Update on Mode 4 Stick Mode for new FPV drone?
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MotB78
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Hello DJI FPV Support and community!

Can you please give a short status about the implementation of Mode4 for the DJI FPV drone?

I am Mode4 pilot and would be very thankfull to be able to fly my DJI FPV drone in Mode4 in manual mode.

So dissapointed, that I did not recognize that before I bought it....

Thanks and BR


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2021-4-5
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DAFlys
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Mode 4 was never promised for this drone.
2021-4-5
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Hi, MotB78. Thanks for reaching out and posting your concern. Currently, this function is unavailable but we'll forward this feedback to our developers. After the evaluation of the engineers, significant suggestions or requests will be implemented via the firmware update, app update, etc. For any updates, please stay tuned to the latest news on our DJI official website at www.dji.com or by checking the Release Notes specific for the DJI FPV.
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If you are willing to open up the transmitter, you could swap the controls by swapping wires. The gimbal wires are connect with plugs. If you pull these pins and swap them around, you could have a mode 4 transmitter.

In case you haven't seen it, I posted photos of the inside of the controller in this thread. There's a link to my Hackaday IO page with additional photos.

If you decide to go this route, I'd be happy to help identify which wires need to swapped.
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Duane Degn Posted at 4-5 08:28
If you are willing to open up the transmitter, you could swap the controls by swapping wires. The gimbal wires are connect with plugs. If you pull these pins and swap them around, you could have a mode 4 transmitter.

In case you haven't seen it, I posted photos of the inside of the controller in this thread. There's a link to my Hackaday IO page with additional photos.

Hi Duane

that's what I did yesterday. I changed the wires for roll and yaw and have now Mode4 in the Mode2 settings. I did a testflight and the  controller still works. Also on Simulator (Liftoff) no problems.

I got a warning during flight, that there is an error on flightsticks, but I did not feel anything strange. Perhaps I have to recalibrate the controller in goggle settings?

Do you have seen this error / warning also?

Thanks

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MotB78 Posted at 4-6 01:44
Hi Duane

that's what I did yesterday. I changed the wires for roll and yaw and have now Mode4 in the Mode2 settings. I did a testflight and the  controller still works. Also on Simulator (Liftoff) no problems.

Recalibrate could help
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DJI Gamora Posted at 4-5 03:03
Hi, MotB78. Thanks for reaching out and posting your concern. Currently, this function is unavailable but we'll forward this feedback to our developers. After the evaluation of the engineers, significant suggestions or requests will be implemented via the firmware update, app update, etc. For any updates, please stay tuned to the latest news on our DJI official website at www.dji.com or by checking the Release Notes specific for the DJI FPV.

It is incomprehensible why mode 4 does not exist. And it should be easy to make this possible.
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MotB78 Posted at 4-6 01:44
Hi Duane

that's what I did yesterday. I changed the wires for roll and yaw and have now Mode4 in the Mode2 settings. I did a testflight and the  controller still works. Also on Simulator (Liftoff) no problems.

"I got a warning during flight, that there is an error on flightsticks"

The "F2" screw presses a button when screwed all the way in. The firmware thinks you screwed in the "F2" screw on the wrong axis. From what I've read, I think the warning can be safely ignored.

It's certainly possible to perform even more drastic surgery on the controller to disable the button but I don't recommend this. The circuit requiring modification is pretty hard to access.

The least evasive hack would be to find a way to depress the button on the original throttle axis without needing to modify the spring tension.
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Avronaut Posted at 4-6 03:03
Recalibrate could help

Yes, I can confirm. I did some testflights today and did not get a warning again.
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MotB78 Posted at 4-6 01:44
Hi Duane

that's what I did yesterday. I changed the wires for roll and yaw and have now Mode4 in the Mode2 settings. I did a testflight and the  controller still works. Also on Simulator (Liftoff) no problems.

Hallo...

Bin auch Mode 4 Flieger...Würde deinen Umbau gern machen. Könntest du mir ein Bild senden von innen? Werden die Stecker oder einzelne Kabel getauscht?

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I also fly Mode 4. It is ridiculous that we could set Mode 4 in all DJI Drones going back to original Phantoms but not on this latest, otherwise excellent Drone. Come on DJI please fix this in a software update and stop forcing us to hack your hardware to do it! I cannot get rid of 10 years of muscle memory to relearn how to fly!
2021-10-28
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GadgetBen
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I found a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOJG3w88FVk
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JustDrewit
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It's hard to fathom why this seemingly simple and straightforward addition is being denied... There's a significant chunk of the population that you're shafting here DJI.

