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This Will Make You THINK TWICE About Flying The DJI Mini 2 FAR AWAY
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This Will Make You THINK TWICE About Flying The DJI Mini 2 FAR AWAY



11-13 01:50
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Co. Antrim coast?
11-13 03:12
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Another interesting video you found DA.  

VLOS is a very contentious subject as there are so many variables.  I fly all my drones with a strobe light to make it easier for me to maintain VLOS.  However, I always try to get close to what I desire to film and then launch.  I think 250m is about my VLOS limit.
11-13 04:41
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I read in the official articles that 500m is the max we can go in the UK regardless of whether you can see it, its a blanket 500m max
11-13 04:44
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Bashy Posted at 11-13 04:44
I read in the official articles that 500m is the max we can go in the UK regardless of whether you can see it, its a blanket 500m max

I’ve never seen 500m quoted in the EASA rules, pretty sure they say not beyond VLOS.
11-13 07:19
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That was a long video for his statement.
11-13 11:01
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DAFlys Posted at 11-13 07:19
I’ve never seen 500m quoted in the EASA rules, pretty sure they say not beyond VLOS.

CAP722, page 36 - 2.1.1 Visual line of sight operations (VLOS) paragraph 2, hope that helps
11-13 17:00
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Montfrooij Posted at 11-13 11:01
That was a long video for his statement.

About 9 minutes longer than necessary to get his minimal message across.
11-13 17:25
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Bashy Posted at 11-13 17:00
CAP722, page 36 - 2.1.1 Visual line of sight operations (VLOS) paragraph 2, hope that helps

That’s a terribly bit of wording. Basically says could be more than 500m or could be less than depending on UA size.
11-13 21:23
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DAFlys Posted at 11-13 21:23
That’s a terribly bit of wording. Basically says could be more than 500m or could be less than depending on UA size.

Operations at a greater distance from the remote pilot may be permitted if an acceptable safety case is submitted

Thats only for those with the commercial certs not the likes of hobbyists, there's no way the CAA would grant us permissions to fly over 500m if we have a larger drone, they would just file it under poop lol
11-13 23:28
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Bashy Posted at 11-13 23:28
Operations at a greater distance from the remote pilot may be permitted if an acceptable safety case is submitted

Thats only for those with the commercial certs not the likes of hobbyists, there's no way the CAA would grant us permissions to fly over 500m if we have a larger drone, they would just file it under poop lol

I agree no chance.  But still badly worded. There’s no way you’re going to see any current Mavic any way near 500m.  And that’s probably true for all consumer based drones.
11-13 23:56
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Bashy Posted at 11-13 23:28
Operations at a greater distance from the remote pilot may be permitted if an acceptable safety case is submitted

Thats only for those with the commercial certs not the likes of hobbyists, there's no way the CAA would grant us permissions to fly over 500m if we have a larger drone, they would just file it under poop lol

In fact they really are trying to hurt the hobby.  Most drones now need a 300m wide corridor away from anything to be able to fly that’s really limiting in these parts.
11-13 23:57
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DowntownRDB Posted at 11-13 04:41
Another interesting video you found DA.  

VLOS is a very contentious subject as there are so many variables.  I fly all my drones with a strobe light to make it easier for me to maintain VLOS.  However, I always try to get close to what I desire to film and then launch.  I think 250m is about my VLOS limit.

We can't do that here,   you cant rely on another device to make it easier to see like a strobe or telescope.   Partly because things around your drone without that strobe wont be visible either.
11-14 00:12
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Montfrooij Posted at 11-13 11:01
That was a long video for his statement.

He does prattle on a bit.
11-14 00:13
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Good finding DAFlys,

it's a reality. I use my drones for landscape photography, so being not that far away. But I wonder how people wanting to fly kilometres away maintain VLOS?
11-14 00:18
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JohnDG Posted at 11-14 00:18
Good finding DAFlys,

it's a reality. I use my drones for landscape photography, so being not that far away. But I wonder how people wanting to fly kilometres away maintain VLOS?

