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UweE
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Hello there!

Although this is the official DJI-support-forum, it might be interesting for you
to know, that Litchi has launched a first beta of their app.

Tracking is possible, not perfect, but possible.
Waypoints and Orbit are not supported by the SDK and are not available.


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ABeardedItalian
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Ios beta?

Thanks for being one of the first showcasing litchi with the mini, been on the fence about picking it up and wanted to see some videos with the mini first.

Can you tell me, are you able to switch flight modes through the litchi app? (P, Sport, C)

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Hi, thank you so much for this video but I'll wait for the final version because the actually it's not great
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Thanks for sharing
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Woohooo!! So much for all the negative "will never come - buy another drone" people.
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Thanks for sharing
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Thanks so much for sharing.
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thE29 Posted at 8-6 06:42
Woohooo!! So much for all the negative "will never come - buy another drone" people.

No one said it would never come.  They said it would not come from DJI, but from a third-party app like Litchi after the SDK was released.
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djiuser_RIeSM3mAo5mf
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How to get this beta?
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Dirty Bird Posted at 8-6 06:47
No one said it would never come.  They said it would not come from DJI, but from a third-party app like Litchi after the SDK was released.

Indeed.

I think a lot of people fail to see the obvious.

DJI make money by selling drones, their app is basically free.

So their focus is on hardware and how to sell more of it. Giving out an SDK and allowing other people to innovate and create additional functionality is perfect for them.

If anyone drives more hardware sales by addition application functionality, then DJI wins both ways.

Three ways if you include, "sorry your warranty claim is denied because you were using a non DJI application."

DJI are very Chinese.   

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thE29 Posted at 8-6 06:42
Woohooo!! So much for all the negative "will never come - buy another drone" people.

I send you my address for a Mavic 2 zoom
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Dirty Bird Posted at 8-6 06:47
No one said it would never come.  They said it would not come from DJI, but from a third-party app like Litchi after the SDK was released.

Trust me, enough have said it in that way..  Even with the SDK.

example: https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... =208241&pid=2233068

And currently it looks like Active track costs around ~25€
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thE29 Posted at 8-6 09:59
Trust me, enough have said it in that way..  Even with the SDK.

example: https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... =208241&pid=2233068
I think you're setting yourself up for disappointment.   You'll get the ability for some basic tracking of slow moving, distinct targets, in mostly open areas, similar to what Litchi provides for the P3 series.  You are unlikely to get Skydio 2 "track my mountainbike as I ride through the forest" type performance.   Even the Skydio 2 leaves much to be desired!  The whole Activetrack experience still lacks the computational power to be truly effective & reliable.
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ABeardedItalian
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Android just got the beta, I'm tempted to pick it up.
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ABeardedItalian Posted at 8-6 10:52
Android just got the beta, I'm tempted to pick it up.
I would wait for the final version and especially the tests before taking litchi, Taking a beta involves a lot of risks..
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Good start at least
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UweE
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and here is my second test:

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Not brilliant but ok for B roll footage
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UweE Posted at 8-6 22:59
and here is my second test:

https://youtu.be/cvIyct1CvHg

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thE29 Posted at 8-6 09:59
Trust me, enough have said it in that way..  Even with the SDK.

example: https://forum.dji.com/forum.php? ... =208241&pid=2233068

I’m afraid that’s not Active Track as one would know it, you already have similar on the mini, and if dji had this AT on the mini this forum would be lit up with complaints, don’t forget you are paying 7% of the cost of your mini for this and it’s basically not very good. But enjoy the frustration....
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hallmark007 Posted at 8-7 01:16
I’m afraid that’s not Active Track as one would know it, you already have similar on the mini, and if dji had this AT on the mini this forum would be lit up with complaints, don’t forget you are paying 7% of the cost of your mini for this and it’s basically not very good. But enjoy the frustration....

