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Knaseren1974
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i just bought a action 3 and took a picture with the camera and my oneplus 8 phone to compare and im disapointed. same settings 4k 5600k no FOV and action 3 is way worse than my 4 year old phone camera. i uploaded a cropped area of the two pictures cause they were too large in filesize.


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stand the same distance and do not crop a photo. and show
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Wow, that is quite the difference.  I passed on the OA3 due to the errors being reported at release and went with the GoPro 11.  Kind of glad I did now.
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Is this a crop from the centre of the image? Then your camera definitely is defective. I have never seen any footage that blurred.
If it is a crop from a corner, that is to be expected, as the osmo uses a 12mm fisheye lens that is software corrected and the edges are blown up to rectify the angles, when FOV is set to standard with compensation.

Also, don't compare smartphone cameras with action cameras. Completely different hardware setup, processing power and usecase. Any decent smartphone produces better footage as long as you don't move. ;)
My 4 years old Mi 9T Pro blows away every action cam I know with it's 48 mpxl sensor and autofocus. Even it's UW-Lens is better corrected. But I don't dare to mount it for action shots or take it underwater. And when it get's rough, its stabilization is not nearly on par with that of a decent action cam.
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Fishycomics Posted at 3-4 04:50
stand the same distance and do not crop a photo. and show

this is same distance but osmo makes 3000*4000 pixel images and oneplus makes 3000*1800 even when i have selected 16:9
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i have uploaded the 2 images on a free image hosting site
https://ibb.co/qWw2sPY
https://ibb.co/dJK7gQm
these images will be deleted after 6 months from now.
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Knaseren1974 Posted at 3-4 04:58
i have uploaded the 2 images on a free image hosting site
https://ibb.co/qWw2sPY
https://ibb.co/dJK7gQm

Open a TIcket with DJI or return it, if possible. That one looks bad.
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Video-Frame or Photo? I encountered some image processing problems with my Action 3, but not nearly the same blurring as your image...
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i read that getting a dji replacement is a very difficult process where dji try everything to refuse replacement .. so i will get a replacement from the shop i bought it from instead or money refunded.
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Knaseren1974 Posted at 3-4 05:05
i read that getting a dji replacement is a very difficult process where dji try everything to refuse replacement .. so i will get a replacement from the shop i bought it from instead or money refunded.

It mostly takes time and you have to convince them it seems like.
Your camera is clearly unsharp, when is it made?

If you want to do a test yourself, put +2 reading glasses in front of camera and check if it is getting sharper.
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dont have reading glasses. i have to believe you all that the image quality should be better than what i posted. i will return it and get another.
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Knaseren1974 Posted at 3-4 05:48
dont have reading glasses. i have to believe you all that the image quality should be better than what i posted. i will return it and get another.

Most of us here had the same experience as you, and some of us even went out and bought some cheap glasses/lenses to test it with.
That is what I sent to DJI rep center in NL when I got mine replaced, proof with +2 reading glasses (but they still could not see it because they are like..

Again when is your camera made? Not that it matter, just like to know and probably everyone else would like to know
It says on your box where serialnumber is.
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take some time get the problem resolved, full refund.   if I were to   continue guessing I am not, ther is a difference, good and bad. this isan Budget camera with issues some are spot on others are not. get a new one and see the same shots again are  to your liking

not hard to simply load your image to this site
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it says 2022/12
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That new and still that bad, strange indeed.

Like you said you will contact where you bought it, and say you want one from November or this year to try out.
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i already asked them i wanted the newest produced before i bought the camera and i also asked them if i got a focus problem if i had to get exchange through dji or the shop, and the shop answered i could just get a swap from the shop... if they said dji i would never have bought it cause i read alot about the many problems getting a faulty camera exchanged through dji.

the shop says they dont know what batch they get. so i guess they get 2022/12 and newer.
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Knaseren1974 Posted at 3-4 09:00
i already asked them i wanted the newest produced before i bought the camera and i also asked them if i got a focus problem if i had to get exchange through dji or the shop, and the shop answered i could just get a swap from the shop... if they said dji i would never have bought it cause i read alot about the many problems getting a faulty camera exchanged through dji.

the shop says they dont know what batch they get. so i guess they get 2022/12 and newer.

Great you can get a new from them, keep us updated when you get new camera.
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Fishycomics Posted at 3-4 07:12
take some time get the problem resolved, full refund.   if I were to   continue guessing I am not, ther is a difference, good and bad. this isan Budget camera with issues some are spot on others are not. get a new one and see the same shots again are  to your liking

not hard to simply load your image to this site

"...this isan Budget camera..."