Thats the thing,  at about 300 meters its gone as soon as you look away to the controller and back to the sky.   Most people forget that.
11-14 00:21
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DAFlys Posted at 11-14 00:13
He does prattle on a bit.

Some will like it this way
11-14 01:13
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Labroides Posted at 11-13 17:25
About 9 minutes longer than necessary to get his minimal message across.

Unfortunately youtube believes this is an interesting video....
So I vote with my action (not watching)
11-14 01:25
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Montfrooij Posted at 11-14 01:13
Some will like it this way

Anf a few have complained its too long.
11-14 01:37
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DAFlys Posted at 11-14 01:37
Anf a few have complained its too long.

Count me in.
11-14 01:38
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I coud have guessed that.
11-14 01:41
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DAFlys Posted at 11-14 01:41
I coud have guessed that.

11-14 01:45
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Montfrooij Posted at 11-13 11:01
That was a long video for his statement.

That's typical for YouTube videos. A normal "instruction" video consist of:
1. A lengthy brag about the author where nothing of importance skines out. Of course the part where he asks the viewer to subscribe is there for 5 minutes.
2. An even more lengthy "instruction" part where the author repeats everything that is self-evident 5 times and the swiftly pass over the only part most viewers are interested in.
3. An epilog where he repeats his request for subscriptions!

All this in most videos could have been summarized in a few lines of text. Unfortunately it seems that most people nowadays cannot read so they must watch these types of videos. One of the admins here even asked a member to submit a video of a LED that didn't blink! Incredible!
11-14 03:01
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Johnny_J Posted at 11-14 03:01
That's typical for YouTube videos. A normal "instruction" video consist of:
1. A lengthy brag about the author where nothing of importance skines out. Of course the part where he asks the viewer to subscribe is there for 5 minutes.
2. An even more lengthy "instruction" part where the author repeats everything that is self-evident 5 times and the swiftly pass over the only part most viewers are interested in.

It is the lazy brains and mentality of many viewers I guess that want to be entertained instead of figure out things themselves.
And unfortunately youtube pushes this kind of content, as it generates a lot of viewing minutes.
So I won't be watching and hope I make a small difference
11-14 03:27
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Montfrooij Posted at 11-14 03:27
It is the lazy brains and mentality of many viewers I guess that want to be entertained instead of figure out things themselves.
And unfortunately youtube pushes this kind of content, as it generates a lot of viewing minutes.
So I won't be watching and hope I make a small difference

Precisely! I never watch stupid YouTube "instruction" videos. I can watch some of the good materials here filmed from a drone but never from someone having an iPhone (hence proven a non-tech) and trying to "instruct" technical stuff ...
11-14 03:34
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DAFlys Posted at 11-14 00:12
We can't do that here,   you cant rely on another device to make it easier to see like a strobe or telescope.   Partly because things around your drone without that strobe wont be visible either.

Same here.  However, like I mentioned I never fly that far away and could still see it without a strobe.  Guess the strobe is just a bit of a confidence booster.  
11-14 04:04
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DowntownRDB Posted at 11-14 04:04
Same here.  However, like I mentioned I never fly that far away and could still see it without a strobe.  Guess the strobe is just a bit of a confidence booster.

11-14 04:05
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Johnny_J Posted at 11-14 03:34
Precisely! I never watch stupid YouTube "instruction" videos. I can watch some of the good materials here filmed from a drone but never from someone having an iPhone (hence proven a non-tech) and trying to "instruct" technical stuff ...

I let YT know I'm not interested in my feed, so that helps for me.
11-14 04:08
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Johnny_J Posted at 11-14 03:01
That's typical for YouTube videos. A normal "instruction" video consist of:
1. A lengthy brag about the author where nothing of importance skines out. Of course the part where he asks the viewer to subscribe is there for 5 minutes.
2. An even more lengthy "instruction" part where the author repeats everything that is self-evident 5 times and the swiftly pass over the only part most viewers are interested in.

