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Just editing video now for motorcycle ride this morning.

The lens flare is not so good.


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9-26 04:52
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Over time I learned to get used to it, the story is told. and they will thank you for that
9-26 05:27
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Fishycomics Posted at 9-26 05:27
Over time I learned to get used to it, the story is told. and they will thank you for that

Do you think this though is worse than the OA4 ?
9-26 05:28
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The standard answer is that all lenses have reflections caused by the glass and it’s normal! However, I think they have a trumpet player in DJI.
9-26 05:29
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Iancraig10 Posted at 9-26 05:29
The standard answer is that all lenses have refelections caused by the glass and it’s normal! However, I think they have a trumpet player in DJI.



at one point it had a T head on it
9-26 05:30
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T for trumpet!
9-26 05:31
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yeah, very ugly.
even my OA3 flare looks better (which i still hate)
my OA1 is perfect and i like the narrow fov too
9-26 05:31
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In the sun Posted at 9-26 05:28
Do you think this though is worse than the OA4 ?

Personal Opinion:  No  looks the same to me what I feel was  different is the Pocket three  three ring circles  , that the Action 3, 4, and 5 do not have. If it really bothers all then DJI has to change the  lens and sensor housing out for a new one older style and will not happen
9-26 05:40
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Lens flares are always going to be there in almost all lenses, yes very expensive lenses can manage flare better than others. Lens flares in video can be a feature of shooting or can be controlled with lens hoods or your hand or just not shooting straight into the sun. Different lenses will give different flares action cameras have similar lenses so you get similar flares. It would be nice if some third party anamorphic or tele lenses were to become available certainly anamorphic lenses can create some really nice flaring . But I’m afraid flaring on this lens will be up to the user to control. Good luck.
9-26 05:46
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Pocket three  just a light in hand,  but like said angled you will see it  really showing but direct to the Sun not as much if asked. same goes for the Action camera.  For me   its 10-2 o'cock  anglesglad I do not use an anomorphic lens  Lol



9-26 05:52
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Almost any lens can suffer from lens flare and a wide angle lens like the ones normally used in action cameras are more prone to it. You will need to add a hood if you want to reduce lens flare. The shape is because of the lens used, if you take a look at it through the protector you will see how this flare shape is reflected there.
9-26 07:09
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peloncr Posted at 9-26 07:09
Almost any lens can suffer from lens flare and a wide angle lens like the ones normally used in action cameras are more prone to it. You will need to add a hood if you want to reduce lens flare. The shape is because of the lens used, if you take a look at it through the protector you will see how this flare shape is reflected there.

It’s not the fact that we get flare. It’s the shape of the flare that’s bothering people. Ruins video in sunny conditions for people on bikes, skis, cars, up mountains, whatever. Turn a corner and you get a trumpet drawn down from the top left or right of the screen. Looks awful.

Try shading that with your hands on skis. (Action camera?)

Maybe taking the front cover off and putting on a polariser might help?



9-26 08:35
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peloncr Posted at 9-26 07:09
Almost any lens can suffer from lens flare and a wide angle lens like the ones normally used in action cameras are more prone to it. You will need to add a hood if you want to reduce lens flare. The shape is because of the lens used, if you take a look at it through the protector you will see how this flare shape is reflected there.

The whining is about the style of the flare no manufacture sets out a lens to create different flares they come as part of that lens full stop , better glass superior glass they change the look of flares and how much flare you get. If you want flares in your video or don’t want flares you the photographer are in control, if you want less flare in photos or videos or lighter flares then you need a camera with better dynamic range and glass that you will pay a heck of a lot more than $400 for, but even then you cannot buy into a camera that will give you a specific flare as depending on the light it will never be exactly the same. And this is the same for lenses like anamorphic that cause different reactions to flares and light. It’s impossible to cut flares from a lens without changing the lens. But as you say you can cut out the light by using a lens cap or anything else that will stop the light reflecting on the lens.
9-26 10:31
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In the sun Posted at 9-26 05:28
Do you think this though is worse than the OA4 ?

It’s exactly the same as on the Action 4. We actually got sun today between showers so I took it out of its box and had a look!

Taking the cover off and putting a polariser on can help if the filter has reasonable coatings so I might start a new habit…..