I don't think you can call the Action 3 a "budget" camera. There are plenty of action cameras for $200, $100, and even under 50 bucks. How would you call those? Surely you can't put a $30 action camera into the same "budget" category as a $380 one (that's how much I paid for it). Timecode, various stabilization methods, voice recognition, 240fps, phone control, etc are not characteristics of "budget" cameras. I'd say it's more of the upper end of a good consumer grade camera or even hitting the pro mark.
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osmonauta Posted at 3-4 09:33
"...this isan Budget camera..."

I don't think you can call the Action 3 a "budget" camera. There are plenty of action cameras for $200, $100, and even under 50 bucks. How would you call those? Surely you can't put a $30 action camera into the same "budget" category as a $380 one (that's how much I paid for it). Timecode, various stabilization methods, voice recognition, 240fps, phone control, etc are not characteristics of "budget" cameras. I'd say it's more of the upper end of a good consumer grade camera or even hitting the pro mark.

its a professional camera,
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Fishycomics Posted at 3-4 10:40
its a professional camera,

It shurely is. Compared to the yi action 4k, that I considered more professional than the gopro 3 at the time it came out, it has a lot more professional features (osmonauta named some already, add external audio and build quality/toughness).
Image quality is not on par with the latest GoPro 11 for many, but I really think, this is a lot of personal preference. I like the more cinematic look of the Action 3. It could be more detailed some times, but it's far from being unusable. It's simply a design choice to some extend.
The Action 3 has its flaws, but none of them is a deal breaker for me. But I don't need super short near focus and don't use an external mic in very loud enviroments for now (the latter could hopefully be adressed with a firmware update).
Just be shure to get one with a properly adjusted lens. And some day, DJI could add some more professional adjustment possibilities in the settings - sharpness and contrast control, true manual WB not just color temperature, zebra for exposure just to name a few. As long as auto mode is good enough, maybe no one really cares, but there are some shortcomings atm like oversharpening to compensate some kind of blurriness not everyone experiences... OK for casual filming, but pita when blowing up the image for framing...
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DJ DJ Posted at 3-4 11:06
It shurely is. Compared to the yi action 4k, that I considered more professional than the gopro 3 at the time it came out, it has a lot more professional features (osmonauta named some already, add external audio and build quality/toughness).
Image quality is not on par with the latest GoPro 11 for many, but I really think, this is a lot of personal preference. I like the more cinematic look of the Action 3. It could be more detailed some times, but it's far from being unusable. It's simply a design choice to some extend.
The Action 3 has its flaws, but none of them is a deal breaker for me. But I don't need super short near focus and don't use an external mic in very loud enviroments for now (the latter could hopefully be adressed with a firmware update).

to each their own. its an Action camera.  If Insta, gopro  Young Innovators,   who Xiaomi got them going Sammy Lou awesome guy but they took the Money and ran. Yi4K was totally crisp and clear. I got two
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Are you sure it's not user error?

You said 4K, which implies video. But a 4K frame size is 3840 x 2160. Yours is 4000 x 2250, which is a 16:9 photo.
You said "No FOV". Huh? What does that mean? You have Standard or Wide. There's no "No FOV" option.


Was the camera hand-held or on tripod? The Action 3's shutter is quite hard to press down so when you take a photo you could end up with blur (albeit not as bad as this, unless you're drunk :-). I usually set the photo timer to 0.5 or 1 second to avoid blur. If the camera wasn't on tripod, can you repeat the shoot while it's on a tripod? And even on a tripod use 0.5/1 second timer for the photo.
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Hi, Knaseren1974. Thank you for your feedback. Some manufacturers currently optimize their AI algorithm and adjust imaging colors to improve the image quality of photos captured by their mobile phones. As such, some photos captured by mobile phones are better than those captured by DJI Osmo Action Series products.

