I sent in my brand new Inspire V2 which was DOA. Wobbly arms, tilted horizon, old version. I insisted to receive the new version, T601.

After lots of emailing back and forth, I got this answer:

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First of all, we don’t have the new model T601 with FCC ID 1015.

Inspire have only 3 models:

Inspire 1

Inspire 1 V2

Inspire Pro


The standard motors for the Inspire are 3510 T

those are new model motors on the Inspire Pro 3510 H



Best Regards
DJI support EU

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See for yourself.

Just unbelievable !

Hmm, that is not good. I would suggest PMing one of the DJI representatives here such as DJI-Ken or DJI-Tim, DJI-Chachi, etc.
Did you buy direct from DJI or from a dealer?


Please keep us updated.

I spoke with a DJI USA-LA technician and he confirmed that there are TWO different FCC numbers. A true V2 has FCC # ending in 1510.

I looked at some Inspire1 V2 Pro's here and they are all T600.

any updates?

http://forum.dji.com/thread-37360-1-1.html  Here they say it is solved...!?!?!

We do have inspire V 2.0 T601 1510!   before inspire 1 v2.0 had model number of T600 they are the same. And both have 3510H motorsRight now you have absolutely correct aircraft with correct model number.

Tim, I am most definitely NOT trying to be be rude..... But that is a political spin on the "truth". The fact is very black and white, when you make the decision to purchase a new (more expensive) V2, you should get EVERYTHING the marketing material says about the V2. Not an older frame and radio that has been upgraded with new motors and a new mounting plate. I don't understand why we keep twisting something so very basic. If you go buy a Inspire 1 V2, it should have a T601 model number and 1510 FCC sticker with the appropriate electronics installed. I am not trying to be one of "those" forum guys..... And we all know who they are. I am just calling BS. Be blessed, but most of all just be honest.

DJI-Tim Posted at 2016-1-25 02:48
We do have inspire V 2.0 T601 1510!   before inspire 1 v2.0 had model number of T600 they are the sa ...

Tim

Are these new version V2 from the DJI store shipping from China? I am assuming the 10 year sale is the newest V2.0 Inspire correct?

Rich

BWAHAA!  "you should get EVERYTHING the marketing material says"
Those of us who bought the original version are still waiting on this! - Don't hold your breath dude.

But there is seriously bugger all difference between all of them - just fly the damned thing and enjoy yourself.

RichJ53 Posted at 2016-1-26 10:46
Tim

Are these new version V2 from the DJI store shipping from China? I am assuming the 10 year sa ...

Probably yes. However there is only label difference between V2 T600 and T601. Hardware, firmware and software are the same...

DJI-Tim Posted at 2016-1-25 19:10
Probably yes. However there is only label difference between V2 T600 and T601. Hardware, firmware  ...

Thanks Tim

Not sure if I am going for a second Inspire 1 for a back up... just been thinking about it lately. Pretty darn happy with my V1 aircraft and the only thing I have had trouble with is two batteries....

Rich

DJI-Tim Posted at 2016-1-25 22:10
Probably yes. However there is only label difference between V2 T600 and T601. Hardware, firmware  ...

So Tim, the RC's that are labeled FCC1410 and FCC1510 are the same?! Agreed the aircraft can be updated to have the same parts.

Gootch Posted at 2016-1-26 20:56
So Tim, the RC's that are labeled FCC1410 and FCC1510 are the same?! Agreed the aircraft can be up ...

For T600 FCC ID is still WM6101410 for T601 FCC ID is WM6101510

Here's the label from mine. I bought this through the 10 year anniversary sale from a DJI dealer in San Jose CA.

DJI-Tim Posted at 2016-1-26 04:10
Probably yes. However there is only label difference between V2 T600 and T601. Hardware, firmware  ...

I would really like someone neutral to make a range test of both to find out if they are just labeled wrong T600 (FCC6101410) and in reality are T601 (FCC 6101510) or if they are labeled correctly but then the 5 dbm more power output regarding to FCC documents MUST physically give the T601 almost DOUBLE RANGE.

Its physics:  6dB of increased system gain is necessary to double the transmission distance in typical RF line of sight conditions.

So if there is no difference between T600 and T601 then they are labeled wrong, if they are labeled correctly there MUST be a difference.

Gootch Posted at 2016-1-26 04:50
Tim, I am most definitely NOT trying to be be rude..... But that is a political spin on the "truth". ...

Not true. a T600 and T601 are the same. Everyone is saying they want the T601. There is no difference.
If both are on the latest firmware you will see zero difference in range.