My Ace Pro and GoPro don’t give these ‘trumpets’ but a more normal looking set of flares or circles. The Action is in a class of its own.
9-26 10:48
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Iancraig10 Posted at 9-26 10:48
It’s exactly the same as on the Action 4. We actually got sun today between showers so I took it out of its box and had a look!

Taking the cover off and putting a polariser on can help if the filter has reasonable coatings so I might start a new habit…..

ok, good feedback, i will need to look at polariser
9-26 10:50
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In the sun Posted at 9-26 10:50
ok, good feedback, i will need to look at polariser

Thank you. It’s annoying because with video, you’re moving the camera around and it suddenly appears if the sun gets into the crucial place. Or it suddenly comes out from behind clouds. A bit annoying with an action cam if you're up a mountain or something.

So I didn’t get to try it extensively today because the weather is odd here. I will though when we actually get some decent weather. Sometimes the coating on the filter can help. Or even taking the front cover right off. I know some don’t like the idea of taking the cover off so maybe a filter might be a better idea.
9-26 10:54
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Iancraig10 Posted at 9-26 10:54
Thank you. It’s annoying because with video, you’re moving the camera around and it suddenly appears if the sun gets into the crucial place. Or it suddenly comes out from behind clouds. A bit annoying with an action cam if you're up a mountain or something.

So I didn’t get to try it extensively today because the weather is odd here. I will though when we actually get some decent weather. Sometimes the coating on the filter can help. Or even taking the front cover right off. I know some don’t like the idea of taking the cover off so maybe a filter might be a better idea.

yes, i am one of these that dont like taking lens off.

especially since i use camera in water as well so dont really want to disturb the seal on it.

as i am riding a motorbike the road twists and turns as i go along.
9-26 10:57
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In the sun Posted at 9-26 10:57
yes, i am one of these that dont like taking lens off.

especially since i use camera in water as well so dont really want to disturb the seal on it.

That’s what I was thinking about. Can you imagine having to shield or 'control' it while driving your bike? There is no real shade for it because it’s such a wide lens. The one that came with the 4 was too shallow to stop anything and anything bigger, the edges show.

Wait though and I’ll take a long walk in the sun with a polariser to see if that gets it. I have one of those new battery handles to try so I’m waiting for an excuse ……

9-26 11:03
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Iancraig10 Posted at 9-26 11:03
That’s what I was thinking about. Can you imagine having to shield it while driving your bike? There is no real shade for it because it’s such a wide lens. The one that came with the 4 was too shallow to stop anything and any bigger and the edges show.

Wait though and I’ll take a long walk in the sun with a polariser to see if that gets it. I have one of those new battery handles to try so I’m waiting for an excuse ……

Look forward to video
9-26 11:06
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I was looking at the 3-D hood but  rather just deal with it


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9-26 12:04
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Fishycomics Posted at 9-26 12:04
I was looking at the 3-D hood but  rather just deal with it

If it’s a similar depth to the DJI one which is a bit ineffective, which is probably why one wasn’t supplied with the Action 5.

We all might have to video with one hand and shade it with the other. Action users will be spotted all over the world, shading their cameras! Haha……
9-26 12:11
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Iancraig10 Posted at 9-26 12:11
If it’s a similar depth to the DJI one, it is a bit ineffective, which is probably why one wasn’t supplied with the Action 5.

We all might have to video with one hand and shade it with the other. Action users will be spotted all over the world, shading their cameras! Haha……

I tried using the hood from the oa4 and sticking an nd filter on the front made little if any difference as did running without, like Fish I’ll just live with & work around.
9-26 12:42
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BaynhamPhoto Posted at 9-26 12:42
I tried using the hood from the oa4 and sticking an nd filter on the front made little if any difference as did running without, like Fish I’ll just live with & work around.

That’s a shame. I’ll have a go with mine if we get some sun. I was hoping the coating on the filter might calm it a bit.

Looks like a one handed shading video trick then. We’ll be spotting Action users at large distance like birdwatchers, shielding their cameras from the sun!
9-26 12:50
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Iancraig10 Posted at 9-26 12:50
That’s a shame. I’ll have a go with mine if we get some sun. I was hoping the coating on the filter might calm it a bit.

Looks like a one handed shading video trick then. We’ll be spotting Action users at large distance like birdwatchers, shielding their cameras from the sun!