Can we please get a nod to this?
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Are there any news on that? This could easy be fixes with a software update.
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C.Calabrese
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I've started a petition for them to change this. I encourage everyone on this thread to sign and spread this. It's a simple software fix to allow this functionality, and ridiculous they're withholding this from their paying customers. A petition worked for Cine Mode (allegedly), let's force them to pay attention to a large subset of their customers.

https://chng.it/GZQR55tdvV
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C.Calabrese Posted at 9-21 22:51
I've started a petition for them to change this. I encourage everyone on this thread to sign and spread this. It's a simple software fix to allow this functionality, and ridiculous they're withholding this from their paying customers. A petition worked for Cine Mode (allegedly), let's force them to pay attention to a large subset of their customers.

https://chng.it/GZQR55tdvV

Cool thing, I signed immediately
That can not be that there is no mode 4....
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DJI Gamora Posted at 2021-4-5 03:03
Hi, MotB78. Thanks for reaching out and posting your concern. Currently, this function is unavailable but we'll forward this feedback to our developers. After the evaluation of the engineers, significant suggestions or requests will be implemented via the firmware update, app update, etc. For any updates, please stay tuned to the latest news on our DJI official website at www.dji.com or by checking the Release Notes specific for the DJI FPV.

What about mode 4, will this come in the next update?
2022-9-25
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Dachte auch, das Mode 4 kein Problem ist. Ich fliege den Mavic2pro mit Smart Controller. Hier konnte ich benutzerdefiniert Mode 4 einrichten.
Jetzt die Avata und FPV Drohnenset gekauft und wollte mich da herantasten. Geflogen habe ich beides mit Motion Controller. Jetzt will ich mit der Fernbedienung anfangen und richtig fliegen lernen und dann sowas. Mode 4 geht nicht. Nicht aufgepasst beim Kauf. Ich bin echt sauer!  Hier in dem Tread tut sich ja schon fast 1 Jahr nichts mehr. DJI interessiert es wohl nicht.
Ich baue in Zukunft meine Drohnen selbst.

Jürgen
2022-10-28
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Any updates on this?
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DAFlys Posted at 2021-4-5 02:41
Mode 4 was never promised for this drone.
So was muss nicht versprochen werden, die 4 Mods sind normaler Standart bei guten Herstellern.
Weisst den Kunden mit dicker Überschrift darauf hin und ich hätte die FpV und Avata nie gekauft.
Aber das kümmert euch nicht. Hauptsache verkauft und Kohle ist im Sack.
Noch nicht einmal nachträglich wird sich Mühe gemacht ein -dusseliges- Update dafür zu machen.
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djiuser_L2hQrwmcX2SU Posted at 6-20 09:15
So was muss nicht versprochen werden, die 4 Mods sind normaler Standart bei guten Herstellern.
Weisst den Kunden mit dicker Überschrift darauf hin und ich hätte die FpV und Avata nie gekauft.
Aber das kümmert euch nicht. Hauptsache verkauft und Kohle ist im Sack.

This is the problem when people make assumptions.
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Is there seriously no fix for this still?
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I hope that with the new Remote Control 3 the conversion to mode 4 is also possible.
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R.Steudle Posted at 4-11 22:49
I hope that with the new Remote Control 3 the conversion to mode 4 is also possible.

Hello there. Thank you for reaching out. We will coordinate this to our relevant team for further clarification. We will keep you posted.
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R.Steudle Posted at 4-11 22:49
I hope that with the new Remote Control 3 the conversion to mode 4 is also possible.

Thank you for patiently waiting. Unfortunately, this feature is not supported but we'll forward this feedback to our developers. After the evaluation of the engineers, significant suggestions or requests will be implemented via the firmware update, app update, etc. For any updates, please stay tuned to the latest news on our DJI official website at www.dji.com. Thank you for your valued support.
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Como conectar el simulador, con gafas y mando avata 2? No consigo enlazarlo.



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DJI Gamora Posted at 2021-4-5 03:03
Hi, MotB78. Thanks for reaching out and posting your concern. Currently, this function is unavailable but we'll forward this feedback to our developers. After the evaluation of the engineers, significant suggestions or requests will be implemented via the firmware update, app update, etc. For any updates, please stay tuned to the latest news on our DJI official website at www.dji.com or by checking the Release Notes specific for the DJI FPV.