But we agree that a model D V1 can easily become a T601 by changing motors and components, and the X5 gimbal bracket? OK, the A/C on a T600 V2 and a T601 V2 leaving DJI are the same. We can agree on that point, did the T600 start out as a V2... who cares. The real issue is the radio (R/C) isn't it...? According to specs, the FCC stamped 1510 has a higher dB radio "output".... correct? Please answer yes or no, thanks Tim.

RichJ53 Posted at 2016-1-26 10:46
Tim

Are these new version V2 from the DJI store shipping from China? I am assuming the 10 year sa ...

If you live in the US, Mexico, or Canada, all your orders from DJI will ship from the US warehouse. I jusr walked through the warehouse and see hundreds if Inspire V2's but the box does not say if it's a T600 or 601. But again, They are the same.

Farnk666 Posted at 2016-1-26 10:53
BWAHAA!  "you should get EVERYTHING the marketing material says"
Those of us who bought the original ...

Everything in the marketing material is the same for T600 or T601.

RichJ53 Posted at 2016-1-26 11:56
Thanks Tim

Not sure if I am going for a second Inspire 1 for a back up... just been thinking abou ...

Rich, if you get a T600 or T601, update the firmware and I promise you there is no difference.

DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-1-28 05:30
Everything in the marketing material is the same for T600 or T601.

Hi Ken,

I was referring to the marketing promises made re groundstation and nav functions.
These were made at Launch and in the email sent to owners mid last year.
I.e. 100 waypoints, payload tasking, map based flight planning - all the stuff we didn't get.

As to this particular conversation, I don't see that there is any appreciable 'real world' difference beyond a model number or two. We have bigger issues to deal with as Inspire owners.

Farnk666 Posted at 2016-1-28 07:53
Hi Ken,

I was referring to the marketing promises made re groundstation and nav functions.

Ok, no problem. I was just staying on topic of what the OP was talking about.

DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-1-27 13:31
Rich, if you get a T600 or T601, update the firmware and I promise you there is no difference.

Thanks Ken
I understand what you are saying, yet it is strange these are the same. If I could have a choice, I would prefer that I get the T601 because all the talk about the remote signal increase.  At this point, I have not decided to get another Inspire as a back up

Rich

DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-1-27 13:29
If you live in the US, Mexico, or Canada, all your orders from DJI will ship from the US warehouse. ...

Ken

When I got my P3P on black Friday sale, it came from China...


Rich

RichJ53 Posted at 2016-1-28 13:53
Ken

When I got my P3P on black Friday sale, it came from China...

That's probably because you pre ordered it or it was out of stock in the US warehouse.
Most everything is now in stock in the US warehouse and would ship form there to US, Mexico, and Canada.

RichJ53 Posted at 2016-1-28 13:51
Thanks Ken
I understand what you are saying, yet it is strange these are the same. If I could have ...

A lot of people got of the bandwagon of needing the 601 v/s the 600 because someone on the internet said so. I saw a YouTube video of a guy unboxing his and telling everyone that if they got a T600 then you were ripped off and return it. (I know where he lives ) Just kidding.
I promise you, if you have both the 600 and 601 and they are on the latest firmware then there is ZERO difference (except for a sticker).

DJI-Ken Posted at 2016-1-27 22:18
Not true. a T600 and T601 are the same. Everyone is saying they want the T601. There is no differe ...

Can you please explain how this is accomplished? How does the latest firmware affect range? How does it compensate the 5dbm more power output of FCC 6101510?

Gootch Posted at 2016-1-25 12:50
Tim, I am most definitely NOT trying to be be rude..... But that is a political spin on the "truth". ...

Why would DJI be truthful about this? They flat out lied about the Inspire1. There were several complaints about it, they fell on deaf ears. They have your money and that's all that matters to them it seems.

I am in here a bit late, but my impression was that both units put out 20dBm EIRP, which in Watt speak is 100mW again taking antenna gain into account.
This figure could be controlled via firmware to comply with local laws and regulations etc, and also by increasing antenna gain to extend range......
My Inspires are V1's but soon as the X5R is out I will get the latest version, at which time I will measure the power output at both ends, air and ground to see the actual figures.

Ok, so here is where there is a BIG misconception on the issue. HERE IS A PARTIALLY COMPLETE EXPLANATION!!!The issue is DJI's lack of information, but this is so that it doesn't confuse the layman. Unfortunately, the confusion is even worse because they aren't explaining it correctly to anyone or making it clear. I will try to explain this to you all:

First of all: PLEASE NOTE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FCC AND CE
CE means "Conformité Europeene" which means European Conformity in french and is set by the EU commission (this includes variants)
FCC means "Federal Communications Commission" which essentially is the Conformity commission for the USA when it comes to communications

The DJI website clearly states that the FCC compliance allows 5km range vs the CE compliance only allowing 3.5km. This clearly prooves there is a difference in the signal output power due to regulations set by either the FCC or CE.