That’s  why BMW gave me cruise control on the bike!  Maybe what we need is barn doors on the cage…
9-26 13:04
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In the sun Posted at 9-26 10:50
ok, good feedback, i will need to look at polariser

Polarizers will make no difference with sun flares if you are pointing your camera into the sun polarization does not work, it only works at 90 degrees to the sun or with the sun directly behind you, so pointless using  polarization to stop sun flares. It’s just bad information.
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BaynhamPhoto Posted at 9-26 13:04
That’s  why BMW gave me cruise control on the bike!  Maybe what we need is barn doors on the cage…

What, you can let go? Two handed shielding? That’s a first….
9-26 13:17
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Hallmark007 Posted at 9-26 13:14
Polarizers will make no difference with sun flares if you are pointing your camera into the sun polarization does not work, it only works at 90 degrees to the sun or with the sun directly behind you, so pointless using  polarization to stop sun flares. It’s just bad information.

Oh, that’s a shame. Maybe I won’t bother then.
9-26 13:25
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Iancraig10 Posted at 9-26 12:11
If it’s a similar depth to the DJI one, it is a bit ineffective, which is probably why one wasn’t supplied with the Action 5.

We all might have to video with one hand and shade it with the other. Action users will be spotted all over the world, shading their cameras! Haha……

gonna maybe just  take the  paper rolls or make my own type funnel and give a whirl, then ride hands free covering the lens I  be missing those awesome wor of the worlds    captures
9-26 14:38
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Good luck with a Hood,  and  more or less  until one can officially find a M12 4K lens. DJI claims their  lenses are only stocked  by DI that fits ,
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Fishycomics Posted at 9-26 12:04
I was looking at the 3-D hood but  rather just deal with it

i will print this later, thanks
9-26 20:56
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Hi there, thank you for reaching out and we understand your concerns. When shooting in scenes with strong light sources, for example, shooting footage at sites with scattered light sources at night, shooting indoor with strong lighting, or shooting in strong sunlight, optical refraction and reflection may appear due to the lens structure and transparency. As a result, you may see "glare" in the screen or captured images. This is a common optical phenomenon, so please rest assured to use your camera.

Thank you for your understanding.
9-27 00:47
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In the sun Posted at 9-26 20:56
i will print this later, thanks

I  took a  dixie cup and I  placed on the  lens and I cut down to exactly off screen the   diameter showing,
1. problem was it did  NOTHING
2 if you shook the camera t he EIS  pushed the  rim in view. so a lil more trimming.
3  shot by a street light night time for me FAILED!!!!

love to hear what it looks like in the Sun

I feel that the sides are not the issue but say 10-2 are so maybe I will retry later

wish I had a 3d printer Lol    keep us posted
9-27 03:00
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DJI Natalia Posted at 9-27 00:47
Hi there, thank you for reaching out and we understand your concerns. When shooting in scenes with strong light sources, for example, shooting footage at sites with scattered light sources at night, shooting indoor with strong lighting, or shooting in strong sunlight, optical refraction and reflection may appear due to the lens structure and transparency. As a result, you may see "glare" in the screen or captured images. This is a common optical phenomenon, so please rest assured to use your camera.

Thank you for your understanding.

we  requested a new lens, from the Action 1 to be reinstated and we  are told the    cone, speaker shape flares are not of an issue, Look at your gopro and let us KNOW  and get a Action 6 out with the proper one we know the Action 3 wasa DUD and never recalled
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Fishycomics Posted at 9-27 03:00
I  took a  dixie cup and I  placed on the  lens and I cut down to exactly off screen the   diameter showing,
1. problem was it did  NOTHING
2 if you shook the camera t he EIS  pushed the  rim in view. so a lil more trimming.

I printed it but as it was ment for OA4 it was too small.

I just scaled it and reprinting now.
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In the sun Posted at 9-27 03:30
I printed it but as it was ment for OA4 it was too small.

I just scaled it and reprinting now.

sorry bout that but still worth a shot
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its converting but not the 3-d print I had fun making a  fool of myself DJI!

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Fishycomics Posted at 9-27 03:37
sorry bout that but still worth a shot

that is not a problem, I was not sure if it would fit or not.

its a short print so no worries.

just rescaled again and printing
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In the sun Posted at 9-27 03:30
I printed it but as it was ment for OA4 it was too small.

I just scaled it and reprinting now.

here it is


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Fishycomics Posted at 9-27 03:37
its converting but not the 3-d print I had fun making a  fool of myself DJI!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_Hi2b_LAJ0

That made me smile. Thanks Fish!
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