Compared with mobile phones, the DJI Osmo Action Series products are mainly applicable for scenarios to free up your hands, such as cycling, diving, surfing, etc. In addition, the RockSteady stabilization technology of DJI Osmo Action Series products comes with an intelligent anti-shake algorithm, which can check camera vibration in each direction and effectively offset it. Compared to mobile phones, the view remains steady scenarios where there may be bumping or rotating.
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Looks out of focus. But oa3 is a actioncam and bad at photo. Oa1 is crazy good photo and not so handy in action. So, yes, i do my photo on mobil, or dslr, 95% and not oa3. But oa1 is a photo beast. so lol for photo you got the wrong cam.
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Fishycomics Posted at 3-4 12:50
to each their own. its an Action camera.  If Insta, gopro  Young Innovators,   who Xiaomi got them going Sammy Lou awesome guy but they took the Money and ran. Yi4K was totally crisp and clear. I got two

To bad it ended there. Had garmin virb. Still do, they did stop at the top, with ultra30, there was way better cam, compared to gopro, full of bugs.
Have ex ultra30 and 360 now im over in dji, mainly for color profile, in multiedit.
So far, oa3 is a love-hate. But it's what we got, after the best, did leave action cam marked.
Am im into no action, and just a good cam, il say, insta have the best photo/ image.
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so maybe the camera is not faulty and out of focus. i have taken 2 new pictures but dji forum dont support RAW-DNG format so i can only post the JPG and the settings i use:

exposure auto
-0.3EV
iso 100-200
WB 5600k
FOV standard
format jpg
zoom 1.0x
16:9
jpg is 4000*2250

another question: i made a short video with 5600k but i think the colors are too red/brown. how much should i lower the k? i record outside on bright day. and what should k be at when nighttime?
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hurtighansen1 Posted at 3-4 23:18
Looks out of focus. But oa3 is a actioncam and bad at photo. Oa1 is crazy good photo and not so handy in action. So, yes, i do my photo on mobil, or dslr, 95% and not oa3. But oa1 is a photo beast. so lol for photo you got the wrong cam.

photo test was just to see if camera had a focus problem. im going to use the action 3 as a video camera when im going on vacations and when im out flying drone.
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Knaseren1974 Posted at 3-5 02:51
so maybe the camera is not faulty and out of focus. i have taken 2 new pictures but dji forum dont support RAW-DNG format so i can only post the JPG and the settings i use:
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exposure auto

Ok, that's a completely different output.
Something was messed up with your first shots (Maybe you had digital zoom on or FOV narrow (also digital zoom).
That's why I asked for video stills. The Action 3 really lacks good photo processing algorithms. Even my old yi 4k is way better, not to speak of modern phones. You can only decide if the focus is right from video stills, best at 4k, low iso, stabilization off and ultrawide, as that bypasses in camera image processing.
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ok .. i want your opinion on this 4k 60fps i made today. is it okay?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-z4iknaKOM
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You either have a very bad camera or you are a very bad photographer. If this is a screen grab from a video you’re just making a nonsense of this thread.
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Fishycomics Posted at 3-5 07:06
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-z4iknaKOM

The video you posted is fine and considering you came out of the dark into very bright harsh conditions the auto did exceptionally well.
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Looks really good at 1080p on a retina screen.
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Hallmark007 Posted at 3-5 07:35
The video you posted is fine and considering you came out of the dark into very bright harsh conditions the auto did exceptionally well.

sorry you need to refer to the person who posted the video, not me, it is where   the link was not embedded by DJI properly
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Hallmark007 Posted at 3-5 07:32
You either have a very bad camera or you are a very bad photographer. If this is a screen grab from a video you’re just making a nonsense of this thread.

dont understand.... im not saying im a good photographer but do you think camera is faulty?
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Knaseren1974 Posted at 3-5 09:59
dont understand.... im not saying im a good photographer but do you think camera is faulty?

Well if the video is anything to go by you don’t have a problem.
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Knaseren1974 Posted at 3-5 05:49
ok .. i want your opinion on this 4k 60fps i made today. is it okay?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-z4iknaKOM

That looks quite ok for me. Overall sharpness is fine. I cannot say for close focus, but did not find any obvious fault.
Close focus situations were sparse and shaky so it's hard to tell, if near objects at 30cm are in focus, but that does not matter that much, if you don't film such things often. The quick glance on your face looked sharp enough for me.
I think, you are now the one to judge, if the camera fits your needs. I think, I would keep it.
(180° change of opinion ;) - you see, it's not so easy to nail a defektive one without controlled circumstances).
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if you feel you need perfect shots  not sure what to say, here is popcorn  as close up as you can

do you think my adjustment helped, THINK not

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thank you all... im keeping the camera. going to make some d cinelike videoes soon and color grade them.
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excellent just  enjoy her and not worry bout what people say, teh want way more out this   action camera
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