This is in fact due to the OUTPUT POWER restrictions in Europe (shown in dBm or mW) - AKA EIRP (effective isotropically radiated power)

Basically the T601 IS ILLEGAL IN EUROPEAN STANDARDS.



Why, you say?
Well it's quite simple actually. In EUROPE, we are not allowed by law to have a 2.4Ghz frequency with the output power higher than 20dBm (aka 100mw).

From what I hear, there are currently 2, or lets say 3 variances in Inspire 1 models out there at the minute:

INSPIRE 1 2.0 & PRO
- T600
Operates 20dBm @ 2.4 Ghz (20dBm = 100mw)
- T600-D (I've heard of it but never seen it)
Operates 24dBm @ 2.4 Ghz (24dBm = 250mw)
- T601
Operates 30dBm @ 2.4 Ghz (30dBm = 1000mw)

EUROPEAN LIMIT IS 20dBm or 100mw


Oh wait... so because the T600 is outputing 20dBm or 100mw, this means it's on the LEGAL LIMIT in EUROPE.


The T601 is 30dBm or 1000mw which is ILLEGAL in Europe, therefore, it is not sold in the DJI Europe zone (and possibly Canada too).


This means that DJI Europe are 100% correct when they say that there are no such thing as the T601 in the European Market.
Ask the same question to DJI USA and you may get a different answer.


I suspect that the CE1313 rating on the T601 sticker may indicate that if a US citizens comes to europe, it may conform when arriving in the EU. Don't hold my word for that as I can't confirm any of this - I do find it odd that CE1313 is on there, perhaps this isn't a real sticker or perhaps it means something else. Either way the T601 can't be flown in Europe.


Anywho, to all you Europeans freaking out because you think you are getting a bad deal, please all take a deep breath. DJI are only conforming to the rules our governments have agreed to restrict us with. All is good, DJI Europe are correct and you aren't loosing out on anything because we are already running on the fringe of legalities.


FUN FACT: the higher the EIRP the less flight time you get. So please all enjoy your extra minute or two in the sky and don't let it get to you.



UPDATE: You can find the difference between the T600 and T601 (Or should I say the WD6101410 vs the WD6101510)
Direct PDF Link
https://fccid.io/pdf.php?id=2432538

The FCC Compliance website with all information relating to the Inspire 1 compliance test:
https://fccid.io/SS3-WM6101410

luke.thedronefa Posted at 2016-2-11 07:37
Ok, so here is where there is a BIG misconception on the issue. HERE IS A PARTIALLY COMPLETE EXPLANA ...

My God, somebody finally get it right! Thank you Luke ... I've got my Inspire 1 Pro from local Canadian dealer and it is T600/1410 for the reason explained above, and I'm not complaining so far. The idea behind RC power limitation in the most of civilized countries is actually quite simple: to minimize radio interferences, at least between fellow RC geeks in proximity. DJI clearly advises to avoid flying their birds in flock ...

Why then US pilots are more privileged, if so at all? Because it is so big country and chances to mess with somebody's else flying are slim? Then why Canadians are not? I can drive here for hours and see no soul ... Or - allow me for a little more of absurdity - are the USA regulations less civilized? Less polite? More arrogant? Whoa! ...

Luke you are also only partially right.  Our RC units T600 and T601 adjust their output based on the location that they are being used.  If you are in the EU and your GPS sees that, the output is reduced to the CE requirement.  If you are in an area where the higher output is allowed, that is what you get.  Take the tin hats off and go fly.  I have flown more than 2km.  I really have no desire to fly further.  If the craft can do 3.5 or 5km, that is great but my guess is that most users will never even experiment with those distances.  Some have stated, the distance is not the issue, it is the penetration power in areas of high interference.  That again will probably not become a factor for most users.  Unfortunately our CE users cannot change channels or transmission rate.  In my opinion that it s greater factor than the output.  

Another thing to consider is... My longest flight to date has been around 5.6km (not distance from me but total flight path) and I ran the battery down to my usual 30%. If you want to fly 5km away then you're looking at a 10km round trip. Unless you're doing something really special with the battery, I don't see how that's really feasible - correct me if I'm wrong. Even going 3.5km out would mean a 7km round trip.

Tahoe_Ed Posted at 2016-2-12 09:47
Luke you are also only partially right.  Our RC units T600 and T601 adjust their output based on the ...

I have flown a few long range test flights, it was fun but if you fly long range on a steady basis your asking for trouble. Personally i dont care if it a 600 or 601 just as long as fly's good.

.255 vs. .932 mw  FCC filing of Inspire 1.V2 T601