Thank you for forwarding, it is now April 2024, the 3rd FPV Product is on the Market and still nobody cares about Mode 4, exellent work.
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DJI Paladin Posted at 4-18 00:08
Thank you for patiently waiting. Unfortunately, this feature is not supported but we'll forward this feedback to our developers. After the evaluation of the engineers, significant suggestions or requests will be implemented via the firmware update, app update, etc. For any updates, please stay tuned to the latest news on our DJI official website at www.dji.com. Thank you for your valued support.

Hello there. Thank you for reaching out. We will coordinate this to our relevant team for further clarification. We will keep you posted.
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Chiming in - I bought an Avata2 without realizing that Mode 4 is not supported. Pretty PLEASE get this addressed, it has been YEARS. If nothing else, I need to rewire my controller in order for me to be able to fly in full manual mode.

I have to say that this is completely ridiculous that this easy of a fix can't be implemented in this amount of time.
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atgertgmail.com Posted at 4-23 03:11
Hello there. Thank you for reaching out. We will coordinate this to our relevant team for further clarification. We will keep you posted.

Hi there. While we strive to accommodate all requests, some may take time to process. Our team carefully evaluates each one to ensure the best possible outcome. Additionally, we consider the hardware and software capabilities. This ensures that any changes or features we implement align with the device's capabilities. Rest assured, we're committed to providing the best experience for our users. Thank you for understanding.
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atgertgmail.com Posted at 4-23 03:10
Thank you for forwarding, it is now April 2024, the 3rd FPV Product is on the Market and still nobody cares about Mode 4, exellent work.

We're sorry for the inconvenience, atgertgmail.com. Rest assured that all of your suggestions are being forwarded to our relevant team, however, we can't guarantee that everything will be implemented as it depends on their evaluation. Thank you for your kind understanding.
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You know what, let's fix this. I'm modifying a Controller 3 below.

Open the controller and see that when going from controller 2 to 3 we've lost quite a bit of heat generating chips and one battery. There is one screw that has hot glue on top of it, I guess to detect tampering. This is different from 2.


Take a good look around and see that the hall sensor wires are actually quite long, let's take one off and see what we can do:


Oh man, "how convenient", we can just swap the hall sensors between the sticks:


Then we can reassemble:


You will get a stick error on your next boot up, but a calibration will fix that and WHOA WE HAVE A MODE4 AVAILABLE.

I'm amazed how cheap this thing is inside considering the price. I get quite a bit more mileage with my TX16S.
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SecondaryWorks Posted at 4-25 11:38
You know what, let's fix this. I'm modifying a Controller 3 below.

Open the controller and see that when going from controller 2 to 3 we've lost quite a bit of heat generating chips and one battery. There is one screw that has hot glue on top of it, I guess to detect tampering. This is different from 2.

Hi there,

This is currently holding me back on my purchase of Avata 2. Is there any videos anywhere that show how to do this step by step? How has your experience been so far with it? Thanks
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I think I watched a video of a person taking Controller2 apart and then used that as a baseline for disassembling Controller3. Other than getting the case open without destroying it the above photos detail the major steps in getting the sensors swapped between sides. Do be careful with routing the cables so that they do not get chafed off by using the joysticks.

In case you haven't found it, I have few more details available on a dedicated thread here https://forum.dji.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=311529

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same problem here
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DAFlys Posted at 2021-4-5 02:41
Mode 4 was never promised for this drone.

What a bad excuse for a bad service
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Wilhe Posted at 12-4 02:06
What a bad excuse for a bad service

Should I complain then about my car, as it doesn't fly.  
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DAFlys Posted at 12-4 02:23
Should I complain then about my car, as it doesn't fly.

That's a terrible analogy.  Adding mode 4 is a simple software update and could be coded, compiled, and tested in a matter of minutes.  I don't get why you need to troll people who ask for a feature that would allow them to fly DJI's FPV drones.
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The Duck Posted at 12-4 10:27
That's a terrible analogy.  Adding mode 4 is a simple software update and could be coded, compiled, and tested in a matter of minutes.  I don't get why you need to troll people who ask for a feature that would allow them to fly DJI's FPV drones.

If you think thats a job that would take a few minutes you have no idea about software development and testing.      It would take longer than that to update all the documentation,  in I dread to think how many languages.
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DAFlys Posted at 12-4 22:42
If you think thats a job that would take a few minutes you have no idea about software development and testing.      It would take longer than that to update all the documentation,  in I dread to think how many languages.

It´s copy and paste from all other Dji Drones
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