Not sure what the future holds for our beloved hobby. Looks to be Government ban only for now but whatever Uncle Sam does, other countries will soon follow.
https://dronedj.com/2023/12/15/us-anti-dji-and-autel-drone-blacklist-poised-to-become-law-clearing-the-way-for-nation-wide-user-bans-already-in-the-works/?fbclid=IwAR2TE8NHBwyhNEtHxOHiMiQz7GT5IaQAMa42O8EUROcLd2mo62x2TKa8YbY_aem_ASG2LXlZXMqmWEI21-PeWG9lXrHLdH8nuCvlia93AXiU9xlU6USk2kynALkQR4SRTp4

I think it's a large step to go from banning them in connection with government work to banning them for every Tom, Dick and Prince Harry member of the public flying for pleasure.

Besides, given how vocal Americans are about their 'rights', I think an attempt to ban them for 'xth ammendment' folks, might encounter some 'opposition'.

Not sure what to make of your comment...

We are not in the US and we already have a huge Chinese (Asian) group living here. We have a completely different relation with China, and they have bought entire parts of our Islands already... I think you are really worried about nothing... We already are 100% dependent on China... Australia and NZ will speak mandarin very soon...

Sean-bumble-bee Posted at 12-26 12:29
I think it's a large step to go from banning them in connection with government work to banning them for every Tom, Dick and Prince Harry member of the public flying for pleasure.

Besides, given how vocal Americans are about their 'rights', I think an attempt to ban them for 'xth ammendment' folks, might encounter some 'opposition'.

Yup, Will be really hard to ban for private use but when these law makers want to ban something, all they need to do is stop it from entering the country and it will slowly disappear. It's getting scary with drone flying, we had a news article about a drone being shot down this week in NZ. Very soon it will be come more difficult to fly.

Burt37 Posted at 12-26 12:32
Not sure what to make of your comment...

We are not in the US and we already have a huge Chinese (Asian) group living here. We have a completely different relation with China, and they have bought entire parts of our Islands already... I think you are really worried about nothing... We already are 100% dependent on China... Australia and NZ will speak mandarin very soon...

Its inevitable.

Suren Posted at 12-26 12:34
Yup, Will be really hard to ban for private use but when these law makers want to ban something, all they need to do is stop it from entering the country and it will slowly disappear. It's getting scary with drone flying, we had a news article about a drone being shot down this week in NZ. Very soon it will be come more difficult to fly.

If you are really concern about flying drones, you can always go back to these models...




Or if you really want to have some serious fun you should try one of these...

@Suren, this kind of stuff is always in the news.  I would not buy into it.  The industry is too well evolved and relevant and has strong lobby organizations now as well.

I would hope that anyone new to the hobby (lots of new flyers right around the holidays for obvious reasons) do not take this to heart and not embrace the hobby.

Burt37 Posted at 12-26 17:18
If you are really concern about flying drones, you can always go back to these models...

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LOL, RC helicopter's were the best. So much fun

TonyPHX Posted at 12-26 21:47
@Suren, this kind of stuff is always in the news.  I would not buy into it.  The industry is too well evolved and relevant and has strong lobby organizations now as well.

I would hope that anyone new to the hobby (lots of new flyers right around the holidays for obvious reasons) do not take this to heart and not embrace the hobby.

Its the US and local drone makers trying to kill a good drone market. If they could only offer up competition to Dji then maybe they would have a leg to stand on but so far, no one can touch Dji in Consumer drones.

Makes you wonder what they don't want to ban out there

This is all about one thing and one thing only. Eliminating recreational flying in the US. Elected officials are bowing to the power of the commercial drone delivery advocates.  

Sean-bumble-bee Posted at 12-26 12:29
I think it's a large step to go from banning them in connection with government work to banning them for every Tom, Dick and Prince Harry member of the public flying for pleasure.

Besides, given how vocal Americans are about their 'rights', I think an attempt to ban them for 'xth ammendment' folks, might encounter some 'opposition'.

absolutely, we stand ready to defend freedom here in america and will oppose any attempt to interfere with our rights to choose.  this isn't going to work; ultimately it will fail.  the people tell the government what to do, not the other way around.  

DowntownRDB Posted at 12-27 08:18
This is all about one thing and one thing only. Eliminating recreational flying in the US. Elected officials are bowing to the power of the commercial drone delivery advocates.

exactly.  trying to destroy the hobby and make room for commercial which isn't gaining any traction.  this type of legislation chills the consumer drone industry and is not good for any of us.

DowntownRDB Posted at 12-27 08:18
This is all about one thing and one thing only. Eliminating recreational flying in the US. Elected officials are bowing to the power of the commercial drone delivery advocates.

That's not what it's about at all.
It's the ongoing anti-China nonsense that some in your government can't get enough of.

I will believe it once TIKTOC is banned …. lol

The Saint Posted at 12-27 17:21
exactly.  trying to destroy the hobby and make room for commercial which isn't gaining any traction.  this type of legislation chills the consumer drone industry and is not good for any of us.