You are absolutely right!
The limits of the Mini cripple the possbilities of all 3rd party apps.
There are some good things in Litchi, but as you said, everybody has to consider,
that one have to pay extra 25 USD...
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On my case,i've been electronic video games products developer and designer and i value the effort of the coding ,,, i wonder if the litchi developer would offer us two new quickshots modes not available on the mini but yes on the rest of DJI series,i talk about BOOMERANG and TINYPLANET , for me it would be enough to pay those 25$ , 25$ which i spend just opening the door of my home and buying a few beers and chips on a kiosk,about the follow me? well,, a GPS controller follow me is enough i think, according as Mini hasn't sensors and you always need to check the environment around.
What i don't consider right is the lazyness of the DJI fw/software developers,about our requests,they don't consider any of the requested features, and for me it's not a reason the comments from someones ,,something like "you bought this product like it was and you should be happy with it" .. like i told above , i designed some products,and i always made upgrades to offer the best features to my customers .... that's the point of the support on a good company,, i think that DJI is ,, but they are failing on this part, undervaluing MAVIC MINI customers,to profit MA2 ones.....this behaviour makes to think about MA2 customers will be undervalued when a new drone like MAVIC 3 would be released.
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UweE Posted at 8-7 03:54
You are absolutely right!
The limits of the Mini cripple the possbilities of all 3rd party apps.
There are some good things in Litchi, but as you said, everybody has to consider,

Litchi is a really good app and I have been using it for almost 5 years. I’m a little disappointed that waypoints are not possible for the mini , but if you’re intending to purchase other drones in the future litchi is a once off payment that allows you to operate with all or most dji drones.
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djiuser_RIeSM3mAo5mf Posted at 8-7 04:26
On my case,i've been electronic video games products developer and designer and i value the effort of the coding ,,, i wonder if the litchi developer would offer us two new quickshots modes not available on the mini but yes on the rest of DJI series,i talk about BOOMERANG and TINYPLANET , for me it would be enough to pay those 25$ , 25$ which i spend just opening the door of my home and buying a few beers and chips on a kiosk,about the follow me? well,, a GPS controller follow me is enough i think, according as Mini hasn't sensors and you always need to check the environment around.
What i don't consider right is the lazyness of the DJI fw/software developers,about our requests,they don't consider any of the requested features, and for me it's not a reason the comments from someones ,,something like "you bought this product like it was and you should be happy with it" .. like i told above , i designed some products,and i always made upgrades to offer the best features to my customers .... that's the point of the support on a good company,, i think that DJI is ,, but they are failing on this part, undervaluing MAVIC MINI customers,to profit MA2 ones.....this behaviour makes to think about MA2 customers will be undervalued when a new drone like MAVIC 3 would be released.

In someways you are right, but they’re always limits to everything in life, it’s difficult to imagine that buyers of the mini would expect to have access to all features of the M2P or even an Air2 .

So yes I agree simple stuff like having correct FW installed to allow all third parties to develop their products so users can extend the range of capabilities possible particularly with introductory drones like mini. It does seem strange that they have basically left out the necessary to allow third parties to set waypoint programs etc, so I agree there should be more consideration to allow for more scope from third parties.
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hallmark007 Posted at 8-7 05:13
Litchi is a really good app and I have been using it for almost 5 years. I’m a little disappointed that waypoints are not possible for the mini , but if you’re intending to purchase other drones in the future litchi is a once off payment that allows you to operate with all or most dji drones.

Waypoints are possible with Dronelink - I've just returned from a session trying them out and they seem to work well.
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vortex19 Posted at 8-7 06:54
Waypoints are possible with Dronelink - I've just returned from a session trying them out and they seem to work well.

Again they are very much watered down because of limitations of the mini. For instance with something like P4 pro or M2 waypoints works somewhat independent of RC ie if you embark on a mission and you go out of radio range your drone will continue to fly and finish the mission so there are very few limitations including distance or blocked out signal.

I understand and have had a look at drone link and again I’m not knocking their program, but somehow dji managed to dilute the chance of any third party implementing full waypoints. Glad you’re enjoying the new features.
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hallmark007 Posted at 8-7 07:22
Again they are very much watered down because of limitations of the mini. For instance with something like P4 pro or M2 waypoints works somewhat independent of RC ie if you embark on a mission and you go out of radio range your drone will continue to fly and finish the mission so there are very few limitations including distance or blocked out signal.

