If you cant connect to the Ronin still open a support case and send it back for assessment. Doesn't take long.
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M2Wair Posted at 12-10 14:00
Download the DJI assistant for ronin and try again to refresh the FW. If you cant connect to the Ronin still open a support case and send it back for assessment. Doesn't take long.

Yes, I have already contacted the assistance, now I wait for the answer. It's incredible that even keeping it only still, the video trembles..
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