      

Labroides Posted at 12-27 17:51
That's not what it's about at all.
It's the ongoing anti-China nonsense that some in your government can't get enough of.

It could well be that in addition to what I previously stated.  Not being local you haven't observed the power that the commercial delivery drone advocates have.  They are super well funded and their money gets lots of support from members of Congress.   

DowntownRDB Posted at 12-28 09:07
It could well be that in addition to what I previously stated.  Not being local you haven't observed the power that the commercial delivery drone advocates have.  They are super well funded and their money gets lots of support from members of Congress.

I can see it as a check box option on the check out on the amazon shopping cart.

Check here if you want your packages delivered by drone in 15 minutes or less.

DowntownRDB Posted at 12-28 09:07
It could well be that in addition to what I previously stated.  Not being local you haven't observed the power that the commercial delivery drone advocates have.  They are super well funded and their money gets lots of support from members of Congress.

There are moves to prevent DJI drones being used by government departments and replace them with US made drones.
And somehow you think this is to remove recreational drones from the skies?
Can't you see how this explanation is completely illogical?

It's anti-Chinese sentiment and fears being exploited by lobbyists from Skydio etc.
Despite the paranoia, no-one is doing anything to ground your drones (just like no-one is coming to take away your guns).

Ms Ivy Posted at 12-28 16:11
I can see it as a check box option on the check out on the amazon shopping cart.

Check here if you want your packages delivered by drone in 15 minutes or less.

No doubt drone deliveries will expand exponentially in the near future.  

Labroides Posted at 12-28 16:57
There are moves to prevent DJI drones being used by government departments and replace them with US made drones.
And somehow you think this is to remove recreational drones from the skies?
Can't you see how this explanation is completely illogical?

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I'll just leave it at that.  

DowntownRDB Posted at 12-29 08:49
Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I'll just leave it at that.

But it helps when your opinion is supported by logic and facts rather than unreal fantasy.

Labroides Posted at 12-29 14:35
But it helps when your opinion is upported by logic and facts rather than unreal fantasy.

But it's not supported by facts. Not to mention that MANY of our politicians have stated, ON THE RECORD, that they are, in deed, coming for our guns!!! Just like Australia came and took yours!!!

The Saint Posted at 12-27 17:19
absolutely, we stand ready to defend freedom here in america and will oppose any attempt to interfere with our rights to choose.  this isn't going to work; ultimately it will fail.  the people tell the government what to do, not the other way around.

It is a bit hard to understand why you need to defend your freedom in the first place, if it is the people that tell the government and not the other way around...

So far this issue has affected the US, India and Israel...

While the US and Israel are dealing only with commercial issue, India on the other hand has gone the Full Monty and imposed a full ban...

So far, the rest of the world has had no need to defend their "freedom"...

If my elected government decides to ban DJI drone from the Commercial arena, in the end it boils down to DJI poor policies to not been able to be transparent with their business...

If you have been paying attention, it has happened to Chinese companies a lot in the past decade..

Surely there are also economic reasons behind, but if DJI didn't give the US the chance to complain in the first place, perhaps the US would have taken a different approach to this issue...

Right here in this forum, some of us are having the same problem...

Several times were asked why DJI controller need to be logged in to function, and never once the true reason was stated...

Several times were asked why there is no detailed changelog for all the firmware and once again, your guess is as good as mine...

DJI record, so far, doesn't really inspire confidence, so forgive me if I believe that most Government agencies are right to be concerned with the bigger picture...

Mobilehomer Posted at 12-29 15:09
But it's not supported by facts. Not to mention that MANY of our politicians have stated, ON THE RECORD, that they are, in deed, coming for our guns!!! Just like Australia came and took yours!!!

But it's not supported by facts.
How would removing DJI drones from government work and replacing them with US made drones, have anything to do with eliminating recreational drones?
What's the link that I'm not seeing?

But I'm seeing plenty to link proposed DJi bans for government work with lobbying by Skydio.
Not to mention that MANY of our politicians have stated, ON THE RECORD, that they are, in deed, coming for our guns!!!
Even if that's true, it's never happened.
But your politicians are too scared of the gun lobby (or owned by them) to ever do such a thing.

Just like Australia came and took yours!!!
What you don't understand is that our government had the the support of an overwhelming majority of the Australian population.

Mobilehomer Posted at 12-29 15:09
But it's not supported by facts. Not to mention that MANY of our politicians have stated, ON THE RECORD, that they are, in deed, coming for our guns!!! Just like Australia came and took yours!!!

There is a very funny video going around the Internet about the guns...

Bottom line is that since 1996 our government has made our country safer, and it is because we asked for, no one forced anyone to do anything...

Proof of the fact is that since 1996, Port Arthur killing record still stand today...

How many killing sprees you had in the US since 1996...

Here, I found it... It is very funny...

Mobilehomer Posted at 12-29 15:09
But it's not supported by facts. Not to mention that MANY of our politicians have stated, ON THE RECORD, that they are, in deed, coming for our guns!!! Just like Australia came and took yours!!!