I understand and have had a look at drone link and again I’m not knocking their program, but somehow dji managed to dilute the chance of any third party implementing full waypoints. Glad you’re enjoying the new features.

I'm not allowed to fly my drone out of radio range as I can't then continue to monitor it, so I don't see that as a limitation.
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vortex19 Posted at 8-7 07:29
I'm not allowed to fly my drone out of radio range as I can't then continue to monitor it, so I don't see that as a limitation.

You misunderstand, if you set up a full mission go out and fly this mission and for any reason you lose RC signal you will then have a choice preflight to set to continue mission or abort and Rth . They’re many other features missing with drone link waypoints .
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UweE Posted at 8-6 22:59
and here is my second test:

https://youtu.be/cvIyct1CvHg

You would think if it can orbit while tracking it could easily orbit a fixed object or GPS coordinates.
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vortex19 Posted at 8-7 07:29
I'm not allowed to fly my drone out of radio range as I can't then continue to monitor it, so I don't see that as a limitation.
That is a self-imposed limitation you've chosen to accept.  With a persistent RC connection limit, you can't even spiral a building a couple hundred feet away.  It's like submitting to a mandatory mask mandate when it states right on the package the product offers no protection against a virus.  
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Any news about RAW (DNG) support for Mavic Mini in Litchie?
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Ewa i Piotr Posted at 8-7 09:49
Any news about RAW (DNG) support for Mavic Mini in Litchie?

Not possible! as long as DJI will not open this in
the firmware, nobody can do something
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Hi. Thank you for creating this informative post. Just friendly reminder that DJI does not recommend using any third party application. This application may work but we cannot guarantee the stability and comparability during flight. Thank you and safe flying.
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In queue to beta test the app. Considering it gets 3.9 out of 5 stars I have no big expectations.

I am just looking to try something else, report back on the quality (which I am quite accustomed to do) and move on. Surely I'll tell them 25 EUR asking price is a folly for Mavic Mini considering you can't even exploit orbits or waypoints.

Since it's so easy to spawn apps they should come out with a dedicated app targeting Mavic Mini users with a reduced asking price.
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m80116 Posted at 8-8 06:53
In queue to beta test the app. Considering it gets 3.9 out of 5 stars I have no big expectations.

I am just looking to try something else, report back on the quality (which I am quite accustomed to do) and move on. Surely I'll tell them 25 EUR asking price is a folly for Mavic Mini considering you can't even exploit orbits or waypoints.

With regards to the possibly reducing the price, that would only be a reasonable request if the app offered a reduced feature set for the Mini - Litchi currently does but Dronelink seems to offer the same feature set for all drones.
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Yes... they should close the workarounds to avoid unsolicited users buying the Mavic Mini app to control other drones or let MM owners use a full feature set the might want to hold up for the full scale version of their app, their business not mine.

The asking price is still ludicrously ridiculous for a piece of software capitalizing on an SDK... wondering how much time it would take to develop or how many lines of code it might be. I've seen genuine licenses of Windows sold for that price... we could argue all we want how much crap Windows is these days but it's still a hands down win for the Microsoft software. Using that scale o copy of Windows could probably cost in excess of 10.000 EUR or more...
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If litchi can do it I'm sure DJI can do it better.
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Hmm. Thank you for that. I have a Mini which I fly with the DJI Fly App.  I have Litchi for my other drones. I'm not convinced yet that Litchi will revolutionise the capabilities of the mini. Thanks for the share.
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Dirty Bird Posted at 8-7 09:12
That is a self-imposed limitation you've chosen to accept.  With a persistent RC connection limit, you can't even spiral a building a couple hundred feet away.  It's like submitting to a mandatory mask mandate when it states right on the package the product offers no protection against a virus.[Image]

That's a good example, both those rules are there to protect others not yourself.
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