That is why it is covinient to use the progress slider. towarts the interesting part or to end the video when it get's boring.

Lucky we have a choice to do so.
11-15 00:06
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DAFlys Posted at 11-14 00:13
He does prattle on a bit.

Maybe he kissed the Blarney stone, although he's somewhat lacking in 'eloquence and persuasiveness'. I shouldn't really complain as I'm in Northern Ireland as well.

I couldn't be bothered watching it as I find his videos repetitive, repetitive, repetitive, in order to stretch them out. I am curious though. Did he say it was a 'secret', like his 'secret settings' video?
11-15 10:55
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Johnny_J Posted at 11-14 03:34
Precisely! I never watch stupid YouTube "instruction" videos. I can watch some of the good materials here filmed from a drone but never from someone having an iPhone (hence proven a non-tech) and trying to "instruct" technical stuff ...

You know techies are issued iPhones because they are very secure.
11-15 11:02
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Only thing this made me think twice about is ever watching another of his videos!
11-15 12:19
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He needs some blooming  Vicks Sinex, i love the Irish accent more so in the ladies mind lol but damn, his voice grips my poop
11-15 19:01
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Here is where I disagree with the narrator on one point. He says that even if you can spot it at say 500 meters away, there is no way to fly it back by visual only. There is a way, but it is only a 50% chance of success. If I could see the Mini dot in the sky, I would fly forward and slowly yaw it until it appeared stationary in the sky. It is then pointed either toward you or away, then just fly straight ahead. Remember I said it was 50% reliable ;-)
11-15 20:16
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GaryDoug Posted at 11-15 20:16
Here is where I disagree with the narrator on one point. He says that even if you can spot it at say 500 meters away, there is no way to fly it back by visual only. There is a way, but it is only a 50% chance of success. If I could see the Mini dot in the sky, I would fly forward and slowly yaw it until it appeared stationary in the sky. It is then pointed either toward you or away, then just fly straight ahead. Remember I said it was 50% reliable ;-)

Gary that would absolutely work.   
11-16 00:33
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GaryDoug Posted at 11-15 20:16
Here is where I disagree with the narrator on one point. He says that even if you can spot it at say 500 meters away, there is no way to fly it back by visual only. There is a way, but it is only a 50% chance of success. If I could see the Mini dot in the sky, I would fly forward and slowly yaw it until it appeared stationary in the sky. It is then pointed either toward you or away, then just fly straight ahead. Remember I said it was 50% reliable ;-)

I would fly forward and slowly yaw it until it moved left or right. Then I yaw it towards me and fly home.
11-16 03:20
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I'm in Northern Ireland too, a retired helicopter pilot and also a fairly inexperienced, but impressed owner of a DJI Mini 2.

If this chap didn't come across as being just so self-righteous, then I probably wouldn't say "Where's your OperatorID label, buddy?"

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11-16 08:25
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cloudburst Posted at 11-16 08:25
I'm in Northern Ireland too, a retired helicopter pilot and also a fairly inexperienced, but impressed owner of a DJI Mini 2.

If this chap didn't come across as being just so self-righteous, then I probably wouldn't say "Where's your OperatorID label, buddy?"

You do know they dont need to be visible on the outside of the AC? You can place it anywhere thats tools are not required to find it,   so under the battery on the M2P or on the batter cover on a Mini2 are both very acceptable.
11-16 10:04
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Unless ya in the UK, then it needs to be visible

https://register-drones.caa.co.uk/labelling-drones

What I did was make a tiny lable with the background close to the color of the AC, then a slith of cello tape to keep it secure
11-16 10:14
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Bashy Posted at 11-16 10:14
Unless ya in the UK, then it needs to be visible

https://register-drones.caa.co.uk/labelling-drones

The rule says

How to label your drone or model aircraft

Your operator ID must be:

visible from the outside, or within a compartment that can easily be accessed without using a tool
clear and in block capitals taller than 3mm

secure and safe from damage
on the main body of the aircraft
11-16 10:20
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