For sure, the struggle is real.  Drones haven't seen anything yet; just wait.  

Burt37 Posted at 12-29 16:48
There is a very funny video going around the Internet about the guns...

Bottom line is that since 1996 our government has made our country safer, and it is because we asked for, no one forced anyone to do anything...

yeah for sure, that's super funny.  im in that 20% that laughed, this is hilarious.  i don't agree with it but i can see the frustration from some way back then.  things have changed tremendously over the years and alot of what he jokes about doesn't really apply any longer; however, no need to get into the details.

The Saint Posted at 12-29 20:59
yeah for sure, that's super funny.  im in that 20% that laughed, this is hilarious.  i don't agree with it but i can see the frustration from some way back then.  things have changed tremendously over the years and alot of what he jokes about doesn't really apply any longer; however, no need to get into the details.

"Things have changed tremendously over the years"

Yeah right...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41488081

I see what you mean...

Burt37 Posted at 12-29 21:25
"Things have changed tremendously over the years"

Yeah right...

No i meant with the NRA (no longer in charge) and gun laws being so strict (they are much less strict in many more places today) and we have several Supreme Court ruling now on our side (SCOTUS make-up is much different today).

The Saint Posted at 12-30 09:12
No i meant with the NRA (no longer in charge) and gun laws being so strict (they are much less strict in many more places today) and we have several Supreme Court ruling now on our side (SCOTUS make-up is much different today).

That maybe so, but it seems that the end result hasn't changed a single bit. According to statistics, It is actually getting worse every year...

Burt37 Posted at 12-29 21:25
"Things have changed tremendously over the years"

Yeah right...

And yet, the liberals STILL blame and punish the INNOCENT gun ownership instead of the CRIMINAL!!! Try getting your news from a less biased source. The BBC equates to the left leaning MSM in the USA. There ARE reliable, non-biased outlets, NOT Fox, either!!!

Mobilehomer Posted at 12-30 14:53
And yet, the liberals STILL blame and punish the INNOCENT gun ownership instead of the CRIMINAL!!! Try getting your news from a less biased source. The BBC equates to the left leaning MSM in the USA. There ARE reliable, non-biased outlets, NOT Fox, either!!!

So why didn't you post a link to one of those "reliable" sources...

No much point in telling people that their choice of source is wrong and then provide no alternative...

Burt37 Posted at 12-30 18:35
So why didn't you post a link to one of those "reliable" sources...

No much point in telling people that their choice of source is wrong and then provide no alternative...

No, I let YOU find it.

Mobilehomer Posted at 12-30 14:53
And yet, the liberals STILL blame and punish the INNOCENT gun ownership instead of the CRIMINAL!!! Try getting your news from a less biased source. The BBC equates to the left leaning MSM in the USA. There ARE reliable, non-biased outlets, NOT Fox, either!!!

And yet, the liberals STILL blame and punish the INNOCENT gun ownership
Those poor, innocent gun owner victims.
How are they being punished by those terrible liberals?

Mobilehomer Posted at 12-30 18:45
No, I let YOU find it.

I already have, BBC... But thank YOU for your invaluable contribution to this thread....

Labroides Posted at 2023-12-28 16:57
There are moves to prevent DJI drones being used by government departments and replace them with US made drones.
And somehow you think this is to remove recreational drones from the skies?
Can't you see how this explanation is completely illogical?

Biden signed it into law on 12/23/23.Dji and also Autel drones.
This signing has nothing to do with recreational flying.
Much more info on this matter can be found on Dronexl.

The drone laws change alot in the USA from state by state, and a lot of states starting in 2024 like North Carolina are making you register a commercial drone & get a  license with the state https://www.ncdot.gov/divisions/ ... cial-operators.asp along with your federal p107.  

I live in Tennessee  But I fly & work alot in Virginia and North Carolina along with Kentucky and Georgia,   so having to stay current with every states regulations has proven challenging. to say the least.

Luckily so far not much has changed for the recreational flyer .  the only thing required for recreational flyers in most states is a TRUST license and a FAA registration & RID if your drone weights over the 249 grams.  Plus there has been lots of new drones law changes in 2024 , I recommend checking your states laws in the US.

Mobilehomer Posted at 2023-12-30 14:53
And yet, the liberals STILL blame and punish the INNOCENT gun ownership instead of the CRIMINAL!!! Try getting your news from a less biased source. The BBC equates to the left leaning MSM in the USA. There ARE reliable, non-biased outlets, NOT Fox, either!!!

That’s complete BS and could only be written by a numpthy who can’t face turning of fat hannity and all the other stooges at the right wing Faux news..

Hallmark007 Posted at 1-8 08:00
That’s complete BS and could only be written by a numpthy who can’t face turning of fat hannity and all the other stooges at the right wing Faux news..

No, you know absolutely ZERO about the subject. I LIVE here. I see ALL the news and stories. I see ALL opinions. I make up my own mind. By the way, I do NOT watch Fox or any other MSM. They are ALL too biased.